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August 14, 2014, 07:31:46 PM |
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yes you have proven you are right about some of the things some of the time lambchop, but not all of the things all of the time. When talking about AM, you need to factor in AM as a whole, and not just selectively discuss "AM's history on havelock" and expect to get away with implying that to mean AM's entire history.
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August 14, 2014, 09:02:06 PM |
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there was a porn guy starting up a business, he looked quite good...
I'm not that guy, but have posted a similar query today. (See my other post.) Could be interesting for the right person.
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August 18, 2014, 08:06:30 AM |
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Please, stay on the topic. Labrat mining seemed Ok to me, considered buying, however, recently clients complain. Any experience there, what is the average ROI?
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August 18, 2014, 01:39:12 PM |
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Please, stay on the topic. Labrat mining seemed Ok to me, considered buying, however, recently clients complain. Any experience there, what is the average ROI?
It's a mining bond, so it's inherently stupid. Why would the owner give you a share of a miner for less than they can make by keeping it themselves. There is one way mining farms/shares makes sense, but even then it's silly. If you pay .8 bitcoins for a miner that will generate 1 bitcoin, maybe sell/lease/rent it out for some number between .8 and 1 to get the coins up front, but even in those rare cases, one missed/late delivery (which is almost guaranteed) guess who's going to get screwed? Not the guy who collected money up front.
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August 19, 2014, 01:34:59 AM |
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It's tough to find a good alt coin to invest in. The best advice I can give is:
1) Invest in a coin you like. I.E , one with solid fundamentals, one that offers something new, etc. The truly good coins are not likely to become worthless. 2) Buy in at the bottom, not the top. I.E you don't say 'hey look wow, GlendallCoin has gone up 300% in the last two weeks, I should get on this train!' . Try to find the bottom or invest in a coin at launch.
There is no way to avoid risk. And right now, pretty much every alt available is been on slide.
Personally I'm just holding hobonickels in alts, because they are at their bottom (IMHO() and are the best PoS coin (the wallet is tops) that generate good interest rates. Research coins, find something you genuinely believe is a good coin, and support it.
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3) If your alt has doubled in value, sell some (I'd say half). Or: If things look like they are dumping, get on board.
I messed this one up a few times, like when I bought a lot of NVC at $5 and should have sold it when it hit $20 but instead waited until it was back down to like $8 before I got out.
I think overall alt coin market is in the shits right now, but this precisely the best time to buy also. You'll never make money if you only buy alts when the market is doing well (as obvious as that sounds not everyone seems to get this),
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September 03, 2014, 06:15:25 AM |
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Has anything new emerged recently? Any other attractive investment opportunity?
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Make sure it has A: Good idea that brings something to crypto as a whole. B: Good devs. C: Just say fuck it and buy Huntercoin ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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September 03, 2014, 07:21:29 AM |
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Has anything new emerged recently? Any other attractive investment opportunity?
Hello. My asset, Kongzi Print Shop, pays regular dividends. We are about to expand with a new high-end printer and new office space. When we do the dividend will increase substantially. We have photos of the stuff we sell online and we have sold material to community members who can vouch for us. Check it out. https://coinsortium.co/security.php?ticker=KPShttps://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/market/10941619155761914846(Yes, we have a dual listing. Check out the NXT listing, shares are currently on sale there. Check out our main discussion thread on nxtforum.) Although I can't guarantee you will make money on KPS for legal reasons, what I can tell you is that we make money and we give it to our shareholders. You won't regret your decision. Ask anyone who's bought our shares. Thanks and bye. p.s. we do business cards. cheap. Our most popular request is the "Patrick Bateman". It's bone. PM me.
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September 03, 2014, 07:37:11 AM |
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The American Passenger Pigeon, once a staple food of American Indians, is now extinct. Consider the chilling parallels between this noble bird's tragic tale and the plight of the Bitcoin Investor. "At a nesting site in Petoskey, Michigan in 1878, 50,000 birds Bitcoin investors were killed each day for nearly five months. The surviving adults attempted a second nesting at new sites, but were killed by professional hunters before they had a chance to raise any young."[1] ... "Still another way [of hunting Bitcoin investors] was to simply set a nesting tree on fire, cooking the doves investors or collecting them as they tried to escape."[1] ... "Two farmers from the vicinity of Russelsville, distant more than a hundred miles, had driven upwards of three hundred hogs to be fattened on the pigeons Bitcoin investors which were to be slaughtered. Here and there, the people employed in plucking and salting what had already been procured, were seen sitting in the midst of large piles of these birds amateur financiers. The dung lay several inches deep, covering the whole extent of the roosting-place."[1]1. Passenger Pigeon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon#HuntingIt's hard to find oneself to be a Passenger Pigeon ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) . I failed to be a successful investor. It's obvious to me now, that the best option to choose for me was not to buy any shares @ Cryptostocks.
