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November 26, 2014, 09:24:23 AM |
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OK thanks. So these funds have not been touched yet. I suppose there is still BTC available from the original offer (ICO) being used to pay expenses. The commitments on github clearly show that the tech-side of the coin(s) are very actively developed. I dont care if this done volountarily or paid by some ico, burned whatever thingy. However, this is no company with a marketing department here.Its open-source, bottom-up, grass-root (full stop). Marketing in crypto does only work on a community basis. I also think that the dev is part of the community but he is not responsable for this. Frankly, here is no community. If there ever was one its gone by now. We need to build a new one from the ground with very few, positive people who are luckily still sticking around. I am ready to work on this task. And you?
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November 26, 2014, 09:35:43 AM |
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Alright you want to have some hangout mega fest from the community and try and make some plans?
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November 26, 2014, 09:58:32 AM |
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Alright you want to have some hangout mega fest from the community and try and make some plans?
Not directly, I think we need many small projects like your puzzle, yings community token and those inquireies to merchants from different people. Then we communicate on it and help out each other. Hang out is also nice. We just need a good vibe here imo. The rest might come from intrinsic motivation of individuals.
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November 26, 2014, 11:57:20 AM Last edit: November 26, 2014, 12:08:29 PM by prophetx |
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OK thanks. So these funds have not been touched yet. I suppose there is still BTC available from the original offer (ICO) being used to pay expenses. The commitments on github clearly show that the tech-side of the coin(s) are very actively developed. I dont care if this done volountarily or paid by some ico, burned whatever thingy. However, this is no company with a marketing department here.Its open-source, bottom-up, grass-root (full stop). Marketing in crypto does only work on a community basis. I also think that the dev is part of the community but he is not responsable for this. Frankly, here is no community. If there ever was one its gone by now. We need to build a new one from the ground with very few, positive people who are luckily still sticking around. I am ready to work on this task. And you? the dev is responsible because he took money, and therefor has an obligation or needs to return that money if he is not using it. just because someone is by trade a "developer" does not preclude them from other responsibilities. particularly since that address is either owned by an individual or some other kind of entity. but clearly since none of that has been used and in the meantime viacoin has slipped in value, i can see where this project is going...and how much commitment it has... frankly i am at the stage where i feel the transaction was fraudulent.
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November 26, 2014, 03:08:18 PM |
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OK thanks. So these funds have not been touched yet. I suppose there is still BTC available from the original offer (ICO) being used to pay expenses. The commitments on github clearly show that the tech-side of the coin(s) are very actively developed. I dont care if this done volountarily or paid by some ico, burned whatever thingy. However, this is no company with a marketing department here.Its open-source, bottom-up, grass-root (full stop). Marketing in crypto does only work on a community basis. I also think that the dev is part of the community but he is not responsable for this. Frankly, here is no community. If there ever was one its gone by now. We need to build a new one from the ground with very few, positive people who are luckily still sticking around. I am ready to work on this task. And you? the dev is responsible because he took money, and therefor has an obligation or needs to return that money if he is not using it. just because someone is by trade a "developer" does not preclude them from other responsibilities. particularly since that address is either owned by an individual or some other kind of entity. but clearly since none of that has been used and in the meantime viacoin has slipped in value, i can see where this project is going...and how much commitment it has... frankly i am at the stage where i feel the transaction was fraudulent. I dont get you. Not long ago the notary was released. Now the devs work on custody chains. The implemenation of treechains in via will speed up tx/s which is usefull for projects like the clearinghouse ePeso token. There is blocktrust.org and this art authenfication project. I see no detailed fancy whitepapers, roadmaps and stuff. I also would like to see this cause it would bring new members in which is important for community growth. However, its secondary if the the named developments come up. btw: Viacoin has alot of commitment: as I can see there are 1173 commits https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/releases/tag/v0.10.5
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November 26, 2014, 03:52:45 PM |
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OK thanks. So these funds have not been touched yet. I suppose there is still BTC available from the original offer (ICO) being used to pay expenses. The commitments on github clearly show that the tech-side of the coin(s) are very actively developed. I dont care if this done volountarily or paid by some ico, burned whatever thingy. However, this is no company with a marketing department here.Its open-source, bottom-up, grass-root (full stop). Marketing in crypto does only work on a community basis. I also think that the dev is part of the community but he is not responsable for this. Frankly, here is no community. If there ever was one its gone by now. We need to build a new one from the ground with very few, positive people who are luckily still sticking around. I am ready to work on this task. And you? the dev is responsible because he took money, and therefor has an obligation or needs to return that money if he is not using it. just because someone is by trade a "developer" does not preclude them from other responsibilities. particularly since that address is either owned by an individual or some other kind of entity. but clearly since none of that has been used and in the meantime viacoin has slipped in value, i can see where this project is going...and how much commitment it has... frankly i am at the stage where i feel the transaction was fraudulent. Why not sell your coin then and go away? It's trading at almost 2x the ICO price.
