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July 31, 2014, 05:27:25 PM
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NEW DISCUSSION: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1428573.0



Website:
http://stellar.org

It seems a Ripple fork with a different agenda, more community oriented.
We will see ...


Official forum:
https://stellartalk.org/

Official IRC chat:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23thestellar&uio=d4

Viewer:
https://www.stellar.org/viewer
Explorers
http://www.stellarchain.io/
https://graph.coinexgateway.com/
Stellar Ledger (live transactions)
http://spolu.github.io/stellar-ledger/

Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/stellar/

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/stellarfoundation

Exchangers:
https://justcoin.com
https://www.kraken.com
https://bx.in.th/BTC/STR/
http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=str
https://ybex.co/trade/str2btc/index
https://www.allcoin.com/trade/str_btc
http://coin-ga.me/exchange/coin/STR
https://stellarix.pw
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_str
https://www.crypto-trade.com/currencies/trade/str_btc
https://anxpro.com/

Gateway
http://coinex.co.nz
http://www.ripplefox.com/
http://www.yett.co/

Value:
http://www.stellarvalue.com/
http://www.stellarvalue.org/
https://str-price.firebaseapp.com/


Update, they are lowering the number of Stellars stay at the $10 value. They are not 6000 anymore
6000 Stellars for free!
You can get 6000 Stellars for free by adding your Facebook confirmed account (with phone number) and by confirming your email.
Both are NOT required to open an account, they are just needed to get the 6000 Stellars.


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I'm NOT part of the team of Stellar, you can find all of them here:
https://www.stellar.org/about/

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Stellar is a common financial platform, designed to be open and accessible to everyone.

This document outlines the long-term plan of both the Foundation and the Stellar protocol.

Our mission
Our mission is to expand financial access and literacy worldwide.

When individuals have access to financial services and the confidence that those services are working in their best interest, those individuals can independently improve their lives. Yet the current financial system is too costly and complicated, leaving millions of people on the sidelines.

Just as the internet allowed anyone to send an email or create a blog, Stellar’s common financial platform now allows you to easily send, save, and receive money, without large fees or hassle.

Responsiblities
The Foundation is responsible for:

Programs promoting digital financial literacy funded by grants of digital currency and distribution of stellars.
Developing free tools and services that support the users of the network and the network itself, particularly the functions that are seen as beneficial for the world that are not being addressed by for-profit entities.
Ensuring that the Stellar protocol remains freely accessible to anyone who wishes to use it.

Transparency
The last few years have shown that a worldwide transition to digital money is starting, and large amounts of capital are currently entering the space. Our not-for-profit structure is designed to ensure that we remain focused on the goal of educating and giving access to as many people as possible. When designing and implementing any programs, the non-profit will take care to make sure it is not a privileged player in the network or the protocol.

To build trust — within the community and within our team — we are committed to transparency and other safeguards. Therefore, as part of our governance practices, the following will be made permanently and publicly available:

Sum of salaries + stellar grants of all employees
Quarterly budget
Details/mechanism of the various stellar distribution programs
Aggregate number of individuals who have participated in the direct signup program and number of stellars distributed
Details and progress of the increased access program, including number of applications received, grants granted, and distribution schedule
Details and progress of the bitcoin program
Total stellars held by the Foundation

Funding
The Foundation received a loan of $3,000,000 from Stripe which was subsequently repaid with 2% of the stellars. The Foundation is allowed to use up to 5% of the initial stellars to fund operations (including the loan repayment).

Stellar distribution
At genesis 100 billion stellars were created. The stellars are required to be distributed to the world in the following manner.

50% for the world via the direct signup educational program
25% for nonprofits to reach underserved populations via the increased access program
20% for the bitcoin program
5% for operational costs
In order to provide additional stability to the system, the nonprofit founders and Stripe have voluntarily agreed not sell any of the stellars initially received (either via employee grants in the case of the founders or via repayment of the loan) for at least five years; however, Stripe may auction any of their stellars, provided the recipients also agree not to sell their stellars for five years, and net profits are returned to the Foundation.

