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August 07, 2014, 02:16:02 PM
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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/



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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/14/gchq-tools-manipulate-online-information-leak

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August 07, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
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No suprise there if it is true. The 4th estate abandoned its government watchdog role years ago.

All we need now is a Tom Truong post to explain how this is related to the 13 inbred bloodlines of the illuminati.

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August 07, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
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No suprise there if it is true. The 4th estate abandoned its government watchdog role years ago.

All we need now is a Tom Truong post to explain how this is related to the 13 inbred bloodlines of the illuminati.

I actually really look forward to him showing up. He is quite comical sometimes!!!
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No suprise there if it is true. The 4th estate abandoned its government watchdog role years ago.

Very true. You only need look at who owns most of the media today; it's the GE's, Disney's & other multi nationals of the world. Not coincidently they are also some of the biggest political donators, so they all get their bills passed and agenda forwarded. It becomes a grotesque little dirty circle.

On a reporter-on-the-ground level, journalism hasn't figured out the internet effectively yet. Profits are gone which means less reporters, which leads to articles being written from press releases or just rewrites of other reporters work. Less reporters also equals lack of job security which leads to self censorship. It's a cruel, undeserving death for an important social function.

That's why I hope that something like btc can enable good journos to operate independently and earn a quid.
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August 07, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – A prominent CNN commentator, the top two political reporters for The Huffington Post, a Reuters reporter, the editor of The Nation magazine, a producer for Al Jazeera America television, a U.S. News & World Report columnist, and approximately two dozen Huffington Post contributors are among the more than 1,000 members of Gamechanger Salon.

top secretFounded by leftwing activist Billy Wimsatt, the group is a secretive digital gathering of writers, opinion leaders, activists and political hands who share information, ideas and strategy via a closed Google group....

Disturbing, but really not a big surprise.

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Isn't sharing resources and tips a fairly common and harmless practice amongst journalists?


http://mediatrackers.org/assets/uploads/2014/07/Gamechanger-Salon-Groundrules-Policies-FAQs-Google-Docs.pdf

Sounds like the most evil group ever. /s
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – A prominent CNN commentator, the top two political reporters for The Huffington Post, a Reuters reporter, the editor of The Nation magazine, a producer for Al Jazeera America television, a U.S. News & World Report columnist, and approximately two dozen Huffington Post contributors are among the more than 1,000 members of Gamechanger Salon.

top secretFounded by leftwing activist Billy Wimsatt, the group is a secretive digital gathering of writers, opinion leaders, activists and political hands who share information, ideas and strategy via a closed Google group....

Disturbing, but really not a big surprise.

Well, let's see if I can surprise you.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LxEnHWxF16wJ:reading.am/billywimsatt/list/page/16+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



https://www.reading.am/billywimsatt/following



https://www.reading.am/billywimsatt/followers



Back to - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LxEnHWxF16wJ:reading.am/billywimsatt/list/page/16+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us - and scroll down just a tad to see this:



For those who don't know who is Ted Nelson, here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emDJTGTrEm0



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Theodor Holm Nelson (born June 17, 1937) is an American pioneer of information technology, philosopher, and sociologist. He coined the terms "hypertext" and "hypermedia" in 1963, and published them in 1965. Nelson has also been credited as being the first person to use the words transclusion, virtuality, intertwingularity, and teledildonics.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. – A prominent CNN commentator, the top two political reporters for The Huffington Post, a Reuters reporter, the editor of The Nation magazine, a producer for Al Jazeera America television, a U.S. News & World Report columnist, and approximately two dozen Huffington Post contributors are among the more than 1,000 members of Gamechanger Salon.

top secretFounded by leftwing activist Billy Wimsatt, the group is a secretive digital gathering of writers, opinion leaders, activists and political hands who share information, ideas and strategy via a closed Google group....

Disturbing, but really not a big surprise.

