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[ipominer]

One new coin to rule them all?

[yellowduck2]

One new coin to rule them all?

that was suppose to be esports coin. The developer got FUD out and lock the thread but his account seems to be active.

[askcoin2]

All 3 coins were well developed, well released, stable coins until they were abandoned by their developer.

I wonder what is the reason.

[Vampiro4L]

One new coin to rule them all?

There is, its called Minerals....real development takes time but they have made a ton of progress in the past month.

[StormTheFront]

One new coin to rule them all?

I still see 3 coins

One new thread to rule all of the locked ones?
Now that sounds more accurate.
Considering the old Dev has locked all of his threads and continues to "Actively" ignore everyone he scammed.
Oh wait, it is all written in English in the OP.
Fancy that.

Good to see a place for all 3 communities to come together   (one that cannot be shutdown).
Maybe good things are yet to come.

I will be keeping a hopeful eye on this.

[thefrog]

Let's see what comes from this.
Still have my 80k CSO, even if they probably will never be worth anything

[johnambush]

i'm in...

[HunterS]

As a former LOL ipo investor I still believe in the idea of having specific coins for niches so when I'd see a good dev team & plan (for example how to deal with letters from RIOT etc) then I'd propably invest again.

[Pebbelzz]

As a former LOL ipo investor I still believe in the idea of having specific coins for niches so when I'd see a good dev team & plan (for example how to deal with letters from RIOT etc) then I'd propably invest again.

I agree, each one seemed like it had specific areas it could really shine in

[birdonwheels5]

I was reading some of the responses from the newbie accounts in the ESC thread, and I can't believe how naive they were when this OP came in with the facts. Either they were completely ignorant/stupid, or it was the dev under an alt account trying to repel FUD and praise himself (which he did a lot of). When he couldn't win, he decided to dump the coin with a fake excuse about the website, and locked the thread. If he was serious about it, he wouldn't lock it, or he'd make a new thread AND THEN lock the old one, with a link to the new thread at the bottom.

People like him make me sick.

[stoneone]

more game ,that's a good idea.

[kopam]

I do not think that a Multipool i something that will save the coin. The reason for this is that you wont see anything above 200mh's into this pool. No reasonable miner will put his miners on a coin that has nothing right now.

First you need to fix the coin, make a takeover happen, get some plans for the future - a whitepaper. And when things start happening, maybe then make a multipool ( even if i think that the multipool coin hype is long over )

[shanuu]

I am a big fan of riot lol.
So i hope lolcoin will be adopted by riot players!

Keep up the good work!

I am still holding!!!

[Boom.NO1]

You have done a good job,i will in and i will support you!

[shanuu]

When i play lol, me and couple of friends, we use lolcoin wallet to reward the winner.
It whould be aswesome for us riot accept lolcoin!!!

[StormTheFront]

One thing is for certain short term.....


Both LOL coin, and CSO coin, are in danger of being de-listed from Bittrex this week. (AUGUST 15)
Unless both coins can maintain 0.1 BTC average over a 7-day period, it will be lights out for these coins permanently.

LOL - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-LOL
CSO - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CSO

ESC is not in danger of being de-listed yet.
However, the ESC market is bare now too & volume is starting to get low even now.
Everyone needs to help each other.



Someone has made the argument, that if these coins ever turn around you can just re-list them.
Not impossible.
Also not very likely to ever happen, and even if it did that would send investors running faster than 3 obvious IPO scam coins in a row.
That is a scenario that we all want to avoid.

The only way to temporarily buy time, is to increase the trade volume on both the LOL and the CSO markets.

We do NOT need to drive prices up, or invest our life savings, or do anything drastic.
These are still currently shit scam coins.
So buyer beware!!!
However, if this thread is anything to go by, we may be headed towards a revival.... and if you buy in as cheap as these coins are today.... you may be in for amazing profits one day!!!
Or this effort might fail.
So I wouldn't invest everything you got.
We only need everyone to chip in lunch money or less, and whatever you can find under your couch

If you are in the crappy position of holding the bag from these coins already...
Then consider buying just a few more coins now.
At these low prices you should be able to buy enough to cover your losses (if this ever goes anywhere) for only a few dollars at the most.


If you want to help, this is one way that you can. Stimulate the market. Keep it alive! Every little bit helps.

[Nyterax]

I'm not a holder of any of those 3 but I would say the 3 communities need to collectively donate BTC to an escrow and use that to hire a competent dev to combine the premises of all 3 coins into one solid, stable wallet of a new coin which could perhaps start with 50% or so PoW coins premined and exchange those against useless LOL, CSO and ESC coins in fair ratios. Just an idea.

[StormTheFront]

I'm not a holder of any of those 3 but I would say the 3 communities need to collectively donate BTC to an escrow and use that to hire a competent dev to combine the premises of all 3 coins into one solid, stable wallet of a new coin which could perhaps start with 50% or so PoW coins premined and exchange those against useless LOL, CSO and ESC coins in fair ratios. Just an idea.

That is not a bad idea, but it doesn't solve any problems. Only creates new ones.

50% pre-mine == Immediate Fail.
The only thing worse than 3 IPO scams in a row, is following that up with a 50% pre-mine to "fix" things.
Nobody will go for that.
Especially to save bagholders.

Furthermore, if a new coin was to be created, it would be best at that point not to look back.
One coin cannot save the bagholders of another coin.
Let alone 3 other coins.
To do so would only create a very unnecessary handicap for the new coin you created.
We could just forget all of this and aim to start a new coin.... but the entire point of this here, is to help those who were scammed to recoup some value.

If we can prove that this idea will still be much more profitable when done properly, than when you waste peoples time trying to scam them..... well then, that would be an interesting #$%@ you to the old Dev.
Wouldn't it??
Especially if all he had to do was allow volunteers to help him.
Which he refused.
Every step of the way.
He shit all over a multi-million dollar idea.
And he was happy to walk away with only a few thousand dollars.

If this community comes together and pitches in everything that they can, then that is exactly what I expect will be accomplished.
Value to be returned to those who were burnt.
But more importantly, that we will show the old useless Dev just how useless he was. How he fought against receiving your money. And ultimately scammed himself!!!!

This is not about a new coin.

This is about a community coming together, and pitching in to create something from nothing. To help each other. You don't even need to be a bagholder to be a part of this.
Please everyone volunteer your skills to the OP. No matter what they may be.

[chinchs]

Do we have developers to take over code? If dev is missing we can't do much without a good dev.

[StormTheFront]

Do we have developers to take over code? If dev is missing we can't do much without a good dev.

Our first mission as a community is to SAVE THESE MARKETS. We need everyone's help to do that!
We are already working behind the scenes with more than enough skill to get this ball rolling, and to take this much further than the Dev ever did during all 3 coins combined.
But that doesn't mean we won't be seeking help from the community when we need it. The community is what will make these coins succeed!
We could have the best development team in the world, but it will all be for nothing, if we can't save these markets NOW!

Fair enough. For now.
I do hope this thread will eventually see more transparency.
That will be essential after what lead to this.

I have to agree, a much more pressing concern is keeping those markets alive.
Nothing will matter much if that goes down.
And that is 2 days from now.

We need to save the CSO and LOL markets, FAST, or there won't be enough developers on earth to save these coins after that final nail in the coffin.

What do you want from the dev?

Brilliant question.
What does the community realistically expect from anyone picking up the pieces and building on these ashes?
If this is going to be the communities coin(s), then the community should have some say!!
What ideas do you all have?
What steps should be taken to revive this mess?

Personally, I would be happy if the Dev could manage to get Betting up and running for all 3 coins.
Not setting the bar very high, I realize.
But that would at least deliver what was promised before, even at a primitive level.
If the Dev can manage that much, we can build from there?

I would love to let my imagination run wild, and suggest all sorts of things.
But the basics might be the best thing to hope for (at first).
Done right.

Maybe there are better ideas out there?? Other approaches? What do you want from the dev?

[chinchs]

Do we have developers to take over code? If dev is missing we can't do much without a good dev.

Our first mission as a community is to SAVE THESE MARKETS. We need everyone's help to do that!
We are already working behind the scenes with more than enough skill to get this ball rolling, and to take this much further than the Dev ever did during all 3 coins combined.
But that doesn't mean we won't be seeking help from the community when we need it. The community is what will make these coins succeed!
We could have the best development team in the world, but it will all be for nothing, if we can't save these markets NOW!

Fair enough. For now.
I do hope this thread will eventually see more transparency.
That will be essential after what lead to this.

I have to agree, a much more pressing concern is keeping those markets alive.
Nothing will matter much if that goes down.
And that is 2 days from now.

We need to save the CSO and LOL markets, FAST, or there won't be enough developers on earth to save these coins after that final nail in the coffin.

What do you want from the dev?

