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August 15, 2014, 10:27:13 AM |
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Question 1: Has anyone verified, or rather, is anyone capable of verifying that the theft really happened? Or is the NXT community going to take BTER's word for it?
Question 2: After the Vericoin Mintpal-fork incident, will Nxt become the next coin to set aside their principles and perform a rollback in the interest of expediency?
Edit: Question 3: Will this henceforth set a precedent for every other exchange theft, legitimate or otherwise, in cryptoland?
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bitfromit
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August 15, 2014, 10:33:38 AM |
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NO ROLLBACK
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Mt. Gox
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August 15, 2014, 10:35:09 AM |
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Question 1: Has anyone verified, or rather, is anyone capable of verifying that the theft really happened? Or is the NXT community going to take BTER's word for it?
The theft is recorded on the blockchain: http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=1244396688755618309You can see the 50 million get transferred and the messages that he sent from his account.
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Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER. I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body! Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL) P.S. If anyone is reading this then please pray for me! [ www.chauljhin.com ]
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rugrats
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August 15, 2014, 10:39:43 AM |
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You can see the transfer, but you don't know the reason for said transfer. Of course, the most likely reason is theft. However, there could also be other reasons. I feel communities should not blindly take the word of exchanges. Edit: I just learned that the alleged thief posted a ransom note on the blockchain. We can trade these NXT for some bitcoins to make life easier for you, and me.Hypothetically speaking, who would know if an exchange was behind something like this in the first place?
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August 15, 2014, 10:43:22 AM |
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BTC: 1F8yJqgjeFyX1SX6KJmqYtHiHXJA89ENNT LTC: LYAEPQeDDM7Y4jbUH2AwhBmkzThAGecNBV DOGE: DSUsCCdt98PcNgUkFHLDFdQXmPrQBEqXu9
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TheWhale
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August 15, 2014, 10:45:59 AM |
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BTER: Pay the hacker 100 BTC
It is your fault for not having 2fa enabled and you will be paying ~$1.7 million worth of Nxt in compensation. Not to mention what this would do to Nxt's publicity.
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rugrats
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August 15, 2014, 10:48:12 AM |
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It's a sad day in the cryptoland to see the fourth biggest coin reduced to a hostage negotiation.
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August 15, 2014, 10:48:29 AM |
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Hypothetically speaking, who would know if an exchange was behind something like this in the first place?
This is a very good point -- one can't actually. An exchange could pull this show off. However, this would not be in the economic interest of an exchange as it would tarnish its image significantly.
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newuser01
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August 15, 2014, 10:51:18 AM |
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It's a sad day in the cryptoland to see the fourth biggest coin reduced to a hostage negotiation. it's hilarious it shows how centralized PoS coins really are and how shitty security exchanges can have even though they have lots of volume
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August 15, 2014, 10:53:10 AM |
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Now we will see if NXT is decentralized or not rollback = centralized Not really. It takes all the decentralised nodes to agree and form a consensus. That's like calling Bitcoin centralised every time they upgrade the software.
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newuser01
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August 15, 2014, 10:56:08 AM |
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Now we will see if NXT is decentralized or not rollback = centralized Not really. It takes all the decentralised nodes to agree and form a consensus. That's like calling Bitcoin centralised every time they upgrade the software. haha what? When bitcoin upgrades the software there is no rollback Do you not see the difference?
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August 15, 2014, 10:57:48 AM Last edit: August 15, 2014, 11:08:23 AM by Bizmark13 |
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Good news. Seems like the hacker has agreed to return the stolen Nxt in exchange for 100 BTC. There will probably be no rollback. This way, everyone wins. Bter gets to stay in business, the hacker makes a tidy profit, and the Nxt community gets their stolen coins back. It will be done in parts, so Bter sends 10 BTC first, after which the hacker sends 5 million NXT, then Bter sends another 10 BTC, etc. and so on. Latest message: BTER: considering all our users and the NXT community, we will cover all the users' loss and we will take your 100 BTC offer. 1+9 BTC has already sent to you. Now send NXT back to NXT-R3V3-2S79-F3ZM-BVXKZ ( 11513376607016028001) Link: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/1998773042441769982Edit: Fixed the link. Thanks rugrats. Edit 2: Looks like the first payment is already in: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/6198094150510358833
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August 15, 2014, 10:59:50 AM |
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Good news. Seems like the hacker has agreed to return the stolen Nxt in exchange for 100 BTC. There will probably be no rollback. This way, everyone wins. Bter gets to stay in business, the hacker makes a tidy profit, and the Nxt community gets their stolen coins back. It will be done in parts, so Bter sends 10 BTC first, after which the hacker sends 5 million NXT, then Bter sends another 10 BTC, etc. and so on. Latest message: BTER: considering all our users and the NXT community, we will cover all the users' loss and we will take your 100 BTC offer. 1+9 BTC has already sent to you. Now send NXT back to NXT-R3V3-2S79-F3ZM-BVXKZ ( 11513376607016028001) Link: http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=1998773042441769982Link: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/1998773042441769982
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August 15, 2014, 11:07:20 AM |
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paduser
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August 15, 2014, 11:10:17 AM |
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How will Bter pay this 100 BTC? From there earned fee?
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ChetnotAtkins
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August 15, 2014, 11:12:49 AM |
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... only in bitcoin land Geez, this guy has other exchanges to rob. Don't waste his precious time.
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August 15, 2014, 11:14:17 AM |
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this is really a bad news for nxt supporters
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August 15, 2014, 11:27:45 AM |
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newuser01
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August 15, 2014, 11:27:59 AM |
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Deal is off. Good night.
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August 15, 2014, 11:28:12 AM |
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Now we will see if NXT is decentralized or not rollback = centralized Not really. It takes all the decentralised nodes to agree and form a consensus. That's like calling Bitcoin centralised every time they upgrade the software. haha what? When bitcoin upgrades the software there is no rollback Do you not see the difference? How is x amount of individuals separate from each other centralised? When Bitcoin upgrades the software or has a hard fork the miners and the nodes need to agree on using and mining on a new chain(in the case of a hard fork). It's a decentalised consensus either way. That's the whole point of decentalisation. That it takes the majority to make changes. I'm not saying that I necessarily support the forgers choosing to roll back or not though. But it clearly isn't a centralised decision.
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