Well, let's see if I can surprise you.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LxEnHWxF16wJ:reading.am/billywimsatt/list/page/16+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



https://www.reading.am/billywimsatt/following



https://www.reading.am/billywimsatt/followers



Back to - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LxEnHWxF16wJ:reading.am/billywimsatt/list/page/16+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us - and scroll down just a tad to see this:



For those who don't know who is Ted Nelson, here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emDJTGTrEm0



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nelson

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Theodor Holm Nelson (born June 17, 1937) is an American pioneer of information technology, philosopher, and sociologist. He coined the terms "hypertext" and "hypermedia" in 1963, and published them in 1965. Nelson has also been credited as being the first person to use the words transclusion, virtuality, intertwingularity, and teledildonics.

Ok so I looked at all the stuff you just posted on here, I am not really sure what any of this is supposed to mean to me though??? So you found something that archived what this guy was saying/doing is what you are telling us with this? It doesn't really have much on it so I am unsure of how to interrupt this or what context to apply this to, are you saying this is some of their secret conversations that got auto archived and they don't know we can see it?
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Ok so I looked at all the stuff you just posted on here, I am not really sure what any of this is supposed to mean to me though??? So you found something that archived what this guy was saying/doing is what you are telling us with this? It doesn't really have much on it so I am unsure of how to interrupt this or what context to apply this to, are you saying this is some of their secret conversations that got auto archived and they don't know we can see it?

I just found it odd that Billy Wimsatt follows, and is following ONLY one person that's connected to Ted Nelson who once espoused that he knew who Satoshi Nakamoto is.

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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/


But is this really connected to Bitcoin in this case? Are they bought by people who profit from anti-BTC lobbying? I'm not really sure whether to put this in the 'wow, holy crap!' category or in the tinfoil-hat one...

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August 07, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/


Yeah, speaking of FUD, not all left-leaning people are against Bitcoin.  That's a gross generalisation at best and a display of downright ignorance at worst.  I'm extremely socially liberal and quite left wing in terms of economic views, yet I love the idea of Bitcoin.  Lack of understanding and poorly researched articles about crypto come from all corners of the political spectrum, so let's not make out like this is some overly simplistic left-vs-right thing when it isn't.

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August 07, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/


Yeah, speaking of FUD, not all left-leaning people are against Bitcoin.  That's a gross generalisation at best and a display of downright ignorance at worst.  I'm extremely socially liberal and quite left wing in terms of economic views, yet I love the idea of Bitcoin.  Lack of understanding and poorly researched articles about crypto come from all corners of the political spectrum, so let's not make out like this is some overly simplistic left-vs-right thing when it isn't.

Ok, if you have been paying attention for the past ever, you will see that government likes to gain control of things and run things. The right side more likes to control military spending/defense and promotes private business a lot as a general rule. I haven't met anyone yet on the far right or moderate right or center right or whatever kind of the right spectrum that had any problems with bitconi because it is a private protocol someone made and thats the nature of what most of these people stand for.

However, watching any left ring/left wing moderate news or reading their articles or their websites you will see they like to control many things dealing with fiscal policy. As a general rule the right side wants less regulation on banking and monetary policy in general. The left wants to control down to a pinpoint, wants new taxes, and has CONSTANTLY lobbied against Bitcoin. They still are mostly against it and there are only a few I have seen that like it(generally). All I really see is conservatives/repubs/libertarians/tea party who are in favor of it for the most part.

For you to call me out on being "absolute" tells me that's how you see things, and I don't like being insulted in that regard. Anyone who is absolute about something isn't very open minded. Notice how I said "very" I leave room for error. I also wasn't absolute in what you quoted.
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August 07, 2014, 08:58:42 PM
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Well that's scary.

Even though our journalism and press is free in the U.S., it can still be manipulated and controlled by private organizations. You have to look through all the crap to find the truth nowadays.
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August 07, 2014, 09:12:15 PM
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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/


Yeah, speaking of FUD, not all left-leaning people are against Bitcoin.  That's a gross generalisation at best and a display of downright ignorance at worst.  I'm extremely socially liberal and quite left wing in terms of economic views, yet I love the idea of Bitcoin.  Lack of understanding and poorly researched articles about crypto come from all corners of the political spectrum, so let's not make out like this is some overly simplistic left-vs-right thing when it isn't.