Brilliant question.
What does the community realistically expect from anyone picking up the pieces and building on these ashes?
If this is going to be the communities coin(s), then the community should have some say!!
What ideas do you all have?
What steps should be taken to revive this mess?

Personally, I would be happy if the Dev could manage to get Betting up and running for all 3 coins.
Not setting the bar very high, I realize.
But that would at least deliver what was promised before, even at a primitive level.
If the Dev can manage that much, we can build from there?

I would love to let my imagination run wild, and suggest all sorts of things.
But the basics might be the best thing to hope for (at first).
Done right.

Maybe there are better ideas out there?? Other approaches? What do you want from the dev?

A crazy idea could be, set up ESC as the main coin and set a relation between the others (1 ESC = x LOL or x CSO), when somebody place a bet, they do it in ESC, and wallet manage to exchange to LOL for a League of Legends games or CSO if it is Counter Strike. This will avoid ppl thinking in different coins. What do you think?

[yellowduck2]

Do we have developers to take over code? If dev is missing we can't do much without a good dev.

Our first mission as a community is to SAVE THESE MARKETS. We need everyone's help to do that!
We are already working behind the scenes with more than enough skill to get this ball rolling, and to take this much further than the Dev ever did during all 3 coins combined.
But that doesn't mean we won't be seeking help from the community when we need it. The community is what will make these coins succeed!
We could have the best development team in the world, but it will all be for nothing, if we can't save these markets NOW!

Fair enough. For now.
I do hope this thread will eventually see more transparency.
That will be essential after what lead to this.

I have to agree, a much more pressing concern is keeping those markets alive.
Nothing will matter much if that goes down.
And that is 2 days from now.

We need to save the CSO and LOL markets, FAST, or there won't be enough developers on earth to save these coins after that final nail in the coffin.

What do you want from the dev?

Brilliant question.
What does the community realistically expect from anyone picking up the pieces and building on these ashes?
If this is going to be the communities coin(s), then the community should have some say!!
What ideas do you all have?
What steps should be taken to revive this mess?

Personally, I would be happy if the Dev could manage to get Betting up and running for all 3 coins.
Not setting the bar very high, I realize.
But that would at least deliver what was promised before, even at a primitive level.
If the Dev can manage that much, we can build from there?

I would love to let my imagination run wild, and suggest all sorts of things.
But the basics might be the best thing to hope for (at first).
Done right.

Maybe there are better ideas out there?? Other approaches? What do you want from the dev?

A crazy idea could be, set up ESC as the main coin and set a relation between the others (1 ESC = x LOL or x CSO), when somebody place a bet, they do it in ESC, and wallet manage to exchange to LOL for a League of Legends games or CSO if it is Counter Strike. This will avoid ppl thinking in different coins. What do you think?

ESC is a good name because it can contain both LoL and CSO (esports) under one roof (and possibly further games). Also , ESC got working bet system on wallet already

There are a few successful community took over coin and we should work over that.

[chinchs]

We may try to add Minerals for SC 2

[StormTheFront]

A crazy idea could be, set up ESC as the main coin and set a relation between the others (1 ESC = x LOL or x CSO), when somebody place a bet, they do it in ESC, and wallet manage to exchange to LOL for a League of Legends games or CSO if it is Counter Strike. This will avoid ppl thinking in different coins. What do you think?

That is a pretty crazy idea

I am kind of partial to the traditional idea, that making that switch otherwise requires trading on the market.
That trading back and forth helps to stimulate all of the markets.
Which is great for investors.

However, what you propose does provide an insane level of convenience for the user.
Being able to place a bet in a Counter-Strike game with LOL coins...
and having the server convert and place your bet in the CSO coins equivelant...
then still pay you out in LOL coins??

I can't see many other ways to do all of that, without using the market to make all those coin swaps Sounds like an excellent feature to aim for!!


*edit*: I suppose the only concern, is that may take away from the unique nature of having 3 separate coins. Something to consider. But I still like that idea creative!

*edit2*: that has to easily be a one million dollar idea. Right there.   This is the kind of stuff the old Dev had no use for?? and ignored when it was offered?? smRt guy. jeanyuz.

[solid12345]

Another option might be a proof-of-burn or something for CSO and LOL to convert to ESC.

[StormTheFront]

Another option might be a proof-of-burn or something for CSO and LOL to convert to ESC.

That is assuming that ESC is not dead. Which it is. News flash!

Nobody is going to "Proof-of-Burn" their LOL coins for CSO coins are they?
Just as little point in doing the same LOL -> ESC.
Or any other combination.
3 scam coins, are still 3 scam coins... even if you boil them down to one super scam coin.

The only intelligent way of doing that, is to create a 4th coin legitimately.
Then do your "Proof-of-Burn" black magic to all 3 old coins including ESC.

That is a whole lot of work, to get a very tiny amount of investor money back.
Literally, this guys scam was so pathetic, that it will not take much to reach those levels again. Probably double those numbers, in very little time, with any actual development that doesn't get the lights shut off after 1 month.



Sticking with all 3 coins is the best course of action to recoup investors losses. It also opens the doors to possibilities like the cross-betting coinswap suggested earlier

[waxo]

things are moving.....but where is the ESC dev ?

[StormTheFront]

things are moving.....but where is the ESC dev ?

Oh shit.... dude..... you need to do a whole bunch of reading catch up time.

the ESC dev, is the same dev as the LOL and CSO dev.
He scammed everyone.
He did the same to ESC as he did to LOL.

No offense intended, and not to be rude, but if you want to discuss that prick or the "old" ESC..... then we politely request that you do that in his thread.
The one that he locked.



This thread is here to clean up his mess. And attempt to recoup the losses inflicted upon investors who did not get out in time.
All 3 coins suffered the same fate, at the same hands, and so all 3 communities are being brought together.
To find a way forward.

[wtman]

My vote is for combining 3 into one.

[thefrog]

My vote is for combining 3 into one.

And who would / how would you set the exchange rate between them ?

[chinchs]

My vote is for combining 3 into one.

And who would / how would you set the exchange rate between them ?

maybe something like:

x / (amount of coins - premine)

You can normalize the value of the coin

[StormTheFront]

My vote is for combining 3 into one.

I get the appeal. I do.
But I am not sure you people are understanding the logic behind this.
There are absolutely no benefits to burning a new coin.

Why waste a perfectly good new coin?
At that rate, we would be better off starting fresh.
Leaving everyone behind, and letting you all invest in the new coin all over again.
The point here is to recoup your losses. From the old coins.

So say you do create a 4th coin all legitimate like, then you go and Proof-of-Burn 3 other scam coins into that one coin.
You are dealing with 3 totally different maximum coin levels.
Whatever your math, it will be a pain in the arse deciding who gets how much and why, and you will have to increase the maximum coin count for sure.
Some people burn in, others are long gone... so then your numbers are fudged even further.
Now what do you have?
An over-bloated and unstable mess, that you still can't get anyone to buy into.

So what happens, if unforeseen and uncontrollable problems arise.... and the 4th coin crashes hard, once again burning all investors?? the ones we were trying to help.
Are you going to suggest that we start a 5th coin?
So we can save the 4th coin, that was sent in to save the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st coins?

The whole idea was to clean up mess. Not create a new mess.

What benefit do you see to creating a new coin and burning all 3 into 1? How will that help recoup investor losses, or progress the aim of these coins?

[thefrog]

My vote is for combining 3 into one.

I get the appeal. I do.
But I am not sure you people are understanding the logic behind this.
There are absolutely no benefits to burning a new coin.

Why waste a perfectly good new coin?
At that rate, we would be better off starting fresh.
Leaving everyone behind, and letting you all invest in the new coin all over again.
The point here is to recoup your losses. From the old coins.

So say you do create a 4th coin all legitimate like, then you go and Proof-of-Burn 3 other scam coins into that one coin.
You are dealing with 3 totally different maximum coin levels.
Whatever your math, it will be a pain in the arse deciding who gets how much and why, and you will have to increase the maximum coin count for sure.
Some people burn in, others are long gone... so then your numbers are fudged even further.
Now what do you have?
An over-bloated and unstable mess, that you still can't get anyone to buy into.

So what happens, if unforeseen and uncontrollable problems arise.... and the 4th coin crashes hard, once again burning all investors?? the ones we were trying to help.
Are you going to suggest that we start a 5th coin?
So we can save the 4th coin, that was sent in to save the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st coins?

The whole idea was to clean up mess. Not create a new mess.

What benefit do you see to creating a new coin and burning all 3 into 1? How will that help recoup investor losses, or progress the aim of these coins?

+1

We should concentrate to make each of the coins valuable. And I am not strictly speaking in terms of fiat money. More like find use for the coin.

Like for CSO, I really liked the idea to have a wallet, there you can start a PvP match with live betting. And winning team takes the pot. Splits it then proportionally between members.