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Minerjoe
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September 03, 2014, 09:22:08 AM |
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Has anything new emerged recently? Any other attractive investment opportunity?
Hello. My asset, Kongzi Print Shop, pays regular dividends. We are about to expand with a new high-end printer and new office space. When we do the dividend will increase substantially. We have photos of the stuff we sell online and we have sold material to community members who can vouch for us. Check it out. https://coinsortium.co/security.php?ticker=KPShttps://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/market/10941619155761914846(Yes, we have a dual listing. Check out the NXT listing, shares are currently on sale there. Check out our main discussion thread on nxtforum.) Although I can't guarantee you will make money on KPS for legal reasons, what I can tell you is that we make money and we give it to our shareholders. You won't regret your decision. Ask anyone who's bought our shares. Thanks and bye. p.s. we do business cards. cheap. Our most popular request is the "Patrick Bateman". It's bone. PM me. This seems interesting but it is obvious your dividend per share ratio is dropping due to increase in the number of shares and this is going to continue. ATM your ROI is great but what happens when the number of shares increases? Any plans for the future?
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September 03, 2014, 12:33:28 PM |
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yes you have proven you are right about some of the things some of the time lambchop, but not all of the things all of the time. When talking about AM, you need to factor in AM as a whole, and not just selectively discuss "AM's history on havelock" and expect to get away with implying that to mean AM's entire history.
No. I have made many mistakes, but when it comes to Bitcoin securities? None. Here, I have been right all of the time. Inb4 HUMILITY: Being right here is as laudable as remembering to breathe. Oh, and AM? Here: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fnc64hn3dj%2FCapture.jpg&t=665&c=ZDE__jKeeuigSA) How's it goin'?
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September 03, 2014, 01:34:53 PM |
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This seems interesting but it is obvious your dividend per share ratio is dropping due to increase in the number of shares and this is going to continue. ATM your ROI is great but what happens when the number of shares increases? Any plans for the future?
Good question. There's a thread on nxtforum discussing this. Once we sell about 15,000 shares we will have enough for the new printer and the first few months of rent in the new office. The new printer will cut cost per card by ~2.5 cents, and the office space which will allow us to store bulk orders for things like index cards and laminator pockets. I estimate the savings we realize by ordering in bulk and storing it in the office will pay for the office space. As you have noted, our ROI is good right now, at about 6% per week. Yes, that's a LOT. If we sold six times as many shares (18,000) we would be north of our phase one goal of 15,000 shares, and we would still be paying 1% a week. Which is still a lot. Beyond that our dividend will increase because of reduced costs and the ability to print and sell more cards. A black box is what happens when we sell more than ~50,000 shares and start advertising in the community and on places like google adwords. If we start getting a flood of orders this business could easily explode. This business is like a bakery. We take ten cents worth of flour and sell it for a dollar. If we can get close to capacity I do not think you will be worried about share dilution. I think it is in our best interest NOT to sell too many shares. If we sell too many shares it will quell demand. Our goal is to sell as few shares as possible. Then, if we need to go to the market a second time for financing, we won't have to sell as many shares. Or worse, issue more.
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September 03, 2014, 07:32:57 PM |
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I have to agree that there is a flip side to this - many "investors" out there really do have truly unrealistic ideas about returns and how long it takes for a business to find its feet. I would also add that a significant number of individuals are seemingly not confident in their own judgement and only dive it once they know everyone else has - guess this is why these pump and dump schemes keep doing so well.
Disclaimer: I'm the lead on a new asset-backed protocol nearing release and have witnessed first hand how tough it is to get genuine investor support on board.
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September 03, 2014, 10:06:59 PM |
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Maybe you will like this project: https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/1000It is as real as it gets, take some time to read trough the entire presentation. Any questions you might have, feel free to PM me, and I will answer you gladly.
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September 07, 2014, 02:56:20 PM |
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Please, stay on the topic. Labrat mining seemed Ok to me, considered buying, however, recently clients complain. Any experience there, what is the average ROI?
Im just wondering, where can someone buy all these shares of these companies?