Ok, if you have been paying attention for the past ever, you will see that government likes to gain control of things and run things. The right side more likes to control military spending/defense and promotes private business a lot as a general rule. I haven't met anyone yet on the far right or moderate right or center right or whatever kind of the right spectrum that had any problems with bitconi because it is a private protocol someone made and thats the nature of what most of these people stand for.

However, watching any left ring/left wing moderate news or reading their articles or their websites you will see they like to control many things dealing with fiscal policy. As a general rule the right side wants less regulation on banking and monetary policy in general. The left wants to control down to a pinpoint, wants new taxes, and has CONSTANTLY lobbied against Bitcoin. They still are mostly against it and there are only a few I have seen that like it(generally). All I really see is conservatives/repubs/libertarians/tea party who are in favor of it for the most part.

For you to call me out on being "absolute" tells me that's how you see things, and I don't like being insulted in that regard. Anyone who is absolute about something isn't very open minded. Notice how I said "very" I leave room for error. I also wasn't absolute in what you quoted.

It's hardly my fault your OP sounds like an attempt at a witch hunt, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm getting the wrong impression here.  You're linking to an article which makes it sound as though there's some sort of left-wing conspiracy to manipulate the media and simultaneously saying "These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for yadda, yadda, yadda" and haven't cited any sources for the claims that these people are responsible for the FUD.  All I'm saying is that there have been plenty of poorly researched articles from right wing sources like Fox or the Daily Mail which also babble on incessantly about drugs and money laundering.  Similarly, I've seen plenty of articles from left leaning sources which are highly positive about cryptocurrency.  Call out the FUD where you see it, by all means, but you'll have to state your case in a little more detail if you want to convince people that some shady, secretive group are out to destroy Bitcoin like the OP seems to imply they are.

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top secretFounded by leftwing activist Billy Wimsatt, the group is a secretive digital gathering of writers, opinion leaders, activists and political hands who share information, ideas and strategy via a closed Google group....

Disturbing, but really not a big surprise.

Thought that people who do this level of conspiracy would be clever than that.


Anyway, this is not a surprise.

See the mainstream media, all the opinions and news are too close to be just for chance, they had to have some kind of coordination.
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August 07, 2014, 09:16:43 PM
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Not surprised at all.

It's always the same response, every time someone says to me Bitcoin is used for illegal activities I tell them it's no different than what cash can be used for. Heck, Bitcoin wasn't even designed to be anonymous, it's all on a public ledger. Difference between anonymous and pseudonymous.

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Not surprised at all.

It's always the same response, every time someone says to me Bitcoin is used for illegal activities I tell them it's no different than what cash can be used for. Heck, Bitcoin wasn't even designed to be anonymous, it's all on a public ledger. Difference between anonymous and pseudonymous.
The mass media is the same way regarding conservative politicians and ideas. I am not at all surprised that journalists want to stop bitcoin from succeeding. Bitcoin is very much against liberal ideals as it takes away power from the government and forces the government to be a smaller, more appropriate size.
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Alex Jones was right again (im being serious)... Mainstream media
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“Thanks for everything all of you do every day to make the world a better place!” she signed off.
These people are horrific.
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August 08, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
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My favourite part of this is a comment.
"I don't believe thinking people are surprised by this. The left needs to do "group think" since they find thinking for themselves to be a function they can not perform."

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Damn lefties. Good thing the right is nothing like them.
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August 08, 2014, 12:37:39 PM
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Oh, noes! Where's my fainting couch?
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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/


Yeah, speaking of FUD, not all left-leaning people are against Bitcoin.  That's a gross generalisation at best and a display of downright ignorance at worst.  I'm extremely socially liberal and quite left wing in terms of economic views, yet I love the idea of Bitcoin.  Lack of understanding and poorly researched articles about crypto come from all corners of the political spectrum, so let's not make out like this is some overly simplistic left-vs-right thing when it isn't.

Ok, if you have been paying attention for the past ever, you will see that government likes to gain control of things and run things. The right side more likes to control military spending/defense and promotes private business a lot as a general rule. I haven't met anyone yet on the far right or moderate right or center right or whatever kind of the right spectrum that had any problems with bitconi because it is a private protocol someone made and thats the nature of what most of these people stand for.