That would make the coin usable, and give it value.

I don't want to exchange crypto to fiat first, to have some use of it. I want to use crypto.

[wtman]

Just make total coins of new coin = total number of coins in current 3 coins

Then premine coins and offer everyone the right amount of new coins. Maybe just merge all 3 into just esports coin.

Easier to work on one than three. Less work. 3 communities combine into one. Better focus on one instead of three

[StormTheFront]

+1

We should concentrate to make each of the coins valuable. And I am not strictly speaking in terms of fiat money. More like find use for the coin.

Like for CSO, I really liked the idea to have a wallet, there you can start a PvP match with live betting. And winning team takes the pot. Splits it then proportionally between members.

That would make the coin usable, and give it value.

+2

We need ideas coming in, and we need to hear what the community wants.
Some of those ideas won't get used.
But if you can explain yourself well enough, and others agree with your ideas.... then you are going to get heard.
Don't be discouraged.

Don't abuse that system either. Help it grow. Because the community is what should and will shape this project.



@thefrog
What you just said, is the exact aim here.
Increase the value of each coin, by giving it an actual use and making it attractive to investors again.
The best way to accomplish that, is like you said.
And those are the suggestions that any future Devs will need to hear... what features you all want, how the wallet should work, how we can make this better than the original plans, what should be first (etc)

Unless we hear any great explanation as to the benefit of burning a 4th coin, we should concentrate on the 3 we have and how to get value back in them.

[StormTheFront]

Easier to work on one than three. Less work. 3 communities combine into one. Better focus on one instead of three

Your math aside, because not many are going to agree no matter who makes that call.....

What you are suggesting is a cosmetic change that sounds great on paper.
Combine 3 into 1, and all you gotta do is work on one.
Except you just made it much more than 3 times harder to get any value for the original investors. Which is the entire point here.
We are not interested in handicapping our efforts.

By the time you go to all of that trouble, any rational person would just create a new coin and never look back.
Some people like to be paid for their time, instead of donating their time to others.
Everyone has their limits.

I will say this one last time.

If you were a Dev, and you were going to create a new coin, and someone said "Hey! why don't you include these 3 shitty scam coins, and ruin all of your chances at success?"
Then I hope you would say "No." for your own sake.
Very clearly, understand these words: someone is offering to help put value back into the coin you are bagholding for. They do not have to do that.

And since it is only the ESC crowd, who seem to think their coin is superior and should swallow all other coins..... don't forget, LOL has the highest maximum coin count.
If anything, we would be burning ESC into LOL. do you want that??
All 3 of these coins are equally worthless, and all 3 of these coins are equally dead.
Without the OP, and this thread, and this effort..... you would all be walking into the sunset holding your empty bags that are filled with your losses and your tears.
That could still happen.
Not out of the woods yet, that is for sure.

It has been explained to death that combining these coins makes recouping your losses more difficult for the Dev, adds no benefits whatsoever, creates more work, and handicaps the entire goal here.
Unless there is any new explanation as to how combining could help in any way...
Lets move on.

[wtman]

lol I am out of here

[StormTheFront]

lol I am out of here

Happy to have suggestions here.

Don't need the same one suggested without explaining any benefit whatsoever.
Discussion is welcome.
As much as we need a community, we also need focus.

[StormTheFront]

UPDATE 2

THIS is what we need to concentrate on.  If those markets die, then there will be no development.  All investor funds will be lost for good.

For the cost of a few dollars, you can help stimulate the market enough to keep it alive.
If it stays alive we have a chance.
If we succeed, and you bought some CSO today for 70 satoshi..... then you might expect to see a tiny bit of profit from that. (by tiny I mean HUGE.)
Or sell it again. Keep your margins tight and stimulate it twice!

We are still way too close to the line, and total failure in the next 2 days is very possible.
Please help by stimulating the markets for both LOL and CSO.
Increase trade volume.
By any means necessary!!!

LOL - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-LOL
CSO - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CSO

[BTCMS]

The same happened with summercoin (SUM). A new developer stepped up and changed it into SUM2 and later NAV and we've seen the succes of that. So might be an idea contacting him, perhaps make a communityfund to reward him.

[StormTheFront]

The same happened with summercoin (SUM). A new developer stepped up and changed it into SUM2 and later NAV and we've seen the succes of that. So might be an idea contacting him, perhaps make a communityfund to reward him.

Not a bad idea.
Might be worth the OP contacting this guy, and looking into the past of his project.

At the very least he may have knowledge that proves invaluable!!



It does also further to prove my point though. They are on coin #3 now? They only had 1 coin to save.
So we need around #9 or so, to save all 3 of ours??  
That is a lot of work.

I have not seen the success of that one, but I do believe you.
What you say makes it worth looking into.
But I still think we are better off sticking with the 3 coins that we have. Trying to increase each of their value.
Maybe this guy can help with that.
Who knows.


If anyone can find any scam coins that have been raised from the dead.... please bring them to the attention of the OP!!
These examples can prove very useful.
No matter what route they took to get the job done.
These sort of examples may lead to the type of people that can assist with this effort.

[BTCMS]

The same happened with summercoin (SUM). A new developer stepped up and changed it into SUM2 and later NAV and we've seen the succes of that. So might be an idea contacting him, perhaps make a communityfund to reward him.

Not a bad idea.
Might be worth the OP contacting this guy, and looking into the past of his project.

At the very least he may have knowledge that proves invaluable!!



It does also further to prove my point though. They are on coin #3 now? They only had 1 coin to save.
So we need around #9 or so, to save all 3 of ours??  
That is a lot of work.

I have not seen the success of that one, but I do believe you.
What you say makes it worth looking into.
But I still think we are better off sticking with the 3 coins that we have. Trying to increase each of their value.
Maybe this guy can help with that.
Who knows.

No, it started with SUM being a scam. The new dev created SUM2 which had the same features but with less coins. SUM coins could be traded in for SUM2. He later added anon technology called NAVAJO and in order to make the uniqueness of that feature more clear, SUM2 got a name change into NAV. He honestly was one of the best developers I have seen in crypto. extremely active and competent.

[StormTheFront]

No, it started with SUM being a scam. The new dev created SUM2 which had the same features but with less coins. SUM coins could be traded in for SUM2. He later added anon technology called NAVAJO and in order to make the uniqueness of that feature more clear, SUM2 got a name change into NAV. He honestly was one of the best developers I have seen in crypto. extremely active and competent.

Figured one of those might be a name change for SUM reason. or two?
Sorry. I had to.

Sounds great to me so far.
Definitely things to be learned from that coin and it's situation. Regardless.
the Dev who took over sounds amazing.

I am sure something good will come of looking up all that history, and contacting that Dev. For advice at the very least.

[riosober]

The LOL's wallet source on github.com was deleted by dev,everybody never had seen that?
Anyone have a copy of LOL's wallet source for some devs continue to do anything  on the LOL coin?

[StormTheFront]

The LOL's wallet source on github.com was deleted by dev,everybody never had seen that?
Anyone have a copy of LOL's wallet source for some devs continue to do anything  on the LOL coin?

Yup.
All three coins had their threads closed.
All three had their source code removed from GitHub.
The old Dev did everything he could to "cover his tracks". The fact that everyone can still see the remains of those tracks, is a testament to how well he did.

I wouldn't worry too much

[baby222]

 three game coins , nice ,

[teamlottowin]

I still have my ESC .. let's turn this around

[StormTheFront]

UPDATE 2

Both LOL and CSO are now over 1 BTC trade in the last week!
It is too close to call.
But if this trend continues, we WILL be able to pull this off!
Lets take back this market!

Only 12 hours left.

Our trade volume has fallen from over 1.1 BTC all the way down to 0.1 BTC or less.
That is both LOL and CSO.
That is not good at all, and could spell the end of the market tomorrow.

We need one last push before August 15th when those markets are scheduled to be taken down.
If we don't raise the trade volume, then it is lights out.

You can make the difference! We are very close.

LOL - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-LOL
CSO - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CSO

[StormTheFront]

Only 12 hours left.

You can make the difference! We are very close.

Somewhere around 4 hours left now....

CSO is seeing some movement @ 0.525 BTC trade volume.
LOL is crumbling however, only @ 0.036 BTC trade volume.



Please get in there while you are still able to. If you believe in this effort, there is profit to be made by backing it right now.
LOL - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-LOL
CSO - https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CSO

Without a market these coins will be dead for keeps. Overnight.
If you buy a small amount, at dirt cheap prices, to show your support for continued development.... then you will save the market.
It won't take much to double these low prices one day very soon.
Need a market for that.

[StormTheFront]

Past the point of no return now.... it could be any time in the next 24 hours.
Too close to call.
But both markets are showing serious signs of improvement!