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November 26, 2014, 04:05:51 PM |
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I think the point is that you cant see where the funds are being spent and that there could be a marketing team using some of the funds. Here is one way to look at how active developers are Viacoin is number 31 https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score
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November 26, 2014, 04:19:32 PM |
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I think the point is that you cant see where the funds are being spent and that there could be a marketing team using some of the funds. Here is one way to look at how active developers are Viacoin is number 31 https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_scoreyeah and also have a look at the total commits during the last four weeks.... Anyway, this is the XCH thread and I am looking forward to custody chains https://gist.github.com/btcdrak/54319cacc5ebfba18eb7btw, has anybody here an idea on how to approach marketing? That would be the first step before complaining that we have no funds for it. At least would it be more constructive in this way.
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November 26, 2014, 04:23:03 PM |
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I think the point is that you cant see where the funds are being spent and that there could be a marketing team using some of the funds. Here is one way to look at how active developers are Viacoin is number 31 https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_scoreyeah and also have a look at the total commits during the last four weeks.... Anyway, this is the XCH thread and I am looking forward to custody chains https://gist.github.com/btcdrak/54319cacc5ebfba18eb7btw, has anybody here an idea on how to approach marketing? That would be the first step before complaining that we have no funds for it. At least would it be more constructive in this way. I wonder if using the twitter viatip bot and sending a few via to a bunch if influential bitcoin and crypto coin folks would perhaps get some more attention for Via? I'm not sure, when you send a tip to someone can you send a message with it, like maybe a link to the Via thread or to the clearwallet?
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November 26, 2014, 04:32:59 PM |
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Maybe also a fun action would be to give via incentives for facebook users to create their own clearinghouse coins.
So we could give them a little xch once they created their own token which they could use to tip each other. "here, you have a bobbycoin. Thanks for your Sallycoin" Would be fun and maybe some fb users might get deeper into the subject. Tipping bots for such tokens would then also become useful.
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November 26, 2014, 05:00:34 PM |
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via or asset tipbot would be good who wants to program that?
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November 26, 2014, 05:15:35 PM |
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via or asset tipbot would be good who wants to program that?
I guess that (asset tipbot) would be a valid question for the devs.
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November 26, 2014, 05:20:07 PM |
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Maybe also a fun action would be to give via incentives for facebook users to create their own clearinghouse coins.
So we could give them a little xch once they created their own token which they could use to tip each other. "here, you have a bobbycoin. Thanks for your Sallycoin" Would be fun and maybe some fb users might get deeper into the subject. Tipping bots for such tokens would then also become useful.
Interesting, nice idea. But, to "tip" an asset they would need some Via for the tx fee. I think any asset tip bot is going to need people to also have a Via balance with them. Unless you are saying to get some marketing fees that this asset tip bot can use for the tx fees. Although, I guess the tips are really off blockchain, it's only deposit/withdraw that needs the fees. Seems changetip watches all the socials. Does anyone know if their code is open source? (I expect not).
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November 26, 2014, 06:25:56 PM |
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No I think the tipbots are kinda "central" and you only pay fees when you ask the tipbot to withdraw to your address doge tipbot is on github hold on dogetipbot is forked from this https://github.com/vindimy/altcointipbut I think that is only for reddit which would be a start asset tipping would be great and xcp or xdp do not have that right now
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November 26, 2014, 06:36:50 PM |
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No I think the tipbots are kinda "central" and you only pay fees when you ask the tipbot to withdraw to your address doge tipbot is on github hold on dogetipbot is forked from this https://github.com/vindimy/altcointipbut I think that is only for reddit which would be a start asset tipping would be great and xcp or xdp do not have that right now well, the community seems to see a value in asset tipbots. Btcdrak, whats your oppinion on this?