However, watching any left ring/left wing moderate news or reading their articles or their websites you will see they like to control many things dealing with fiscal policy. As a general rule the right side wants less regulation on banking and monetary policy in general. The left wants to control down to a pinpoint, wants new taxes, and has CONSTANTLY lobbied against Bitcoin. They still are mostly against it and there are only a few I have seen that like it(generally). All I really see is conservatives/repubs/libertarians/tea party who are in favor of it for the most part.

For you to call me out on being "absolute" tells me that's how you see things, and I don't like being insulted in that regard. Anyone who is absolute about something isn't very open minded. Notice how I said "very" I leave room for error. I also wasn't absolute in what you quoted.

It's hardly my fault your OP sounds like an attempt at a witch hunt, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm getting the wrong impression here.  You're linking to an article which makes it sound as though there's some sort of left-wing conspiracy to manipulate the media and simultaneously saying "These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for yadda, yadda, yadda" and haven't cited any sources for the claims that these people are responsible for the FUD.  All I'm saying is that there have been plenty of poorly researched articles from right wing sources like Fox or the Daily Mail which also babble on incessantly about drugs and money laundering.  Similarly, I've seen plenty of articles from left leaning sources which are highly positive about cryptocurrency.  Call out the FUD where you see it, by all means, but you'll have to state your case in a little more detail if you want to convince people that some shady, secretive group are out to destroy Bitcoin like the OP seems to imply they are.

I will keep that in mind. I find myself being taken for being literal sometimes when I am meaning come off in a different way. I have not really seen any positive articles about bitcoin, but I have seen plenty of negative press on it and it is usually from MSNBC/CBC/ABC and all those other alphabet soup fake news organizations that just spread the same crap.

Honestly I used to watch all of those and not have any issue with how they operated, but I always had a liking for FOX better. Now that I am in my mid twenties I can't stand seeing stuff on the other news places now. It really bothers me that media companies are allowed to spin their propaganda and collude like this. I am not saying that it should be illegal or anything, it just puts a bad taste in my mouth to know that our "free press" is more of a "free propaganda".

By their own nature they are against bitcoin and other private institutions. Small businesses and middle sized businesses are suffering due to how the left has demonized anyone who takes a risk to make their own business, they are demonized for being "rich". They state their claims about how if you make over 250,000 a year you are a bad evil manipulative rich a-hole. The very line of work I am in requires me to keep training and learn things. I will probably have a few more certifications in SAP within the next few years and try to get a consulting job, which easily pays 100 bucks an hour or more later. I work hard for my stuff, I learn and memorize tons of data and text. So when I see these left leaning morons who get welfare all the time(my dad is a store manager at a grocery store and sees them buy steaks/beer/cigs with their EBT cards and all that bs and they brag about it loudly) I get pretty angry that it is still allowed to happen.

The culture of this country is being ruined mostly by the left, they advocate being "free" and giving "women a choice" and "representing minorities". That is great and all but historically democrats were the ones in the south who wanted to keep slavery and wanted to keep people down, and the mostly republican north fought them and won. There is a reason they were called Southern Dixie Democrats and were the worst racists you ever heard of, and there are some famous quotes where they say "we will have the N****s voting for us until he end of time" from the democrat party.


Planned Parent Hood founded by Margaret Sanger was a ruse to abort black babies. When you look this information up you can see her quotes on the matter and how she wanted to use Eugenics to kill minorities and wanted to create the perfect race(kinda like Nazism). MLK Jr. was a republican for a good reason, because democrats are the racist ones and everyone knew it back then. They don't know it now because of said groups like this 1,000 members plus giving the "spin" 24/7. They circle their wagons, they have their ducks in a row, they consistently lie so much it seems true and feels real. They might not be oppressing people openly, and some people might think they are doing a good thing, but when you consistently "give a man a fish" instead of "teach a man to fish" this is what our country turns into, and that is how they retain their control over minorities.  They make them put their hand out to their "masters" who are the modern democrats(racists). That is what the democrat party does, they don't like bitcoin because it takes away their power, the power of the purse and the power of looking like they are a "champion of the people". Conservatives and repubs/teaparty/right leaning people basically all like bitcoin. Although there are some who are still ignorant about it and don't understand what it is or confuse it with "drugs" because of the lies, they mostly are for this type of thing, private business.


