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[Mitchell]

OK, but why would it get slower over time if it's just running a simple loop?

Adding 100% after the 100th loss should take the same time as adding 100% after the 1st loss unless something is being accumulated per bet.

Most likely related to the way that Javascript allocates memory / how the garbage collector works.

[tee-rex]

No, it is not that for sure. I think it is more related to JavaScript (?) code being resource hungry (CPU cycles before all). The developers should probably try to optimize the code.

OK, but why would it get slower over time if it's just running a simple loop?

Adding 100% after the 100th loss should take the same time as adding 100% after the 1st loss unless something is being accumulated per bet.

It doesn't get slower with time (and how could it possibly get slower if it runs only for 800 cycles at max). It either freezes at all (so that I would have to refresh the page) or suddenly becomes very sluggish. And it may accelerate (or unfreeze) later, so it is hardly a memory issue as far as I can say.

[dooglus]

It doesn't get slower with time (and how could it possibly get slower if it runs only for 800 cycles at max).

I guess I misunderstand this:

it starts fast but then slows down dramatically in a few dozen of rolls so that it becomes unbearable to see it rolling

I'm not sure what you're saying about it being impossible for something to get slower over time if it only happens a maximum of 800 times. And I guess it doesn't matter either. We're guessing about what's causing the problem without really knowing. We should just wait and the developers will fix it I expect.

[suchmoon]

Edited 2020-11-27 to fix a broken image

Shouldn't it be the same amount?

[Mitchell]

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Shouldn't it be the same amount?

No. One is the Site profit and the other one is the User profit. If the user wins, the site loses profit and the other way around.

[Ejaculation]

Shouldn't it be the same amount?

One of the numbers (I forget which) updates much less often than the other. Stare at it for a couple seconds and you will easily tell.

[suchmoon]

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Shouldn't it be the same amount?

No. One is the Site profit and the other one is the User profit. If the user wins, the site loses profit and the other way around.

Very funny 

Let me rephrase, shouldn't site_profit == user_profit * -1

[suchmoon]

One of the numbers (I forget which) updates much less often than the other. Stare at it for a couple seconds and you will easily tell.

I was staring at it for quite a while, didn't help much. Maybe my stare is not powerful enough

[Ejaculation]

One of the numbers (I forget which) updates much less often than the other. Stare at it for a couple seconds and you will easily tell.

I was staring at it for quite a while, didn't help much. Maybe my stare is not powerful enough

Aha well that's my best guess, and I think it's right. When manI gets on chat, or online here, you can ask him directly via PM. He always responds promptly.

[Mitchell]

Very funny 

Let me rephrase, shouldn't site_profit == user_profit * -1

Oooh. I see. That is one stupid mistake, hahaha. Well, no idea then. Sorry.

[tee-rex]

It doesn't get slower with time (and how could it possibly get slower if it runs only for 800 cycles at max).

I guess I misunderstand this:

it starts fast but then slows down dramatically in a few dozen of rolls so that it becomes unbearable to see it rolling

I'm not sure what you're saying about it being impossible for something to get slower over time if it only happens a maximum of 800 times. And I guess it doesn't matter either. We're guessing about what's causing the problem without really knowing. We should just wait and the developers will fix it I expect.

I meant to say that it didn't get slower gradually, the slow-down happened within 2-3 rolls. It seems to be somehow related with the overall load of the computer. But don't say that it is overloaded, it is not, and everything else runs pretty fast. Live stats are updating with the same rate, and I would even say a way too often. If I don't do anything at all, the rolls are running fast.

And yes, that Javascript Robot Roll code loads CPU 100%.

[dooglus]

Shouldn't it be the same amount?

Could the difference be due to some investors having already paid commission?

That's just a guess. But if you invest, make a profit, then divest, you pay commission immediately.

Total investor profit in that case (net of commission) would be less than total losses by players.

[dooglus]

I lost count of my nit-picks, but here's another:

N+1) the 'login' page asks for 'OTP' but elsewhere you call it '2FA'. Lots of people don't know the term 'OTP' and don't realise you're asking for their 2FA code. It's probably best to just call it '2FA' everywhere.