ESC is flat-lining. Hard.   (thankfully, not at risk of de-list this week)
Hang in there!
Keep the hope alive. Do not dump now.
Your market will soon be facing the same problem in the coming week or two.
Get an early start.
Keep your market alive too, by keeping the trade volume up!!


*everyone cross your fingers*

[StormTheFront]

Still no change

Markets are still up!!
But so is the warning message about de-listing on August 15th.

Anticipation is killing me.
As is the price of BTC
Lets all hope that good things are on the horizon

[riosober]

donate 1000.01 LOL to :  LbJVhibdxTfp627RB9HYehmY9gVVJzguHH , Hope it is helpful for LOL&CSO .

[BTCMS]

If there is no new dev, all coins will die.

[StormTheFront]

If there is no new dev, all coins will die.

If you meant that without "DEVELOPMENT" these coins will die..... then I invite you to read the thread that you are currently in. As that is the topic of this thread.
The OP sort of discusses that part just a little bit.
Or maybe you meant that: "Without a Dev, all coins SHOULD have died. Except they did not. thanks to the OP."

Let us not understate the importance of the milestone we just hit.
Your LOL & CSO coins should all be worth ZERO satoshi right now.
ESC would be next, within a week or two max.
We have all avoided that fate.
Successfully.

You may not have a tangible "Dev" to believe in. Not YET.
But what you do have, is an OP who has proven how dedicated he is to salvaging these coins.
He has now delivered.
If not development, he has delivered you all from the clutches of pure evil.

I am not sure about the rest of you, but when those 3 threads were closed, it was obvious to me that Development was over.
Never going to happen again. Ever.
Now you have someone who is promising you that Development is going to happen again, and he is drawing up plans to make it happen, and he is including you in the process (something the old Dev NEVER did)....

... and you want to complain that not enough is happening? honestly.

Personally, I know what I would choose, given the choice between:
what the old Dev still has planned for these coins, what the new OP has planned for these coins, and what you have planned for these coins yourself.
Before you complain that the OP is not doing enough....
I must ask, what have you contributed to saving these coins? How much Development have you secured? and/or paid for? where is your thread so I can join it?
What has already been accomplished here, did not happen by mistake.
Nor was it pure luck.
Somebody out there has been putting in effort to get us this far.
And they are not done yet.


I, for one, appreciate that my coins still have some value. And some hope. Thank You OP!!
Rather than focus on the negatives, why not take a look around at all the positives that should not exist (but do anyways).
This thread needs hope. This thread needs community. This thread needs positive action.

Allow me to rephrase your post:

without true hope and positive contributions from the community, all coins will die.

That is not on any Dev (Past, present, or future) That is on all of us.

[birdonwheels5]

If there is no new dev, all coins will die.

If you meant that without "DEVELOPMENT" these coins will die..... then I invite you to read the thread that you are currently in. As that is the topic of this thread.
The OP sort of discusses that part just a little bit.
Or maybe you meant that: "Without a Dev, all coins SHOULD have died. Except they did not. thanks to the OP."

Let us not understate the importance of the milestone we just hit.
Your LOL & CSO coins should all be worth ZERO satoshi right now.
ESC would be next, within a week or two max.
We have all avoided that fate.
Successfully.

You may not have a tangible "Dev" to believe in. Not YET.
But what you do have, is an OP who has proven how dedicated he is to salvaging these coins.
He has now delivered.
If not development, he has delivered you all from the clutches of pure evil.

I am not sure about the rest of you, but when those 3 threads were closed, it was obvious to me that Development was over.
Never going to happen again. Ever.
Now you have someone who is promising you that Development is going to happen again, and he is drawing up plans to make it happen, and he is including you in the process (something the old Dev NEVER did)....

... and you want to complain that not enough is happening? honestly.

Personally, I know what I would choose, given the choice between:
what the old Dev still has planned for these coins, what the new OP has planned for these coins, and what you have planned for these coins yourself.
Before you complain that the OP is not doing enough....
I must ask, what have you contributed to saving these coins? How much Development have you secured? and/or paid for? where is your thread so I can join it?
What has already been accomplished here, did not happen by mistake.
Nor was it pure luck.
Somebody out there has been putting in effort to get us this far.
And they are not done yet.


I, for one, appreciate that my coins still have some value. And some hope. Thank You OP!!
Rather than focus on the negatives, why not take a look around at all the positives that should not exist (but do anyways).
This thread needs hope. This thread needs community. This thread needs positive action.

Allow me to rephrase your post:

without true hope and positive contributions from the community, all coins will die.

That is not on any Dev (Past, present, or future) That is on all of us.

Well put, stormthefront.

[StormTheFront]

Well put, stormthefront.

Thanks
don't mean to sound to harsh with all that, but we can't rely on some mythological creature to save us.
We need to build a strong community.
And all pitch in.
Long before we can expect someone to show up and do that for us.

We are all here for the same reason.
We love the games we play.
We want to bet on them.
And we all got scammed investing in that dream.

Let us discuss turning that shattered dream into a reality, and how we can best accomplish that!!
Let us at least discuss the games themselves!!

Meet one another. Shake your neighbors hand. Play some LOL with them Be merry

[BTCMS]

If there is no new dev, all coins will die.

If you meant that without "DEVELOPMENT" these coins will die..... then I invite you to read the thread that you are currently in. As that is the topic of this thread.
The OP sort of discusses that part just a little bit.
Or maybe you meant that: "Without a Dev, all coins SHOULD have died. Except they did not. thanks to the OP."

Let us not understate the importance of the milestone we just hit.
Your LOL & CSO coins should all be worth ZERO satoshi right now.
ESC would be next, within a week or two max.
We have all avoided that fate.
Successfully.

You may not have a tangible "Dev" to believe in. Not YET.
But what you do have, is an OP who has proven how dedicated he is to salvaging these coins.
He has now delivered.
If not development, he has delivered you all from the clutches of pure evil.

I am not sure about the rest of you, but when those 3 threads were closed, it was obvious to me that Development was over.
Never going to happen again. Ever.
Now you have someone who is promising you that Development is going to happen again, and he is drawing up plans to make it happen, and he is including you in the process (something the old Dev NEVER did)....

... and you want to complain that not enough is happening? honestly.

Personally, I know what I would choose, given the choice between:
what the old Dev still has planned for these coins, what the new OP has planned for these coins, and what you have planned for these coins yourself.
Before you complain that the OP is not doing enough....
I must ask, what have you contributed to saving these coins? How much Development have you secured? and/or paid for? where is your thread so I can join it?
What has already been accomplished here, did not happen by mistake.
Nor was it pure luck.
Somebody out there has been putting in effort to get us this far.
And they are not done yet.


I, for one, appreciate that my coins still have some value. And some hope. Thank You OP!!
Rather than focus on the negatives, why not take a look around at all the positives that should not exist (but do anyways).
This thread needs hope. This thread needs community. This thread needs positive action.

Allow me to rephrase your post:

without true hope and positive contributions from the community, all coins will die.

That is not on any Dev (Past, present, or future) That is on all of us.

I apologize that my post comes over as purely negative. I merely meant that keeping volume alive isn't enough.However a community will only be formed around strong leadership. I've send the op the username of a dev who has taken over coins before and I very much appreciate there is someone who takes the time and effort to possibly revive these coins.

[StormTheFront]

I apologize that my post comes over as purely negative. I merely meant that keeping volume alive isn't enough.However a community will only be formed around strong leadership. I've send the op the username of a dev who has taken over coins before and I very much appreciate there is someone who takes the time and effort to possibly revive these coins.

That's what I meant by I hope it didn't sound to harsh
I can tell you didn't mean anything horrible by saying it, but I could tell how anyone walking into our thread would perceive that comment too.
That's a deathnail statement right there. lol.

Gotta keep the hope alive!
The OP is doing everything he can, so we should do everything we can too!

Honestly, we can do more as a community. So lets

[deaconxxx]

We can ask the dev to sell the web sites and hire someone to develop it to the end. After we have this ready we can grow it. We should market it to the gamers community to use it. We just need the right people.

[StormTheFront]

We can ask the dev to sell the web sites and hire someone to develop it to the end. After we have this ready we can grow it. We should market it to the gamers community to use it. We just need the right people.

the old Dev is uncooperative.
We would have to hire someone to start over with new websites.
That won't be cheap, but it could be done

We should do whatever we possibly can now, to start growing our community.
So we are ready when something that big does happen
There are some things we can do now, to get the momentum started.

We just need the right people.

+1
agreed.

[deaconxxx]

We can ask the dev to sell the web sites and hire someone to develop it to the end. After we have this ready we can grow it. We should market it to the gamers community to use it. We just need the right people.

the old Dev is uncooperative.
We would have to hire someone to start over with new websites.
That won't be cheap, but it could be done

We should do whatever we possibly can now, to start growing our community.
So we are ready when something that big does happen
There are some things we can do now, to get the momentum started.