I can go into a ton more detail but for now that is all I really want to say on it. There is a lot of information out there waiting for you to find it. It takes time to be knowledgeable, and takes even more time to be more knowledgeable.
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This is really shocking to me. These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for prostitution, drugs, illegal money transfers, fraud, hacking etc and you can see it if you watch any left leaning news show, trust me when I say I have seen it many times and way more on the left leaning places... These people come together and get their story straight, then they all report the same thing in their daily news shows/websites/articles/newspapers.

Talk about committing fraud and getting so many news organizations together on a lie that it seems like the truth because everyone is reporting it. This group is probably responsible for most of the negative things ever said about bitcoin. Remember, the people most against bitcoin are typically democrat/liberal minded, they WANT the government to control everything, ESPECIALLY MONEY.

http://eagnews.org/1000-member-secretive-progressive-journalist-group-uncovered/


Yeah, speaking of FUD, not all left-leaning people are against Bitcoin.  That's a gross generalisation at best and a display of downright ignorance at worst.  I'm extremely socially liberal and quite left wing in terms of economic views, yet I love the idea of Bitcoin.  Lack of understanding and poorly researched articles about crypto come from all corners of the political spectrum, so let's not make out like this is some overly simplistic left-vs-right thing when it isn't.

Ok, if you have been paying attention for the past ever, you will see that government likes to gain control of things and run things. The right side more likes to control military spending/defense and promotes private business a lot as a general rule. I haven't met anyone yet on the far right or moderate right or center right or whatever kind of the right spectrum that had any problems with bitconi because it is a private protocol someone made and thats the nature of what most of these people stand for.

However, watching any left ring/left wing moderate news or reading their articles or their websites you will see they like to control many things dealing with fiscal policy. As a general rule the right side wants less regulation on banking and monetary policy in general. The left wants to control down to a pinpoint, wants new taxes, and has CONSTANTLY lobbied against Bitcoin. They still are mostly against it and there are only a few I have seen that like it(generally). All I really see is conservatives/repubs/libertarians/tea party who are in favor of it for the most part.

For you to call me out on being "absolute" tells me that's how you see things, and I don't like being insulted in that regard. Anyone who is absolute about something isn't very open minded. Notice how I said "very" I leave room for error. I also wasn't absolute in what you quoted.

It's hardly my fault your OP sounds like an attempt at a witch hunt, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm getting the wrong impression here.  You're linking to an article which makes it sound as though there's some sort of left-wing conspiracy to manipulate the media and simultaneously saying "These are the people who are blaming bitcoin for yadda, yadda, yadda" and haven't cited any sources for the claims that these people are responsible for the FUD.  All I'm saying is that there have been plenty of poorly researched articles from right wing sources like Fox or the Daily Mail which also babble on incessantly about drugs and money laundering.  Similarly, I've seen plenty of articles from left leaning sources which are highly positive about cryptocurrency.  Call out the FUD where you see it, by all means, but you'll have to state your case in a little more detail if you want to convince people that some shady, secretive group are out to destroy Bitcoin like the OP seems to imply they are.

Looks like a recent revelation has been rehashed from Feb. 28, 2014.

http://www.scmagazine.com/files-containing-360-million-credentials-125-billion-email-addresses-located-on-deep-web/article/336211/








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We call them the "Press on Crack" crowd.  Grin

They not just targeting BTC but anything the "Puppet masters" wants.

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http://www.youarenotpayingattention.com/2014/08/08/the-lie-behind-1-2-billion-stolen-passwords/

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http://www.youarenotpayingattention.com/2014/08/08/the-lie-behind-1-2-billion-stolen-passwords/

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I thought we were talking about the 1,000+ people getting together about the collusion of the press? But it is interesting information you are providing, thank you.
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http://www.youarenotpayingattention.com/2014/08/08/the-lie-behind-1-2-billion-stolen-passwords/

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I thought we were talking about the 1,000+ people getting together about the collusion of the press? But it is interesting information you are providing, thank you.