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November 26, 2014, 06:37:40 PM |
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No I think the tipbots are kinda "central" and you only pay fees when you ask the tipbot to withdraw to your address doge tipbot is on github hold on dogetipbot is forked from this https://github.com/vindimy/altcointipbut I think that is only for reddit which would be a start asset tipping would be great and xcp or xdp do not have that right now Hmm... maybe over the long weekend I'll take a look at the code and see what I can come up with. But, it would cost money to host this... perhaps it could run on a free/cheap VPS at first.
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November 26, 2014, 06:44:37 PM |
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I think you can find a digial ocean promocode that should get you one or two months free.
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November 26, 2014, 07:42:58 PM |
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I think you can find a digial ocean promocode that should get you one or two months free.
yeah, I think the funding is the last thing we should worry about. VIA/XCH will manage.
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November 26, 2014, 09:28:28 PM |
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OK thanks. So these funds have not been touched yet. I suppose there is still BTC available from the original offer (ICO) being used to pay expenses. The commitments on github clearly show that the tech-side of the coin(s) are very actively developed. I dont care if this done volountarily or paid by some ico, burned whatever thingy. However, this is no company with a marketing department here.Its open-source, bottom-up, grass-root (full stop). Marketing in crypto does only work on a community basis. I also think that the dev is part of the community but he is not responsable for this. Frankly, here is no community. If there ever was one its gone by now. We need to build a new one from the ground with very few, positive people who are luckily still sticking around. I am ready to work on this task. And you? the dev is responsible because he took money, and therefor has an obligation or needs to return that money if he is not using it. just because someone is by trade a "developer" does not preclude them from other responsibilities. particularly since that address is either owned by an individual or some other kind of entity. but clearly since none of that has been used and in the meantime viacoin has slipped in value, i can see where this project is going...and how much commitment it has... frankly i am at the stage where i feel the transaction was fraudulent. Why not sell your coin then and go away? It's trading at almost 2x the ICO price. and btc is trading at almost 50% of the price at that ICO time nice use of maths there buddy
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November 26, 2014, 09:38:52 PM |
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OK thanks. So these funds have not been touched yet. I suppose there is still BTC available from the original offer (ICO) being used to pay expenses. The commitments on github clearly show that the tech-side of the coin(s) are very actively developed. I dont care if this done volountarily or paid by some ico, burned whatever thingy. However, this is no company with a marketing department here.Its open-source, bottom-up, grass-root (full stop). Marketing in crypto does only work on a community basis. I also think that the dev is part of the community but he is not responsable for this. Frankly, here is no community. If there ever was one its gone by now. We need to build a new one from the ground with very few, positive people who are luckily still sticking around. I am ready to work on this task. And you? the dev is responsible because he took money, and therefor has an obligation or needs to return that money if he is not using it. just because someone is by trade a "developer" does not preclude them from other responsibilities. particularly since that address is either owned by an individual or some other kind of entity. but clearly since none of that has been used and in the meantime viacoin has slipped in value, i can see where this project is going...and how much commitment it has... frankly i am at the stage where i feel the transaction was fraudulent. I dont get you. Not long ago the notary was released. Now the devs work on custody chains. The implemenation of treechains in via will speed up tx/s which is usefull for projects like the clearinghouse ePeso token. There is blocktrust.org and this art authenfication project. I see no detailed fancy whitepapers, roadmaps and stuff. I also would like to see this cause it would bring new members in which is important for community growth. However, its secondary if the the named developments come up. btw: Viacoin has alot of commitment: as I can see there are 1173 commits https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/releases/tag/v0.10.5at the very least some of the funds should be used to incubate projects, i.e., bounties for people/businesses using some of this stuff, implementing it into app's etc who cares if we get tons of releases and no one is actually using it or building app's with it... the storj people give away coins for a ton of stuff, that is proper community engagement.... anyway.... you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink....
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