We just need the right people.

+1
agreed.

This is true, but I think that we can have some problems with trademarks or something if we just use the same name and develop on our own without permission from the old Dev. The main problem will be that at for this moment it will be very hard to find him

[deaconxxx]

I can try to find a web site developer to help us. Is there someone who is interested to invest some money in such kind of project?

[xucc2012]

Yes, we just need the right people and i think we can learn from GLC.

[StormTheFront]

This is true, but I think that we can have some problems with trademarks or something if we just use the same name and develop on our own without permission from the old Dev. The main problem will be that at for this moment it will be very hard to find him

No. It will be hard to find the old Dev..... forever. He is gone. Not coming back.

I have news regarding trademarks and legal issues involving the games creators, but I will wait until it is ready to deliver.
Regardless, that is an obstacle that can and will be overcome.
One way or another.
If you were referring in anyway to a trademark the old Dev may have.... my response is: LOL

I can try to find a web site developer to help us.

Please bring anyone you can find to the attention of the OP

Is there someone who is interested to invest some money in such kind of project?

You have to take into consideration the scope of the effort you are suggesting.
It is definitely not a bad idea.
But not a cheap one either. And most people here are already invested up to their eyeballs.
Looking for a way to get that money out, not pour heaps more back in.
Can't blame them at this stage.

What you are suggesting requires webhosting for starters. BTC upfront, and more BTC per month.
You need to pay at least one Developer, possibly even a small team. BTC BTC BTC
These are only basic costs.
By the time you finish that much, there will certainly be more things that popup along the way.
And more after that.

NOBODY wants to invest that much money to save themselves. Not in one go that's for sure.

There are only two answers to that equation, and I would safely assume that we will require both to solve our problem.
1) donations.
We won't make it unless we start to build up a donation fund to help pay for some Development.
Nobody can afford to donate what we need.
But if everyone pitched in a very small amount of BTC it does add up quickly. We need BTC funds, because some people will not work for anything else.

We also need donations of LOL, CSO, ESC.
These are nearly worthless right now, and scraping off a small amount from the top of your bag, just might be the donation that saves the rest of your bag
If we are lucky, some Developers might agree to work in exchange for these currencies.
This is ideal, because then they will have extra incentive to see our coins succeed once again!!

We won't make it without donations.


2) volunteers.
What we lack in donations we need to make up for in volunteers.
This could come in many forms.
If anyone in our community has ANY skills that they can offer, Please contact the OP immediately.
If you know anyone, a friend of a friend, or some guy you heard of, that might volunteer their time and skills to help, Please tell the OP.
If you have heard of coins in similar situations, with a "new" Dev that saved the coin and it's investors, Please tell the OP.
But it is not just Developers that we need to volunteer.

If anyone is willing to donate their time, in any capacity, please do so!
The community has more to offer than donations.
Even though those do help too.
Get involved There is lots that can be done by each and every one of us

[jw_industry]

is the game out soon?

[StormTheFront]

is the game out soon?

League of Legends, Counter-Strike, and the rest of the games that these coins are based around, are all released and currently available to purchase.
Look for them at retail or online, from their respective distributors.



EDIT**
Not sure about LOL, but you can find some places to buy STEAM games (such as CounterStrike:GO) or wallet $$, using your BTCitcoins!!
https://steambitshop.com/
http://steamgamesbtc.com/

[chinchs]

is the game out soon?

League of Legends, Counter-Strike, and the rest of the games that these coins are based around, are all released and currently available to purchase.
Look for them at retail or online, from their respective distributors.



EDIT**
Not sure about LOL, but you can find some places to buy STEAM games (such as CounterStrike:GO) or wallet $$, using your BTCitcoins!!
https://steambitshop.com/
http://steamgamesbtc.com/

League of legends is free to play, you need to put money to get goodies like skins, or points to buy something (skins aside, you can get almost everything just playing and earning points.)

[StormTheFront]

League of legends is free to play, you need to put money to get goodies like skins, or points to buy something (skins aside, you can get almost everything just playing and earning points.)

shows how little I know about LOL

ACE
That removes any barriers on that one.
What are we all waiting for?? Let's get playing some games!

League of Legends
https://signup.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/
or
https://steambitshop.com/?page=item&id=57




who plays what? lets get some matches going and meet our neighbors

[deaconxxx]

Guys, I tried to find a Dev for the web site but without a chance. We need to use an escrow for the BTC donation address. When we use BTC, and we want a donation for making our project, people should have trust in us, and without escrow, this cannot be done. After that we will know our budget.
This should be our next step. What do you think?

Cheers!

[StormTheFront]

Guys, I tried to find a Dev for the web site but without a chance. We need to use an escrow for the BTC donation address. When we use BTC, and we want a donation for making our project, people should have trust in us, and without escrow, this cannot be done. After that we will know our budget.
This should be our next step. What do you think?

Cheers!

+1

Nobody will donate BTC without an Escrow.
Or someway to trust that their donation will be used appropriately.
Transparency is not enough.
The community needs to maintain control of those funds, and set criteria to be met before it's use.

No reason to Escrow LOL/CSO/ESC funds, it is just not worth the Escrow fees.



However,
It would be nice to not pay any Escrow fees, and still have near the same protection..... if anyone has any ideas there.....
Otherwise we should look into finding a trustworthy Escrow.
(i.e. NOT one who follows every scam in town, and has zero morals and zero conscience.... come to think of it, we are better off with NO Escrow, than the thief who Escrowed these coins previously.)
Someone should call out "the Hero member" who sold you all up shit creek
Pretty obvious by now how crooked he is.
So lets not forget, even an Escrow is not 100% safety guaranteed, only fees to be paid guaranteed.


thoughts? discussion? ideas?




**EDIT** we need a multi-key wallet, with like 20 or 30 keys that requires a 2/3 majority vote to unlock
This is an untapped market for some genius out there
Democracy based community wallets.
On a much larger scale than 3 parties, with more features to support the nature of it.

[Adamis]

games coin..LOL CS 

[StormTheFront]

games coin..LOL CS 

That is right

There is some history here (all written in the OP), and because of it the online betting system is currently down.
As expected, coins are dirt cheap right now!!

We are doing everything we can to remedy the situation, and bring betting back as quick as we can.
In the meantime, pick up some coins and play some matches!

Welcome to the community!

[Jenniss]

games coin..LOL CS 

That is right

There is some history here (all written in the OP), and because of it the online betting system is currently down.
As expected, coins are dirt cheap right now!!

We are doing everything we can to remedy the situation, and bring betting back as quick as we can.
In the meantime, pick up some coins and play some matches!

Welcome to the community!

i like CS1.5

[Marmelaada]

reserved

[StormTheFront]

Welcome to the community!

i like CS1.5

I am a CS:GO man now. Reluctantly. It is the most neutered version of all time I admit.
BUT
it is great for competitive online tournaments!
5v5 matches
current anti-cheat technology
Everything about this latest version "Global Offensive" is all about competitive play, over friendly matches and customization.

However you do make a great point!!!
because:
CS 1.5 is the greatest version of all time, and always will be.
plus IT IS FREE!!
And to the best of my knowledge Valve does not hold half as much ownership over that version, as they do over any version post 1.6


The biggest issue with 1.5 however, is how excessively exploited it is.   I am not sure that I would wager any money on 1.5, unless it was a private LAN match.


CS:GO is only $15, so if you are any good at it, you can win your money back yeah I said it
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/
or
https://steambitshop.com/?page=item&id=57

[StormTheFront]

I'm a League of Legends player. Anyone wanna challenge me for 1500LOL?

I don't LOL. lol. maybe I should learn to.

I will however match this challenge..... on CcounterStrike:Global Offensive.
If anyone wants to get a CS tournament happening early, I will place a 1500 CSO entry per player on the 1st match.
Winning team takes the cake.
Post to join.

[yellowduck2]

Follow us on Twitter for the upcoming announcements! https://twitter.com/CSOLOLESC

Good

[deaconxxx]

Hello guys hope you are doing well. Can someone who is having more experience тo check this coin out. The idea is the same as with our scam coins - e-sports betting. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667866.0

Is it the same dev or not

[Reflop]

No the guys behind CCB is not a scammer. I know him a bit and it's the 1rst time he create a coin.

His coin proposal is to swap some deadcoin in exchange of CCB. 32 currencie will be selected for the swap.
I have already voted for Leaguecoin, but we could massively vote for the 3 currencies here if you think its a good solution to transfert the gaming community to this one.

[StormTheFront]

I don't LOL. lol. maybe I should learn to.