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We call them the "Press on Crack" crowd.  Grin

They not just targeting BTC but anything the "Puppet masters" wants.

Money can buy so much in this world, it's scary. And there are so many people in this world, trying to hang on to their "power" positions, to keep them there.
Must of the MSM is like this. Most of them are supporters of the liberal agenda and will support any democrat policy and political candidate.

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It almost seems like these journalists spend a lot of time networking and trying to promote themselves.
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The Journolist was uncovered a few years ago.
This comes as no surprise.
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I don't believe it. Way more than 1,000 American journalists are part of some secretive progressive media cabal. It's more likely fewer than 1,000 journalists in the entire country are not part of the left wing movement to subvert the Republic. The misty-eyed, mainstream messiah media is almost universal in its love of Potentate Obama and his revenge regime.

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It's like a media choom gang!

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The vast left wing conspiracy?
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If this scares anyone, you might want to do your homework on the Bilderberg group. That should scare you more
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People working together towards a common goal? Treacherous! Get over yourselves. Everyone does things like this. Is it so evil? It's the same thing as asking some fiction writers you know to help promote your new book, or asking some friends to tell their friends about a party you're throwing. I bet there are all kinds of conservative groups that do the same shit.
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And they are secretly funded by George Soros and are going to make millions off of solar energy and had Vince Foster killed.
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Oh, so scary... to paranoid partisan pussies.
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Since when are journalists not allowed to have political views?
I'm sure the Fox News folks have political views as well. Oh wait, they're not really journalists.

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Since Obama has a low approval rating, it is obvious that this group is not unduly influencing the public through media outlets.
But let's pretend they implemented a Liberal bias in our media outlets anyway, eh?
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Replace progressive with conservative, and see how the liberal circle would get their panties all bunched up crying media bias!
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I'm really surprised by this, but I've suspected that some (!) were working together. I didn't nearly imagine that it would be this long.
It's just sad to see what journalism has turned into.

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It does answer the question of how the MSM seems to all say the same thing about any ideological issue
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Just going to point out for some rightwingers that Fox News and its affiliates are also part of the "Main Stream Media".
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So what's the point here, that people shouldn't be allowed to communicate with whomever the fuck they want? Or that those communications shouldn't be allowed to be hidden?
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Oh look, a conspiracy of conspiracy deniers  Smiley
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Top tier journalists still using google. Must be super sensitive info

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Just going to point out for some rightwingers that Fox News and its affiliates are also part of the "Main Stream Media".

Are any Fox News associated people on this list?
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Where is the info regarding them discussing Bitcoin?

I consider myself to be someone more of the left than of the right, but I will concede that most Bitcoin opposition is from the left -- what it comes down to is they don't like putting money outside of taxation's reach, and they're friendlier to government currency manipulation in general.

I am someone who believes that people who earn more/have more should pay more, and I'm also a big fan of Bitcoin. I can't help but think there has to be a sensible way for both to work.
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So what's the point here, that people shouldn't be allowed to communicate with whomever the fuck they want? Or that those communications shouldn't be allowed to be hidden?

I don't think there was a point, just a kneejerk reaction from someone with a different opinion.


Where is the info regarding them discussing Bitcoin?

I was asking the same thing.  Pretty sure there isn't any.  Just some baseless conjecture that's been embellished to sound like more of a scandal than it actually is.

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If anyone has been around these forums long enough to see the dozens and dozens of users who, from the very first post, make it clear that their *only* objective is to make every post an anti-Bitcoin war cry, then this isn't too surprising.  Sure, I'd imagine a few of those users are just bitter because they irresponsibly lost all of their savings and need someone else to blame, but the sheer volume of these types of users is indicative of something else going on.  And that's not including YouTube and Reddit posters, etc.
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Where is the info regarding them discussing Bitcoin?

I was asking the same thing.  Pretty sure there isn't any.  Just some baseless conjecture that's been embellished to sound like more of a scandal than it actually is.

Shouldn't at the very least this post be moved to another board or something? Title is highly misleading at best.
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If anyone has been around these forums long enough to see the dozens and dozens of users who, from the very first post, make it clear that their *only* objective is to make every post an anti-Bitcoin war cry, then this isn't too surprising.  Sure, I'd imagine a few of those users are just bitter because they irresponsibly lost all of their savings and need someone else to blame, but the sheer volume of these types of users is indicative of something else going on.  And that's not including YouTube and Reddit posters, etc.