Direct signup program
50% of the initial stellars are dedicated to the direct signup program. The purpose of the program is to extend financial knowledge and access to financial services around the world. Our goal is to distribute the initial allocation of 50 billion stellars in three years but no longer than five years.

Registration for the initial direct signup program will be done via Facebook. We are using Facebook as our initial login methodology because it is the largest database of identity, and our goal is to reach as many people as possible with our educational programs before running out of funds. Therefore, we need a system that allows us to screen out duplicate or spam accounts.

We will set up a website where anyone can come and register. We will also make reasonable best effort to screen out fraudulent accounts or people with multiple Facebook accounts. Once the direct signup program has commenced, the Foundation will begin work on alternative channels for distribution of stellars, including SMS and other online channels, in order to allow more people access without having to have a Facebook account.

People participating in this program will receive their initial grant of stellars to fund an account which they will use to learn how to use online financial tools. In addition, completing educational tutorials will earn extra stellar rewards.

We commit to admitting at least the following number of people each month into the direct signup program.

Month 1: 10k people
Month 2: 20k people
Month 3: 50k people
Month 4-12: 100k people per month
Month 12+: capped only by technical constraints

We anticipate even broader reach than these numbers, limited only by the scalability of the network. Once these monthly limits have been reached, people may be placed on a waitlist and be admitted into the program as more space is available. Every day we will take people off the waitlist and add them to the system. We believe that Stellar is most useful when groups of interconnected people are using the system. With this in mind, we may let people in out of order based on certain criteria such as geographic region, availability of tools in localized languages or number of friends in the system.

Increased access program
25% of the initial stellars will be set aside for grants to other nonprofit organizations. The goal of the nonprofit program is to allow the Foundation to reach underserved populations (hardest to reach) that do not presently have access to the online and mobile channels included in the direct signup program.

Nonprofits will be asked to submit grant proposals outlining how they can distribute stellars to underserved populations. The grant application process will be established and directed by the Executive Director. Grant applications will be reviewed by the Foundation for approval. All funds initially reserved for the nonprofit program will be distributed to nonprofits no later than 10 years of the Foundation’s formation. Extra time is being allocated to the nonprofit program as we believe that mobile phone penetration in developing countries is growing so fast that allowing additional time to administer this program will provide greater access to individuals living in those regions.

Bitcoin program
20% of the initial stellars are set aside to be distributed to holders of bitcoin and XRP (19% for bitcoin holders and 1% for XRP holders).

We will take a snapshot of the bitcoin blockchain at a particular date and will set up a claim page that will allow bitcoin holders to receive their pro-rata share of the stellars reserved under this program by verifying they control their address from that blockchain snapshot. For example, a user owning .001% of the bitcoins in the blockchain snapshot would receive .001% of the stellars set aside for bitcoin holders under this program, or 190,000 stellars.

For bitcoin holders, distribution will begin within 6 months after Stellar is open to the public. The Foundation will maintain this claim site for at least 3 months.

For XRP, we will take a snapshot of ripple ledger 6,780,717 (a ledger occuring May 22nd, 2014). Any ripple account holder with less than 7.5 million XRP (~$50,000 USD at that time) in his or her account at that ledger will qualify for the giveaway. Every qualified XRP holder has two options to participate:

Pro-rata: Similar to the bitcoin holders, eligible XRP holders may receive their pro-rata share of stellars allocated to this giveaway (1%) and be credited for up to 1.5 million XRP.
Donation: Eligible XRP holders may also donate up to 1.5M XRP to a selection of charities and receive an equal amount of stellars in return.
For example: Sam had 1 million XRP as of ledger 6,780,717. He could choose to donate his XRP to a charity listed in the program and get 1 million stellars from the bitcoin program. Or he could choose to claim his pro-rata share of stellars allocated to this giveaway. Sam has .001% of the XRP so he would get .001% of the 1 billion stellars allocated to the XRP holders or 10,000 stellars.