I will however match this challenge..... on CcounterStrike:Global Offensive.
If anyone wants to get a CS tournament happening early, I will place a 1500 CSO entry per player on the 1st match.
Winning team takes the cake.
Post to join.

I'll accept your challenge! Time and place? 

OMG ROFL

Time: when we get 8 other guys who aren't scared of losing.

Place: on the internet sounds good to me? hahahahaha


Is there anyone else who wants to accept the challenge (and possibly help me wipe the floor with D1WEPN )

[StormTheFront]

No the guys behind CCB is not a scammer. I know him a bit and it's the 1rst time he create a coin.

His coin proposal is to swap some deadcoin in exchange of CCB. 32 currencie will be selected for the swap.
I have already voted for Leaguecoin, but we could massively vote for the 3 currencies here if you think its a good solution to transfert the gaming community to this one.

100% premine coin.

100% no way.

100% please request that LeagueCoin be removed from their voting. So the OP doesn't have to do it for you.


Do NOT take it upon yourself to make decisions for these coins without consulting the OP first.
Thanks.

[Reflop]

could you calm down please and inform yourself before spreading FUD.

premine is only 2 MM on 92 MM supply, and most of this 2 MM is locked for swaping coin.

"100% no way" is that some kind of argument?

mmh no You dont have to told me how I have to use my coin. If I prefer destroy them to get a better fresh currency, I will. If people here want to rebuild a community, they can too.
I was just proposing there a new way to revive the community.


And BTW if a lot of holder decide to destroy coins, it will increase the value to those wo keap it.

[yellowduck2]

No the guys behind CCB is not a scammer. I know him a bit and it's the 1rst time he create a coin.

His coin proposal is to swap some deadcoin in exchange of CCB. 32 currencie will be selected for the swap.
I have already voted for Leaguecoin, but we could massively vote for the 3 currencies here if you think its a good solution to transfert the gaming community to this one.

CCB will be a worthless coin. A coin that exchange for 32 shitcoin is really bad. Is like gathering of all shitcoin

[StormTheFront]

CCB will be a worthless coin. A coin that exchange for 32 shitcoin is really bad. Is like gathering of all shitcoin

+1
common sense.

a bunch of crying.

I am not arguing against a premined coin, simply because it is not worth my time.
We are not going that road.
Period.
I would appreciate you not derailing this thread, or these efforts.

Feel free to GTFO and go waste your coins on the only deal in town worse than this one.
This thread is for the discussion of LOL, CSO and ESC....... CCB is not on that list, take your discussion to their thread.

The few remaining legitimate holders of these currencies, destroying their coins, will hurt everyone else. Educate yourself.

[yellowduck2]

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

We have found a dev that will continue to develop all 3 coins! LOL,CSO & ESC!!
He is currently working on a new betting website for all 3 coins. Each with individual features!

New updates will be coming in fast so hold onto your coins. We're back baby!!

Good

[Reflop]

a bunch of crying.

I am not arguing against a premined coin, simply because it is not worth my time.
We are not going that road.
Period.
I would appreciate you not derailing this thread, or these efforts.

Feel free to GTFO and go waste your coins on the only deal in town worse than this one.
This thread is for the discussion of LOL, CSO and ESC....... CCB is not on that list, take your discussion to their thread.

The few remaining legitimate holders of these currencies, destroying their coins, will hurt everyone else. Educate yourself.

do you even see How you speak to the "Few remaining legitimate holders" ??
You want to keep them here that way ?

With someone like you speaking for the community, you are right I will GTFO.
I dont want you to waste more time with me, you dont need to reply but for the good of your PR, I suggest you to improve your communication skills.

GL  D1WEPN.

[StormTheFront]

We have found a dev that will continue to develop all 3 coins! LOL,CSO & ESC!!
He is currently working on a new betting website for all 3 coins. Each with individual features!

New updates will be coming in fast so hold onto your coins. We're back baby!!

Good

Good +2

a bunch more crying.

you are right I will GTFO.

Good +3

This day just keeps getting better



The writing is on the wall now. Cheap coins won't last long at market now. This is your chance to get in as low as it gets, and make guaranteed profit later.

Get in now, or GTFO like some people will soon regret.
Adios, and good riddance, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[waxo]

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

We have found a dev that will continue to develop all 3 coins! LOL,CSO & ESC!!
He is currently working on a new betting website for all 3 coins. Each with individual features!

New updates will be coming in fast so hold onto your coins. We're back baby!!

+1

i am siting on a nice ESC bag....
can you tell us more about you  dev ?
anyway, nice job , appreciate it !

[StormTheFront]

ATTENTION: all holders of LOL coin.

You may have noticed that unfortunately the LOL market has been de-listed over at Bittrex.
This was due to Low Trade Volume.
We almost made it, but fell just barely shy of the BTC volume goal.
As a result Bittrex pulled our beloved LOL coin down.     (CSO and ESC coins are not affected, and are still listed at Bittrex.)

There is absolutely no reason to panic

There is still one market up and running for LOL coin @ Poloniex.    
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_lol
For the time being, you will have to trade your coins there if you need to.
The best course of action, is to keep holding your coins while development is getting underway.

Luckily, Bittrex will NOT pull down the LOL wallets anytime soon.
That should take an absolute minimum of 2 weeks.
In practice, it usually takes them months before they do pull wallets. And they always do give plenty of notice.

In your shoes, I would keep my coins at Bittrex for the time being. Should be back up next week.
Or better yet, store them in a wallet, and get staking them!!
FREE coins, are never bad coins


I can assure you that we will be doing everything in our power to get Bittrex to re-list LOL within the next week or so.
Just as soon as we possibly can.
If you would like to help get LOL re-listed, the one thing that will change Bittrex's mind, is seeing a large amount of trade volume @ Poloniex.
Anything you can do, to increase trade volume at Poloniex this week, is appreciated





I am sure D1WEPN will be here shortly to address this too Just wanted to get the message out ASAP to prevent unnecessary panic It will get resolved.

[mmm01]

ill follow this at the very least. Is pod possible?

[StormTheFront]

Is pod possible?

Please explain

ill follow this at the very least.

Word to the wise, these coins won't get any cheaper
If you do plan to pick any up, might be a good idea to do it soon.

Development is underway now.
Once the websites go live, and more announcements are made..... you will be paying well above triple these prices and still getting in "Low".
The real profit starts here.
I suggested at one point that everyone wait before buying, until we hear more about Development.
That time has come.

[mmm01]

is the dev able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer?

http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/


No offence, but lots of devs/people maintaining a coin make claims that coins won't get cheaper and that development is underway. True if development is happening now is a good time to buy, but there's often claims of development on other coins only for people to be left holding bags when promised developments don't get delivered. Not saying that's you guys, but you can understand if I'm a little skeptical. People will say anything under the sun in the crypto community. But you guys seem honest enough. I'll take your advice and hold some of one coin, maybe a little of all three.

[deaconxxx]

We have a problem with ESC on Bittrex. They will remove the coin because of the low trade. How many people here does have ESC? we can make some trades with same price, just to keep the volume higher, without loosing coins and btc. Who is with me?

[StormTheFront]

is the dev able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer?

http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/


No offence, but lots of devs/people maintaining a coin make claims that coins won't get cheaper and that development is underway. True if development is happening now is a good time to buy, but there's often claims of development on other coins only for people to be left holding bags when promised developments don't get delivered. Not saying that's you guys, but you can understand if I'm a little skeptical. People will say anything under the sun in the crypto community. But you guys seem honest enough. I'll take your advice and hold some of one coin, maybe a little of all three.

I'm not sure you are familiar with the history of these coins

No. The Dev is NOT able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer.
In fact he downright refused to.
On several occasions.
Before he ran away.

The OP, has hired new developers (using money from his own pocket), in order to save these coins, and return value to the original investors.




Are you seriously suggesting that D1WEPN asks people that he hired, using money from his own pocket..... to take a "CryptoAsian Proof of Dev test" before they build our site for us?    
The ones he is paying to save all of you (original investors).
Because I'm not even going to respond to that unless I know you are serious, and that you do know what you are talking about when it comes to the history of these coins.

[mmm01]

Think you need to tone that messiah complex down until something actually happens

[StormTheFront]

Think you need to tone that messiah complex down until something actually happens

Something is already happening here. Because of me.

I think that is about the opposite of your statement.

If you are here just to cause problems {which you obviously are} try to find the door on your own

You have been ignored.

[brownmon]

is the dev able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer?

http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/


No offence, but lots of devs/people maintaining a coin make claims that coins won't get cheaper and that development is underway. True if development is happening now is a good time to buy, but there's often claims of development on other coins only for people to be left holding bags when promised developments don't get delivered. Not saying that's you guys, but you can understand if I'm a little skeptical. People will say anything under the sun in the crypto community. But you guys seem honest enough. I'll take your advice and hold some of one coin, maybe a little of all three.

