F2Pool「魚池」🐟

[rockyforever]

At what percentage of the hashrate will F2Pool stop accepting new users? 30% is already highly critical.

If you care even a little bit about bitcoin, you would stop mining here and at Antpool.

please ELI5. I can't through all these posts and have the stuff is WAYYY over my head.

[macbook-air]

Some of you do not even know whether version is included in header but believe so called "SPV" mining is bad. Isn't it ridiculous?

[macbook-air]

More of my posts deleted by macbook-air. When scared to discuss the truth, hide it. Right macbook?

macbook-air is deleting all of the posts he doesn't like now, so no worries you will be able to see what they want you to see.
Very Sad the truth must be hidden from the miners of F2pool.
The threats, lies, mafioso styles of intimidation.

I wish the F2pool miners the best and only hope you get out before the Denial of service threats made by F2pool against the bitcoin miners don't end up causing more damage.

Good luck my mining brethren. We all need it.

Karma is good to those who are good to Karma.

Support Karma by doing good things for bitcoin and I wish you all the best.

This thread is for user support, see the first post. You post was not asking support from me but bashing me and our pool for no valid reason. You are always free to post whatever in your own thread.

[macbook-air]

I asked for a reasonable discussion regarding the way your pool operates and the actions it takes along with the claims you make.
I certainly bashed those actions and denied your claims regarding them.

If that doesn't fall under support I don't know what does.

Again you have a problem with the truth. It seems your problems telling the truth appear daily.

I also asked to discuss these things in a meetup.

Besides, you can continue to silence me here, but people are already on to your ways, your threats, and your lies.

Please Sir, do explain the finer details regarding the SPV mining and zero transaction blocks. How do those specific items help the network as I would not want to mine anywhere which wasn't helping all miners, especially at the pool where I mine.

What is your opinion of all pools adopting these mining methods? Would bitcoin be more secure if this occurred? Or, how soon would people tire of not having transactions processed correctly?

 I may mine here if you can help me understand how the pool works without harming the network. I'd say such deals directly with pool support, wouldn't you?

I want to make a clarification that I am more than happy to explain to the community for how our pool works. But you have to be nice and polite. While words like “threats”, “lies” are not included.

[kano]

threat
θrɛt/
noun
noun: threat; plural noun: threats

    1.
    a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

lie
[lahy]

noun
1.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

@macbook-air
Do you mean that you'll intentionally not build on blocks from Kano.is? I think you need to clarify what you mean by blacklist.

We will not build on his blocks until our local bitcoind got received and verified them in full. This guy leaked our IP addresses to the public, I pm him kindly and begged him to remove them but he refused. If we ever got DDoSed due to his post, we have no choices but point our domains to his pool.

That is a threat and a lie

...
We did not and will not DDoS anyone. And what I said earlier was that we HAVE TO redirect someone else’s attack, including those potential ones from Kano, to Kano’s pool IF that attack is a result of the provoked post of him. Because the attack is caused, directly or indirectly, by him.

... again that is a threat and a lie

[macbook-air]

I have to clean this thread up by removing some posts from people with negative trust feedback. You may already notice the red warnings on the left side, please trade with them with extreme caution!

[btcash]

At what percentage of the hashrate will F2Pool stop accepting new users? 30% is already highly critical.

If you care even a little bit about bitcoin, you would stop mining here and at Antpool.

please ELI5. I can't through all these posts and have the stuff is WAYYY over my head.

Besides SVP mining (which allows less transactions on the bitcoin network) and implementing Full RBF without announcing it before (which could have bankrupted bitpay/coinbase) no mining pool should have such a large amount of hashpower.
With 51% of the power they could control the network (reverse transaction, block transactions, destroy svp wallets (multibit, android wallet...)). At the moment they would have more than 51% if they would collude with Antpool (or hacked, forced...).

Since the rise of the Chinese mining pools, the network is truly in danger.

[iglasses]

Is the site under another attack?  Can't login but my miners *seem* to be ok.

ig

[mikefallen]

Mining on stratum headers is just one innovative contribution among many others from us. And we are happy to see this innovation has been adopted not only by us but also AntPool and BTCC.

"Innovative" is hardly the word for it.  Dangerous and stupid are far more accurate ways to describe it.  You've contributed absolutely nothing.

[macbook-air]

Is the site under another attack?  Can't login but my miners *seem* to be ok.

ig

Yes. Last night our web server got some DDoS attacks. Now it is back.

[macbook-air]

Mining on stratum headers is just one innovative contribution among many others from us. And we are happy to see this innovation has been adopted not only by us but also AntPool and BTCC.

"Innovative" is hardly the word for it.  Dangerous and stupid are far more accurate ways to describe it.  You've contributed absolutely nothing.

These 331 MB of tx are mostly spam from @amaclin, who has been flooding the network with sigops and dusts for months. We increased our fee to reduce spam in block.

In the meanwhile we are also mining largest blocks in blockchain. If you sort all bitcoin blocks by size, the top 1000+ are all from us.

[kano]

What's the average?

[-ck]

What's the average?

I certainly did not mean to detract from this very important question.

What is the average macbook-air?

You will refuse to answer this, you will delete this post so you can continue trying to hide from the truth.