The XRP claim page will be up at within 6 months after Stellar is open to the public and will remain up for at least 3 months.

Members and board members of the nonprofit will not participate in the bitcoin program for any bitcoins or XRP they hold during the claim period. If there are unclaimed stellars in the bitcoin program after this period, they will go to the nonprofit’s operational fund.

Stellar creation
To account for both economic growth and lost stellars, there is a fixed 1% annual rate of new stellar creation. These new stellars will be generated on a weekly basis and distributed via a direct voting method similar to “participatory budgeting.” Our hope is that account holders will use the inflation-generated stellars to enable novel business models or to fund causes they support.

Here’s how new stellars created via this mechanism will work:

Every account is able to select another account as its nominee for new currency. Voting will be weighted according to how many stellars the voter has in his or her account. For instance, if you have 120 stellars and you vote for Jane as the recipient, that will be counted as 120 votes for Jane.

Each week, the network will identify the winners. The winners are the 50 top voted for accounts that also received at last 1.5% of the vote. If no account has over 1.5% of the vote, then the top 50 accounts voted for are considered the winners. That week’s new stellars are then distributed pro-rata to the winners.

If the Foundation is the beneficiary of new stellars, the stellars can be used to support our operations or to extend the direct signup and increased access programs.

Software development
One of the activities of the Foundation will be to maintain a software development team with the purpose of: a) contributing to the open source code that supports the Stellar system, and b) building free, non-commercial open-source tools that advance the Foundation’s mission of expanding education and access. This will allow developers and individuals anywhere to have a baseline of code that they can start with before localizing for their own needs.

The Foundation will be allowed to allocate stellars for bug bounties and other developer programs to accelerate the development and increase security of the platform on an as-needed basis. Such programs and bug bounties will be reported in the publicly released quarterly budgets.

Board
Initial membership of the Foundation will consist of three members, Patrick Collison, Joyce Kim, and Jed McCaleb. Initial board members are Keith Rabois, Jed McCaleb, Patrick Collison. The Board will be expanded to at least 5 members by the end of 2014. Like most nonprofits, board members and advisors get no compensation for their service in such roles.

Board responsibilities
The responsibilities of the Board will be to set the mission and purpose of the Foundation, to select an Executive Director, to ensure adequate financial resources for the Foundation, and to ensure the ethical integrity of the Foundation.

Executive Director responsibilities
The Executive Director will be responsible for appointment of other management positions, including but not limited to financial, operations, community, technology, etc. and the setting of salary and benefit levels for other staff. The Executive Director (“ED”) and other managers appointed by the ED will retain the right to resign at any time upon written notice.

Employee compensation
In order to attract and retain the best employees, the Foundation acknowledges that it must offer competitive salaries and benefits. Employee Salaries are set by the Executive Director and approved by the Board. The Executive Director salary is set by the Board. Employees will also be offered stellar bonuses, as approved by the independent members of the Board. All employees of the Foundation are on a four-year vesting schedule for their stellars.

Continued funding of the foundation and auction
From the original donation, 5% of the stellars were set aside to fund the operations of the Foundation. Periodically the Foundation will auction off a portion of these stellars in the operational pool to raise money for the operations of the Foundation. The auction will take place inside the distributed exchange. These will be held on an as-needed basis, though we intend to hold one of these auctions monthly.

The Foundation may also receive donations from the public.

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Are there any major differences between this and XRP?
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July 31, 2014, 05:44:31 PM
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Oh hey it looks like I've contributed to stellard since my name (vinniefalco) is all over the commit log! (https://github.com/stellar/stellard/commits/master?page=6)

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July 31, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
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I have never even been able to understand what the point of Ripple is, now there's another one? I don't get it. I can already send bitcoin to anyone I want by using a bitcoin client and I can buy bitcoin and trade and exchange bitcoin with other services on the internet. What exactly makes Ripple and Stellar special? What benefit is there to using it vs not using it?
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July 31, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
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trading

I have never even been able to understand what the point of Ripple is, now there's another one? I don't get it. I can already send bitcoin to anyone I want by using a bitcoin client and I can buy bitcoin and trade and exchange bitcoin with other services on the internet. What exactly makes Ripple and Stellar special? What benefit is there to using it vs not using it?
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July 31, 2014, 06:11:31 PM
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The point is multi-currency trading platform that will find shortest path to wished financial instrument in exchange of your financial instrument, instead of paying fees to traditional banking.