1. How did PoD work out last time, for LeagueCoin?
2. How will PoD help you to know if there is much development going on?

[StormTheFront]

is the dev able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer?

http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/


No offence, but lots of devs/people maintaining a coin make claims that coins won't get cheaper and that development is underway. True if development is happening now is a good time to buy, but there's often claims of development on other coins only for people to be left holding bags when promised developments don't get delivered. Not saying that's you guys, but you can understand if I'm a little skeptical. People will say anything under the sun in the crypto community. But you guys seem honest enough. I'll take your advice and hold some of one coin, maybe a little of all three.

1. How did PoD work out last time, for LeagueCoin?
2. How will PoD help you to know if there is much development going on?

+1  QFT.

I will allow D1WEPN to field this question... so that my messiah complex doesn't get in the way LOL

Trolls will be trolls, that is all I have to say about that.
Don't try to understand them.
You will only hurt yourself.
Ignore button is there for a reason, and we just experienced that reason.

I could write a ten page essay explaining hundreds of reasons why POD does not apply here, but I didn't. Because troll.

[mmm01]

is the dev able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer?

http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/


No offence, but lots of devs/people maintaining a coin make claims that coins won't get cheaper and that development is underway. True if development is happening now is a good time to buy, but there's often claims of development on other coins only for people to be left holding bags when promised developments don't get delivered. Not saying that's you guys, but you can understand if I'm a little skeptical. People will say anything under the sun in the crypto community. But you guys seem honest enough. I'll take your advice and hold some of one coin, maybe a little of all three.

1. How did PoD work out last time, for LeagueCoin?
2. How will PoD help you to know if there is much development going on?

pod generally alleviates fud and it helps move/stabilize price for most coins that have pod done. It's seen as a sign that one has nothing to hide. Obviously it isn't a 100% guarantee, but it is true more people are being drawn to invest in coins like these if that means anything at all to you. Which is the only reason I suggested it as one way to help raise price and restore faith in these coins.

There's no way to know how much development is going on for any coin unless you're the one doing said development/development actually happens.

I wasn't here to make trouble. I just made an accurate statement. Ask yourself how many times you've held a coin that's on the verge of death until someone takes it over and makes an honest attempt to add developments or raise price only for it to fall flat. "Don't count your chickens before they hatch," is all I was saying and I was met with such hostility.

Now I'm here to cause trouble as storm would put it.

Think for yourselves who benefits the most from this takeover/rebranding/redevelopment of the coins. Obviously they hold a majority stake of one or maybe all of these coins so a revival is in their own best interest as well. Don't look at it as they are completely saving you. If they had close to no coins then there would be no point for them to start this back up. I guarantee they are major holders themselves. There is nothing wrong with this. If they do the work they should be rewarded for their efforts of course, but making it seem like you are the only ones that benefit is completely dishonest. Why else would a person say "buy these coins now" if they weren't sitting on some themselves and planning on selling what they accumulated after the price raises.

D1WEPN I think it would be better if you tell storm not to make any comments. Your friend doesn't seem to show the same politeness you do nor carry himself in a professional manner. Anyone with any suggestions or any opinions of their own gets shut down right away by him. It isn't good for any new investors interested in the coin that ask questions or make simple statements. You can look at reflops post as confirmation of this.

Storm you seem a bit slow in the head so I'll do you a favor and give you some more advice. Guess what? You need new investors to help move the price and isolating them when they ask questions or raise concerns isn't the way to get them. Force feeding I'm helping you, you should be grateful to me and buy more coins isn't a good way to go about things. Funny you say that something is happening because of you. Your statement before that contradicts it considering d1wpen is the one that paid for the dev out of pocket.

[mmm01]

typical everyone that doesn't confirm to your method of thought or understanding is a troll. Since I'm not buying as soon as you say buy and I'm asking questions I'm a troll. You could have given a simple no that's not possible as a response, you'll just have to trust that development is happening and left it at that. POD is a good move in gathering new investors. It isn't necessary by any means. There are plenty of coins that have thrived before pod became a thing and even currently. These coins might just be a case where pod isn't necessary and developments actually happen without applying for it. If you can't do it you can't do it. It's funny  because I called both of them honest and said I was going to buy. I even admitted he was right about the coins being cheap, but claiming they can't fall any lower is pretty dishonest. When it comes to crypto's coins die so frequently for so many different reasons, and it's even harder to revive a coin that has died or is on the verge of death. It isn't realistic to say these coins can't fall considering how hard it is to revive one coin much less three. I do commend you both for stepping up to the plate by yourselves and taking it upon yourselves, but I think it's clear to anyone looking at these post that you have a rotten attitude storm. Your shit stinks just as much as everyone else.

[mmm01]

is the dev able to go through cryptoasian's proof of developer?

http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/


No offence, but lots of devs/people maintaining a coin make claims that coins won't get cheaper and that development is underway. True if development is happening now is a good time to buy, but there's often claims of development on other coins only for people to be left holding bags when promised developments don't get delivered. Not saying that's you guys, but you can understand if I'm a little skeptical. People will say anything under the sun in the crypto community. But you guys seem honest enough. I'll take your advice and hold some of one coin, maybe a little of all three.

1. How did PoD work out last time, for LeagueCoin?
2. How will PoD help you to know if there is much development going on?

+1  QFT.

I will allow D1WEPN to field this question... so that my messiah complex doesn't get in the way LOL

Trolls will be trolls, that is all I have to say about that.
Don't try to understand them.
You will only hurt yourself.
Ignore button is there for a reason, and we just experienced that reason.

I could write a ten page essay explaining hundreds of reasons why POD does not apply here, but I didn't. Because troll.

Funny you should say that after erasing the edit post claiming that you are saving old investors asses right after I post you have a messiah complex. Wow what a coincidence? And if you are a new investor just shut up and put your money in the coin. Why take out the post edits hmm? did I troll that also. Or did you want to make your statement look better so you don't make a complete ass out of yourself? It's fine if you ignore me. Your responses and mine speak for themselves 

[StormTheFront]

Not quoting, only because of length.

Plenty of things in there I would love to respond to, but I am not going to bother with most of it.
The only reason to do so would be "defending" myself personally.
I don't see any need to do that.

I will fully admit, you made some excellent points in there.
And I am glad to, for once, read a well written out argument by somebody on these forums. Regardless, of how much I agree with any of it.
Touche.
You accomplished that much.
And proved you are not a troll, as I first suspected. I admit that.
Honestly, bravo!
We need more of that on these forums.

Still standing by the fact that POD is absolutely useless in this case, but I won't bother arguing with you over the reasons why even.
Not trying to cause more trouble for you.

I will respectfully leave you to discuss it with D1WEPN.
Instead of grinding any more gears with you.
You deserve that much after putting together a well thought out statement with at least some minor valid points.





I will lay out one fact however, I am not holding ANY of these coins from BEFORE we started this revival.
I sold my CSO coins well before that Dev even left town.
The ONLY coins I am holding, I bought from market at today's current prices like everyone else.
So think that one through again.
You may not be as bright as you have convinced yourself of.

You claim the only way we could have any interest in this is money? That is why  we bent over backwards to help people without receiving a penny for it right?
That is why we spent so long trying to convince people this was a scam in the first place?? because we gain what exactly?
And that is why we are paying from our own pockets, right? greed? (and yes, I did clarify several times that it is D1WEPN who is paying himself. I say us figuratively. I have contributed myself. But he is certainly paying the lions share. Even I am grateful for him doing that. And I am not stuck in this mess like most investors.)
I say because of me, because I am the one who brought everyone together, and organized this entire effort, and the one who continues to lay the groundwork for where this is heading in the long term.
While I did not pay the most, I have certainly put in my share of the effort.
The point is we have both done enough selfless shit that we don't need to be accused of being in it for the greed. Thanks.

I'll leave you to discuss this with someone who cares enough.

You have certainly made me think twice about even bothering to continue with this at all. Thanks for that. You just might get your wish.

Funny you should say that after erasing the edit post claiming that you are saving old investors asses right after I post you have a messiah complex. Wow what a coincidence? And if you are a new investor just shut up and put your money in the coin. Why take out the post edits hmm? did I troll that also. Or did you want to make your statement look better so you don't make a complete ass out of yourself? It's fine if you ignore me. Your responses and mine speak for themselves  

To clean the thread because I didn't think you would bother to come back.

Sometimes things ARE that simple. Get over yourself. lol.