[suchmoon]

Shouldn't it be the same amount?

Could the difference be due to some investors having already paid commission?

That's just a guess. But if you invest, make a profit, then divest, you pay commission immediately.

Total investor profit in that case (net of commission) would be less than total losses by players.

That would make sense, thank you. Although the difference is now ~0.5 BTC, which would imply 5 BTC of profits was divested. I can't quite connect the dots here yet. The site was up ~15 BTC earlier (from the low point of ~ -3 to ~ +12), so even assuming those who divested started at the low point and bailed at the high point, ONE THIRD of the investment would have to be divested to get the 5 BTC, right? I wish there was more stats available about investment/divestment/commission.

[dooglus]

That would make sense, thank you. Although the difference is now ~0.5 BTC, which would imply 5 BTC of profits was divested. I can't quite connect the dots here yet. The site was up ~15 BTC earlier (from the low point of ~ -3 to ~ +12), so even assuming those who divested started at the low point and bailed at the high point, ONE THIRD of the investment would have to be divested to get the 5 BTC, right? I wish there was more stats available about investment/divestment/commission.

Yes, I saw that 0.5 BTC gap too.

So here's another guess:

The site is kind of odd in how it treats the "invested amount". If you invest 10 and earn 1 in profit, it shows your invested amount as "10" and your profit as "1". There's no way of seeing the "11" without first clicking "divest" which then shows you how much is actually available to divest.

I think if you divest that 11 and reinvest the 10.9 that's left (you pay 0.1 in commission when you divest the 1 BTC profit), your investment will then show 10.9 and your profit will show 0. I think. So the "profit" is shows is "profit that you didn't pay commission on yet" or something like that.

If that is the case (and I'm mostly guessing based on how things look) then the 0.5 difference is 0.5 of profit that was divested, not 10% of 5 BTC of profit that was divested.

That sounds more plausible, right?

I expect we'll get the real story soon...

[guizai]

hmm... PD3 coming out on 9 aug.. fierce competition coming with new feature.. hold this site can hold with the investment option that PD3 dont have 

[Jamie_Boulder]

Dooglus's new project? woot

[guizai]

sad to say.. it's not 

[DiceBitcoin]

That would make sense, thank you. Although the difference is now ~0.5 BTC, which would imply 5 BTC of profits was divested. I can't quite connect the dots here yet. The site was up ~15 BTC earlier (from the low point of ~ -3 to ~ +12), so even assuming those who divested started at the low point and bailed at the high point, ONE THIRD of the investment would have to be divested to get the 5 BTC, right? I wish there was more stats available about investment/divestment/commission.

Yes, I saw that 0.5 BTC gap too.

So here's another guess:

The site is kind of odd in how it treats the "invested amount". If you invest 10 and earn 1 in profit, it shows your invested amount as "10" and your profit as "1". There's no way of seeing the "11" without first clicking "divest" which then shows you how much is actually available to divest.

I think if you divest that 11 and reinvest the 10.9 that's left (you pay 0.1 in commission when you divest the 1 BTC profit), your investment will then show 10.9 and your profit will show 0. I think. So the "profit" is shows is "profit that you didn't pay commission on yet" or something like that.

If that is the case (and I'm mostly guessing based on how things look) then the 0.5 difference is 0.5 of profit that was divested, not 10% of 5 BTC of profit that was divested.

That sounds more plausible, right?

I expect we'll get the real story soon...

Sorry for the late response Dooglus is exactly right. The profit you see under Investments is bankroll - total_invested but you have to take into account that when a user Divests the amount (together with profits made) is subtracted from the bankroll thus this 0.5BTC gap there. FYI dooglus is  mostly to blame for this He had a ~ 0.5BTC profit from investing!!

I can understand that most people are having difficulties on differentiating the total amount invested with the "how much my total invested amount is worth?" and I am working on presenting these statistics on a more user-friendly way. Sorry for that. I think it is a weak point that we have to address.

[AuroraHF]

Please understand that dooglus is just simply a user here, he is not related to the site in anyway other than being an investor of the bank roll and a player on the site like you and I.