The "whitepaper" can be found on Stripe's blog https://stripe.com/blog/bitcoin-the-stripe-perspective
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July 31, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
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Are there any major differences between this and XRP?

Best I can tell the biggest difference is you need a facebook account to get started rather than a bitcointalk account.

That and the currency is mildly inflationary at 1% a year.  I guess all the ripple and XRP haters will be able to recycle their scam threads without much modification.

Good Luck!
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July 31, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
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I'm looking to buy stellars with btc, xrp, usd...

Any takers?
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Hmmm...  how is that snapshot supposed to work if bitcoin is held in an exchange (i.e. BTC-E) or service (i.e. Coinbase)Huh

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July 31, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
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Are there any major differences between this and XRP?

Stellar is trying to be Ripple with the evil taken out, i.e. much better distribution, a democratic process with voting on the use of newly generated coins, and an emphasis on regular users and community projects (whereas Ripple's emphasis is firmly on integration with financial institutions like banks).

Edit: Also run by a non-profit foundation rather than as a business.
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July 31, 2014, 08:58:41 PM
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Let's see... for the moment I don't really see the point (as I didn't see it in Ripple either) but time will tell.

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Hmmm...  how is that snapshot supposed to work if bitcoin is held in an exchange (i.e. BTC-E) or service (i.e. Coinbase)Huh


I saw some block explorers that could guess if a wallet address was on a big exchange, but it's only a guess, and only for some of the biggest exchanges. Does stellar use this to attempt excluding exchange wallets? Even if they do it will still make Satoshi and big early adopters even richer.
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Free, Roll Eyes so its worth a shot lol

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Hmmm...  how is that snapshot supposed to work if bitcoin is held in an exchange (i.e. BTC-E) or service (i.e. Coinbase)Huh


I saw some block explorers that could guess if a wallet address was on a big exchange, but it's only a guess, and only for some of the biggest exchanges. Does stellar use this to attempt excluding exchange wallets? Even if they do it will still make Satoshi and big early adopters even richer.

Exchanges and services hold their client's Bitcoin in an address different from the deposit address.   That is why, when you receive coins, it is automatically transferred to another account (that you don't own).

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This snapshot thing is idiotic. Exchanges are going to get gazillions of coins.

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This snapshot thing is idiotic. Exchanges are going to get gazillions of coins.

I can see the point of it if it includes addresses containing more than a tiny amount of bitcoins, but excludes addresses containing huge amounts of bitcoins. A small number of people hold a large percentage of all mined bitcoins and they would also hold a large percentage of stellar if their wallets are included. There will be endless complaints about an unfair distribution similar to the complaints about Nxt's distribution.
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July 31, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
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Connect through facebook? Roll Eyes Jed, wtf?

Edit: Besides that it looks like ripple.com done right.

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July 31, 2014, 09:41:26 PM
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Are there any major differences between this and XRP?

Stellar is trying to be Ripple with the evil taken out, i.e. much better distribution, a democratic process with voting on the use of newly generated coins, and an emphasis on regular users and community projects (whereas Ripple's emphasis is firmly on integration with financial institutions like banks).

Edit: Also run by a non-profit foundation rather than as a business.

Very well stated.  Given that the Ripple Protocol is impressive tech and much of the Ripple hatred is RL related - I have high hopes for this project.
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Interested in what these Hero Members have to say about this blatant scam.
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Interested in what these Hero Members have to say about this blatant scam.

Can you explain this claim?
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