[StormTheFront]

typical everyone that doesn't confirm to your method of thought or understanding is a troll. Since I'm not buying as soon as you say buy and I'm asking questions I'm a troll. You could have given a simple no that's not possible as a response, you'll just have to trust that development is happening and left it at that. POD is a good move in gathering new investors. It isn't necessary by any means. There are plenty of coins that have thrived before pod became a thing and even currently. These coins might just be a case where pod isn't necessary and developments actually happen without applying for it. If you can't do it you can't do it. It's funny  because I called both of them honest and said I was going to buy. I even admitted he was right about the coins being cheap, but claiming they can't fall any lower is pretty dishonest. When it comes to crypto's coins die so frequently for so many different reasons, and it's even harder to revive a coin that has died or is on the verge of death. It isn't realistic to say these coins can't fall considering how hard it is to revive one coin much less three. I do commend you both for stepping up to the plate by yourselves and taking it upon yourselves, but I think it's clear to anyone looking at these post that you have a rotten attitude storm. Your shit stinks just as much as everyone else.

I asked you very clearly if you were serious about wanting D1WEPN to request that Developers he hired out of pocket do your POD test before they develop our site for us within a few weeks from now.
Very clearly.
I told you POD is useless in this case and does not apply.
Also clearly.

I told you to buy for one simple reason, and one reason alone.
Because I did.
I have no problem suggesting that you do the same, because I am so confident, that is what I did with my money.
There is no salesman blood in these veins.
I cannot sell what I do not agree with in principle, and what I would not buy myself.
The only hope I have of drawing any new investors, is not by standing on a soapbox preaching.... it is only with the finished developed product released that I expect to draw any investors.
Not because of my awesome attitude.
Because we provide what people wanted, that being a working betting system like the one taken away.

I said (and believe me I would return the "Edits" just to make you happy if I had copies of them), I said that it is not possible for prices to go down from here "AND EVEN IF THEY DID YOU WILL NOT LOSE MUCH OF ANYTHING".
The reason I said that, is because it is true.
At 40 satoshi for a CSO coin, how much can you really even put in there? Even if you buy 1 million of them. Or all 4 million.
If you buy any normal, sane, amount.... you are spending pennies.
Maybe a couple dollars.
Granted that whoever holding them is not completely retarded, can see that prices are dropping, and sells them by 20 satoshi..... you've lost half of $5 maybe? Like I said.

I did not suggest that people buy up the cheap coins, so that I can sell the few coins I do hold, at dirt cheap +10 satoshi more.
My coins are getting sold AFTER the development(s) gets released.
The development that we are providing at no cost to anyone here to return value to their coins.... thus ummmm... saving their ass. Just like I said.
I'm not sure what else you would call that.




Honestly, stick to your POD argument. You at least made some points there that can be discussed. The only reason I didn't discuss it with you, is I literally did not believe you were serious. I did ask.

[deaconxxx]

Hello all,

We have now the same issue with CSO coin. Any help will be good in the next 5 days. Today I made some trades but please dont leave me alone

[chinchs]

Dev, you may drop a line to the minerals thread, dev abandon the coin, several users are working to takeover the coin, perhaps, we can join effors.

[deaconxxx]

Guys, these are your coins also It would be great if i can receive some help.

Thank you in advance!

[sempyper]

CSCoin TAKEOVER thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776282.new#new

[Penetrator10]

He is none dev he is a scamer watch this the same guy few days ago what he did  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=773931.new#new

[HotSwap]

Anyone have the source code for any of these? I will put up some a node/explorer/richlist.

[Penetrator10]

So i was right he make the same shit again.

[nanoprobe]

CSCoin TAKEOVER thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776282.new#new

Updated the OP 

Thread already locked, another thread started. LMAO!

[cryptoangel]

So i was right he make the same shit again.

Just leave them to it you cannot help them and then they will attack you.

Let them lose money.

[riosober]

He is none dev he is a scamer watch this the same guy few days ago what he did  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=773931.new#new

I think you are right!

[deaconxxx]

Dev, could you please update what is the status of the project?
Thanks

[waxo]

Dev, you may drop a line to the minerals thread, dev abandon the coin, several users are working to takeover the coin, perhaps, we can join effors.

yes let's try to attract him

[johnambush]

Dev, could you please update what is the status of the project?
Thanks

And remove that CSO "found new home = scam try"

[StormTheFront]

I have made the decision to end my time here.

It has come to my attention that there is less than half a dozen investors out there with any respect for what I am doing whatsoever.
As has been pointed out before, the lack of donations or any community spirit, has certainly had a toll on me.
Not one of you wants to play a single match of LOL.
Not one of you wants to play a single match of CounterStrike.
Without any involvement, donations, or even support from the community, I see no reason to continue.
Being heckled and accused by the very bagholders I am trying to help, has given me time and good reason to think.
thanks for that.

It would be an injustice to them, not to mention 2 exceptions to what I said above.
WAXO and DEACONXXX have both recently done MORE than their share to pitch in around here.
They each asked to help, doing any small task they could....
As a result...
If anyone out there is holding any ESC coins whatsoever, then you owe both of them a big Thank You. Even if you don't know it.
Without them there would be no ESC market anymore.
Worse, there would be no ESC network. Meaning you could not perform any transactions whatsoever.
Many things do happen behind the scenes.
but they are no less important because you can't watch every one of them in front of you.
If we had more community members like WAXO and DEACONXXX...
who help the cause instead of questioning it to death...
Then I would have gladly continued.

Considering the only coins I hold, I picked up at only 12 satoshi when this revival started...
there is literally no reason for me to force myself to do this.
I can find no reasons whatsoever to continue.
I had a dream and a vision of where to take this, but I can see clearly that my dream will never be a reality here.
Not under these conditions.
I have now sold the rest of my coins at a very small insignificant profit.

Some of the work I have done behind the scenes thus far, I will leave behind for the benefit of the community.
What I have been working on recently, which is unfinished and still a WiP, I choose to take with me.
And with that... I bid you all farewell.

Best of luck to all of you honest bagholders remaining out there. Stay strong.

I leave you in capable hands.
(Please refrain from shitting in them, they are the only hands left that do choose to feed you.)

[deaconxxx]

Is there a chance someone to update what is going on with this project?

[Dogstar12]

I'm interested in whats going on with this project too, only 1.3 Milllion coins on ESC , this coin have potential

[NoOne56]

My LOL wallet doesn't want to sync...any node ?

[waxo]

I have made the decision to end my time here.

It has come to my attention that there is less than half a dozen investors out there with any respect for what I am doing whatsoever.
As has been pointed out before, the lack of donations or any community spirit, has certainly had a toll on me.
Not one of you wants to play a single match of LOL.
Not one of you wants to play a single match of CounterStrike.
Without any involvement, donations, or even support from the community, I see no reason to continue.
Being heckled and accused by the very bagholders I am trying to help, has given me time and good reason to think.
thanks for that.

It would be an injustice to them, not to mention 2 exceptions to what I said above.
WAXO and DEACONXXX have both recently done MORE than their share to pitch in around here.
They each asked to help, doing any small task they could....
As a result...
If anyone out there is holding any ESC coins whatsoever, then you owe both of them a big Thank You. Even if you don't know it.
Without them there would be no ESC market anymore.
Worse, there would be no ESC network. Meaning you could not perform any transactions whatsoever.
Many things do happen behind the scenes.
but they are no less important because you can't watch every one of them in front of you.
If we had more community members like WAXO and DEACONXXX...
who help the cause instead of questioning it to death...
Then I would have gladly continued.

Considering the only coins I hold, I picked up at only 12 satoshi when this revival started...
there is literally no reason for me to force myself to do this.
I can find no reasons whatsoever to continue.
I had a dream and a vision of where to take this, but I can see clearly that my dream will never be a reality here.
Not under these conditions.
I have now sold the rest of my coins at a very small insignificant profit.

Some of the work I have done behind the scenes thus far, I will leave behind for the benefit of the community.
What I have been working on recently, which is unfinished and still a WiP, I choose to take with me.
And with that... I bid you all farewell.

Best of luck to all of you honest bagholders remaining out there. Stay strong.

I leave you in capable hands.
(Please refrain from shitting in them, they are the only hands left that do choose to feed you.)

i totaly agree with you man , thanx for the try anyway ,after these different scam i have been tired of all these shitty coins with a lots of promess and bullshit...

taking a coin how is almost dead is a hard task and of course you can not perform this alone from your side.

I have bought some ESC just before the dev disappear.

i left my wallet opened for the network so now i will close it and try to sell my ESC on Trex if someone want to buy it

Again Stormthefront, i appreciate your initiative  , but here some peoples don't care about the others and just ignore if  we want to help them...that's life

For the moment i am 100 % into Hyperstake with a serious and nice team ( presstab and davide latapie ) that's for why i was not very present in this revival thread .

Wich you good luck man !

[deaconxxx]

I think nobody works on this project 

[deaconxxx]

I am out.

[johnambush]

and cso has been delisted from bittrex

DEAD

[CryptoClubber]

Now you can swap your LOL against CCB