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July 31, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
Last edit: August 11, 2014, 03:20:19 PM by bbxx
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my brother was scammed by beastlymac,
scammer was stating that my brother has not paid him, has not ordered him
kept his gridseeds within 5 months and my brother lost 3.1 btc

scammer is at default trust so he can destroy immidiatelly any account he wants.

he marked me, my brother, and other scammed people as not trusted posting undeserved negative feedback.

where i can get help?

can i get support from administrators/trusted members to ressolve this?

thanks for any help

whole case is below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8111920#msg8111920

answer do bicknellski accusations
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8285365#msg8285365
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July 31, 2014, 02:39:04 PM
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my brother was scammed by beastlymac,
scammer was stating that my brother has not paid him, has not ordered him
kept his gridseeds within 5 months and my brother lost 3.1 btc

scammer is at default trust so he can destroy immidiatelly any account he wants.

he marked me, my brother, and other scammed people as not trusted posting undeserved negative feedback.

where i can get help?

can i get support from administrators/trusted members to ressolve this?

thanks for any help

whole case is below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8111920#msg8111920



No, you cannot. The trust system is not moderated, so you can do nothing about it.
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July 31, 2014, 02:40:30 PM
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The trust system isn't moderated but people can be removed from the default trust list by the user who put them there (which in this case is theymos). Best bet is to contact theymos and ask him to review the situation and he can take action to remove him if appropriate.

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July 31, 2014, 08:58:44 PM
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i have sent pm to theymos, i hope he will help.
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July 31, 2014, 11:05:59 PM
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No, you cannot. The trust system is not moderated, so you can do nothing about it.
This would be ridiculous. You can't allow a scammer (if he is one) in the default trust.
Contacting theymos might be hard at times.

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August 01, 2014, 12:55:12 AM
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No, you cannot. The trust system is not moderated, so you can do nothing about it.
This would be ridiculous. You can't allow a scammer (if he is one) in the default trust.
Contacting theymos might be hard at times.

To be honest, it is a bit ridiculous. He'd have to make this case known to theymos and the other mods, and they would have to make a judgement, which should be a long process.
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August 11, 2014, 03:15:54 PM
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now bicknellski aslo posted trust feedback at my account.
he also has blocked pm communication so i post open letter here

hi
you have posted trust feedback at my account.
could you explain why you did this?

can you answer why do you think that i posted lies?
lie means that you intentionally state fact wchich you know is not true.

my statement was result of beastlymac hidden secrect list wchich i didnt know it existed, so it is false accusation

can you also fairly answer at scam thread? link at signature https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8285365#msg8285365

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August 12, 2014, 01:28:02 AM
Last edit: August 12, 2014, 04:45:38 AM by Beastlymac
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My feedback is true and is based of the false accusations that you made in that thread and to other members of the community via pm. I left my feedback based on whether or not I would trust you and the answer is no I would not. If people read the thread they will see the false accusations that you made. Biknellski opinion of you can be seen in his trust rating.

Edit:

beastly answer to this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8285365#msg8285365

then

read definition of lie first, read whole scam topic, find your error

and remove your false feedback from my account.

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http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/defamation

Definition of defamation/slander/libel. Notice that is what your feedback is based upon. Then read the below quote.

can you qoute my slanderous lie?

i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.

where is my lie?

Ok.

Claiming that i don't have a private list.

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but he behaved like little rat. he is now telling tales that devices were already ordered...
This was proved to be true. You claimed it wasn't. A lie.
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"he lied that he has his miners sealed"

Sent via PM
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lying that you have ordered goods

That was proven false

Sent via PM
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i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,

That was again proven to be a lie fabricated to mislead people.

So those are the lies i was able to compile in 10 minutes.

They where made in an attempt to discredit my account and past business relations and are thus slanderous the spamming related to you posting them off topic in other threads (for example here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707786.0) including one of my sales threads. That post has since been deleted.

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August 12, 2014, 08:07:35 AM
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"telling tales" is my lie?

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.


there are thoose tales
where is your proof that whey were ordered? piece of paper with miners?
secret private list?

thoose are lies too?



waiting for bicknellski answer to this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8285365#msg8285365

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August 12, 2014, 10:19:05 AM
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"telling tales" is my lie?

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.
http://i58.tinypic.com/504qq0.png

there are thoose tales
where is your proof that whey were ordered? piece of paper with miners?
secret private list?

thoose are lies too?

http://i61.tinypic.com/2nk5o3q.png

waiting for bicknellski answer to this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8285365#msg8285365

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YOU MADE FALSE ACCUSATIONS THAT IS YOUR LIE

Please re read the reason for me feedback then read where you have posted slanderous lies then you will understand why I have left the feedback. If you had posted only truthful facts this would have never happened but you decided to post deceitful lies and are now reaping the consequences.