I am asking you as someone with hashrate pointed to f2pool.

Will you not answer a user question as you previously stated you would...

You can see for yourself, all pools by blocksize over 2 years:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/2y?t=l

Solo CKPool average 536,899   
Kano CKPool average 477,925   
f2pool average 380,454   

Statistics are statistics.

[macbook-air]

What's the average?

I certainly did not mean to detract from this very important question.

What is the average macbook-air?

You will refuse to answer this, you will delete this post so you can continue trying to hide from the truth.

I am asking you as someone with hashrate pointed to f2pool.

Will you not answer a user question as you previously stated you would...

You can see for yourself, all pools by blocksize over 2 years:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/2y?t=l

Solo CKPool average 536,899   
Kano CKPool average 477,925   
f2pool average 380,454   

Statistics are statistics.

Two years? Two years ago you pools did not exist!

Last 30 days: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/30d?t=l We have 640,690 bytes on average but Kano has only 636,475 bytes. And for the maximum size we have 1,000,000 bytes, Kano’s has only 888,114 bytes, big difference! We are also confirming more transactions than Kano’s as well. I bet on Kano’s bitcoind the block max size has not been yet set to 1MB.

[-ck]

You can see for yourself, all pools by blocksize over 2 years:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/2y?t=l

Solo CKPool average 536,899   
Kano CKPool average 477,925   
f2pool average 380,454   

Statistics are statistics.

Two years? Two years ago you pools did not exist!

Last 30 days: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/30d?t=l We have 640,690 bytes on average but Kano has only 636,475 bytes. And for the maximum size we have 1,000,000 bytes, Kano’s has only 888,114 bytes, big difference! We are also confirming more transactions than Kano’s as well. I bet on Kano’s bitcoind the block max size has not been yet set to 1MB.

You discretely chose 30 days because it looked good? That's bad manipulation of the statistics. The pools have been there for over a year. Try at least 6 months and you're still behind.

[macbook-air]

You can see for yourself, all pools by blocksize over 2 years:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/2y?t=l

Solo CKPool average 536,899   
Kano CKPool average 477,925   
f2pool average 380,454   

Statistics are statistics.

Two years? Two years ago you pools did not exist!

Last 30 days: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/30d?t=l We have 640,690 bytes on average but Kano has only 636,475 bytes. And for the maximum size we have 1,000,000 bytes, Kano’s has only 888,114 bytes, big difference! We are also confirming more transactions than Kano’s as well. I bet on Kano’s bitcoind the block max size has not been yet set to 1MB.

You discretely chose 30 days because it looked good? That's bad manipulation of the statistics. The pools have been there for over a year. Try at least 6 months and you're still behind.

Didn’t you guys manipulate the statistics at first? Two years... Two years ago there was not as many transactions. Two years ago we were already bigger than you are today but where you guys two years ago?

[kano]

You can see for yourself, all pools by blocksize over 2 years:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/2y?t=l

Solo CKPool average 536,899   
Kano CKPool average 477,925   
f2pool average 380,454   

Statistics are statistics.

Two years? Two years ago you pools did not exist!

Last 30 days: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/30d?t=l We have 640,690 bytes on average but Kano has only 636,475 bytes. And for the maximum size we have 1,000,000 bytes, Kano’s has only 888,114 bytes, big difference! We are also confirming more transactions than Kano’s as well. I bet on Kano’s bitcoind the block max size has not been yet set to 1MB.

You discretely chose 30 days because it looked good? That's bad manipulation of the statistics. The pools have been there for over a year. Try at least 6 months and you're still behind.

Didn’t you guys manipulate the statistics at first? Two years... Two years ago there was not as many transactions. Two years ago we were already bigger than you are today but where you guys two years ago?

2 years ago ... we were writing the software that probably almost every miner on your pool is using to mine to your pool ...
... and 3 years ago ... and 4 years ago ...

[-ck]

Two years? Two years ago you pools did not exist!

Last 30 days: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/30d?t=l We have 640,690 bytes on average but Kano has only 636,475 bytes. And for the maximum size we have 1,000,000 bytes, Kano’s has only 888,114 bytes, big difference! We are also confirming more transactions than Kano’s as well. I bet on Kano’s bitcoind the block max size has not been yet set to 1MB.

You discretely chose 30 days because it looked good? That's bad manipulation of the statistics. The pools have been there for over a year. Try at least 6 months and you're still behind.

Didn’t you guys manipulate the statistics at first? Two years... Two years ago there was not as many transactions. Two years ago we were already bigger than you are today but where you guys two years ago?

Fine that's why I said find a sample size that fits how long all the pools have been around. Cutting it short at 30 days when the pools have been around for over a year is decreasing the sample size. 6 months is the next biggest size after 2 years and all the pools have been around for over a year so it uses the most data points for the best sample size... and you're still behind kano (though you're behind solo ckpool no matter what duration you choose).

[kano]

I bet on Kano’s bitcoind the block max size has not been yet set to 1MB.

It's stated and highlighted on the kano.is forum pool first post and anyone on kano.is should know what it is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0

[adaseb]

Why do people keep DDOS this server. I am not home and can't check my stats! Grrr