Well it is a good thing I don't make every post an anti-Bitcoin post. I just recently sent out 5 separate transactions of .001 BTC to people for giving me feedback on my YT channel.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725612.msg8282181#msg8282181


But I am more realistic, in the sense that the left and right and everyone do conspire to get their agenda across. The only issue I have with the left is mainly that they are wrong on mostly everything when it comes to economics and they spread too much bs on demonizing people. The left has done so much disinformation spreading that entire indutries have had to spring up to constantly call them on there lies and bs, Example: talk radio, Fox News. Do you know why most left leaning talk radio shows goes bankrupt within months? Because they lie too much and people call in and call them on it every time.

A local radio show features a more moderate right leaning person in the morning and every caller who calls in is always pleasant to him and never is rude of calls him a liar. Every time they have the left leaning guy on who comes on an hour later a majority of the callers who call in call him a liar and prove he is lying or slanting the truth all the time. I am very surprised the left leaning radio host hasn't quit yet and he still lies too. He condescends 24/7 and tells people the left has better answers and anyone who disagrees is backwards/racist/sexist/everything. My source of knowledge on this is listening to the radio show every single morning during my 1 hour commute for the past 2 years. The guy is absolutely hands down hated and where I live in this city the majority of people vote democrat.


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I would think that the a large percentage of the people that support BTC are the liberal minded ones, not the other way around (as you suggest).

The rest of what you have stated is pretty shocking, but not surprising to be true...
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August 11, 2014, 01:24:16 PM
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Where is the info regarding them discussing Bitcoin?

I was asking the same thing.  Pretty sure there isn't any.  Just some baseless conjecture that's been embellished to sound like more of a scandal than it actually is.

Shouldn't at the very least this post be moved to another board or something? Title is highly misleading at best.

Indeed, the Politics & Society subforum would be far more fitting, IMO.


The only issue I have with the left is mainly that they are wrong on mostly everything when it comes to economics and they spread too much bs on demonizing people. The left has done so much disinformation spreading that entire indutries have had to spring up to constantly call them on there lies and bs, Example: talk radio, Fox News. Do you know why most left leaning talk radio shows goes bankrupt within months? Because they lie too much and people call in and call them on it every time.

A local radio show features a more moderate right leaning person in the morning and every caller who calls in is always pleasant to him and never is rude of calls him a liar. Every time they have the left leaning guy on who comes on an hour later a majority of the callers who call in call him a liar and prove he is lying or slanting the truth all the time. I am very surprised the left leaning radio host hasn't quit yet and he still lies too. He condescends 24/7 and tells people the left has better answers and anyone who disagrees is backwards/racist/sexist/everything. My source of knowledge on this is listening to the radio show every single morning during my 1 hour commute for the past 2 years. The guy is absolutely hands down hated and where I live in this city the majority of people vote democrat.

One person's "truth" is another person's "propaganda".  You're never going to get everyone to agree on this stuff.  From the perspective of someone on the left, it's normally the right who are in favour of deregulating the finance sector and that deregulation is one of the primary causes of the the global clusterfuck going on in the world economy right now.  People on the left generally think the finance sector should be kept on a tighter leash for this precise reason.  Banks are a law unto themselves and all this neoliberal, crony-capitalism, profit-at-the-expense-of-moral-decency bullshit is the driving force behind it.  Call that demonizing if you want, but real world events back that statement up.  

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August 16, 2014, 03:00:41 PM
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Well it's their fault to think so and not use their minds the right way. They might then conclude that there is something wrong with the world not the bitcoin and that is a big difference between the two.

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August 16, 2014, 03:54:24 PM
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Replace progressive with conservative, and see how the liberal circle would get their panties all bunched up crying media bias!

There is a huge double standard, mostly because anything like this gets spun by that very same liberal media. Look at the difference between the Tea Party coverage and the early Occupy coverage (before OWS completely embarrassed themselves). Liberal media bias is a fact.

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