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August 12, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
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my accusations are based on your responses that my brother havent ordered/paid anything
you were denying all the time, ignoring my brother

so my "lies" are result of yours
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August 14, 2014, 12:33:08 PM
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is there any chance to perform here "court case" where judges would be trustworthy members of this forum?

my brother was scammed, i was wrongly accused of lies and fabricated evidence
my account is marked as untrusted

scammer is still at default trust and is denying to fairly resolve evil he did
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August 14, 2014, 12:35:02 PM
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is there any chance to perform here "court case" where judges would be trustworthy members of this forum?

my brother was scammed, i was wrongly accused of lies and fabricated evidence
my account is marked as untrusted

scammer is still at default trust and is denying to fairly resolve evil he did

You can personally ask other trustworthy members to investigate and look into the case, but the max that you'll be able to do is get him off DefaultTrust, but your negative rating will stay.
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August 14, 2014, 12:40:23 PM
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is there any chance to perform here "court case" where judges would be trustworthy members of this forum?

my brother was scammed, i was wrongly accused of lies and fabricated evidence
my account is marked as untrusted

scammer is still at default trust and is denying to fairly resolve evil he did

As has been stated many times, your brother needs to be doing this, not you. Posting all over the forum with the same accusations that have been answered many times is not helping you or him. By not providing shipping information, ignoring the auction thread for the items in question, the continued copy/paste of your accusations and the total blase attitude of your brother about this matter looks oddly suspicious.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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August 14, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
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is there any chance to perform here "court case" where judges would be trustworthy members of this forum?

my brother was scammed, i was wrongly accused of lies and fabricated evidence
my account is marked as untrusted

scammer is still at default trust and is denying to fairly resolve evil he did

As has been stated many times, your brother needs to be doing this, not you. Posting all over the forum with the same accusations that have been answered many times is not helping you or him. By not providing shipping information, ignoring the auction thread for the items in question, the continued copy/paste of your accusations and the total blase attitude of your brother about this matter looks oddly suspicious.

fact is beastlymac have scammed curiousminer by not responding to him having his miner in hands within 4 months.
scammer also put false feedback at my account (all my "lies" were resolved as true - they were based at beastlymac responses)

Communication is not a form of scam.

deny order, payment,




ignore within few months

I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.

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Again:

is there any chance to perform here "court case" where judges would be trustworthy members of this forum?

my brother was scammed, i was wrongly accused of lies and fabricated evidence
my account is marked as untrusted

scammer is still at default trust and is denying to fairly resolve evil he did

As has been stated many times, your brother needs to be doing this, not you. Posting all over the forum with the same accusations that have been answered many times is not helping you or him. By not providing shipping information, ignoring the auction thread for the items in question, the continued copy/paste of your accusations and the total blase attitude of your brother about this matter looks oddly suspicious.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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Again:

is there any chance to perform here "court case" where judges would be trustworthy members of this forum?

my brother was scammed, i was wrongly accused of lies and fabricated evidence
my account is marked as untrusted

scammer is still at default trust and is denying to fairly resolve evil he did

As has been stated many times, your brother needs to be doing this, not you. Posting all over the forum with the same accusations that have been answered many times is not helping you or him. By not providing shipping information, ignoring the auction thread for the items in question, the continued copy/paste of your accusations and the total blase attitude of your brother about this matter looks oddly suspicious.

ignoring customer having his goods within 4 months is not scam?
come on.
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August 15, 2014, 01:43:15 AM
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Your lies have been proven to be true. You made false accusations that his order was submitted to the manufacturer after he requested a refund. This was proven to be false. That is your lie you can not escape it. In future only post information you know to be 100% true. My feedback on you will not be removed. It is interesting that you complain about the feedback I have left on you being "false" when you have left random negative feedback based on information that you don't understand and don't comprehend because you care to only pick out segments from information to appease you bias attitude. My feedback is not false it is true and based only on facts. Everyone in the gridseed groupbuy received their miners or a refund except your brother, do you know what the difference was between your brother and everyone who received their miners? Only one difference. Your brother never provided his shipping details. You are now trying to make me pay for his negligence in not providing his shipping details.

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August 15, 2014, 02:26:01 AM
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Everyone in the gridseed groupbuy received their miners or a refund except your brother,

I don't think that really works as a defence, you're admitting a debt but saying its his [his brother's] fault you owe him money. It doesn't stop you owing him the money.

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August 15, 2014, 02:48:25 AM
Last edit: August 15, 2014, 03:09:17 AM by Beastlymac
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Everyone in the gridseed groupbuy received their miners or a refund except your brother,

I don't think that really works as a defence, you're admitting a debt but saying its his [his brother's] fault you owe him money. It doesn't stop you owing him the money.

I owe him his miners but am unable to fulfil it because he is withholding his shipping address. Thus I can not provide his miners and for that reason I am auctioning them off and will send the proceeds made from the auction to him as that is the only way I see that will work in this situation.

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