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September 07, 2014, 03:13:22 PM |
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Im just wondering, where can someone buy all these shares of these companies? from nxt wallet ? http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet/
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September 10, 2014, 05:31:47 AM |
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Searching for 1 more opportunity to invest in. Options?
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September 10, 2014, 01:25:04 PM Last edit: September 10, 2014, 01:38:56 PM by bcmine |
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I went through couple of posts here and all of them end up with the same conclusion, SCAM after SCAM. Is there any decent crypto related security which is actually worth of investing in? Is there anything with a decent business plan, a clear statement how to use money collected from investors and a dividend which might provide ROI some time in the future?
Has Bitcoin really become a tool for dishonest people to steal money from the community??? I really hope I am wrong.
So what is your 'investment' background? Before offending other, we can ask you, what kind of education in investing and successfull projects you managed so far. But just kidding. Can give you one advice. Dont 'invest' any money anywhere, that how you get money over time. the chance of grabbing a successfull project is 1:1000 ?? But just kidding. I made a Forex bet on that two months ago: type into the machine greenzone pamm Yeah, dont you like BT anymore? Got your 50k account already full? Ltcgear shares at max? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) take alook at my link to free bitcoins. the good thing with that faucet is, that you have to do nothing and getting a range of coins everyday on your account.
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September 10, 2014, 01:37:45 PM |
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This seems interesting but it is obvious your dividend per share ratio is dropping due to increase in the number of shares and this is going to continue. ATM your ROI is great but what happens when the number of shares increases? Any plans for the future?
Good question. There's a thread on nxtforum discussing this. Once we sell about 15,000 shares we will have enough for the new printer and the first few months of rent in the new office. The new printer will cut cost per card by ~2.5 cents, and the office space which will allow us to store bulk orders for things like index cards and laminator pockets. I estimate the savings we realize by ordering in bulk and storing it in the office will pay for the office space. As you have noted, our ROI is good right now, at about 6% per week. Yes, that's a LOT. If we sold six times as many shares (18,000) we would be north of our phase one goal of 15,000 shares, and we would still be paying 1% a week. Which is still a lot. Beyond that our dividend will increase because of reduced costs and the ability to print and sell more cards. A black box is what happens when we sell more than ~50,000 shares and start advertising in the community and on places like google adwords. If we start getting a flood of orders this business could easily explode. This business is like a bakery. We take ten cents worth of flour and sell it for a dollar. If we can get close to capacity I do not think you will be worried about share dilution. I think it is in our best interest NOT to sell too many shares. If we sell too many shares it will quell demand. Our goal is to sell as few shares as possible. Then, if we need to go to the market a second time for financing, we won't have to sell as many shares. Or worse, issue more. I want seriously help you and going to buy your shares. I dont get your business. So you multiplicate copyright material? Whats a card? Whats the card 'Patrick Bateman'? American Psycho ok, but what the heck. Flashcards design? My own flashcard?
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September 10, 2014, 04:41:45 PM |
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I went through couple of posts here and all of them end up with the same conclusion, SCAM after SCAM. Is there any decent crypto related security which is actually worth of investing in? Is there anything with a decent business plan, a clear statement how to use money collected from investors and a dividend which might provide ROI some time in the future?
Has Bitcoin really become a tool for dishonest people to steal money from the community??? I really hope I am wrong.
So what is your 'investment' background? Before offending other, we can ask you, what kind of education in investing and successfull projects you managed so far. But just kidding. Can give you one advice. Dont 'invest' any money anywhere, that how you get money over time. the chance of grabbing a successfull project is 1:1000 ?? But just kidding. I made a Forex bet on that two months ago: type into the machine greenzone pamm Yeah, dont you like BT anymore? Got your 50k account already full? Ltcgear shares at max? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) take alook at my link to free bitcoins. the good thing with that faucet is, that you have to do nothing and getting a range of coins everyday on your account. Seriously, that is your recommendation, qoinpro? Where I can make a dollar every 6 months. Heh, just kidding. Regarding my education, I ve been analyzing stocks in real life for the last 11 years and I know what to search for. The problem is that people provide limited infos regarding their IPOs and most of these infos are pure BS. A major advantage of Bitcoin, its anonymity is also its major problem, people can lie and there is no authority to check the data. This is why it is extremely hard to find innovative and profitable businesses, they are often covered in a lot of Bitcoin IPO junk. Trust me, differentiation is the key and it is also our single most efficient defense against bad investment decisions.
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