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August 16, 2014, 10:02:52 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.

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August 17, 2014, 05:03:23 AM
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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

Largest oil field in Irak is explored by Lukoil so stop with this BS.

What was the us after in Somalia? They wanted their sand?
The area in which they started bombing was in the Kurdish region of the country, where the large oil fields are.
Stop being a sheep.

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What happened to the Prime Directive?  The Federation had a policy that you couldn't interfere with the development of a pre-Warp civilization.  Perhaps the USA should had made the same policy about interfering with stone age civilizations?

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August 17, 2014, 08:16:17 AM
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What happened to the Prime Directive?  The Federation had a policy that you couldn't interfere with the development of a pre-Warp civilization.  Perhaps the USA should had made the same policy about interfering with stone age civilizations?

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The Fascist States is the country which is stuck in the stone age. Those stupid politicians there don't get that their empire is collapsing and there is nothing that they can do to stop it.
We are heading towards a new global financial crisis, which will be worse than the one of 2008. Many people will suffer only because of them.

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August 17, 2014, 11:26:46 AM
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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

Largest oil field in Irak is explored by Lukoil so stop with this BS.

What was the us after in Somalia? They wanted their sand?
The area in which they started bombing was in the Kurdish region of the country, where the large oil fields are.
Stop being a sheep.

The largest oil fields are in the south , get a map , a pair of glasses and do your lessons before shouting non-sense.
But , what to a expect from a us hater that in all his post in this forum is doing nothing but replaying rt news.


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August 17, 2014, 01:32:09 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.

Yes, very good point.
It seems that western governments, starting with president Obama, going from one bad decision to other and just creating more political chaos in this area.
They was helping rebels in Syria and now they are fighting the same rebels (ISIS) in Iraq.
Remember Afghanistan back in 1981?
They was supporting rebels against Russians, fanatic Muslims, but later this rebels become worst American enemy (Osama Bi Laden and his group).
It looks American foreign policy is lead by idiots.
They never learn from their past mistakes, there is no long term strategy in this area, nothing...
 

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August 17, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.

Yes, very good point.
It seems that western governments, starting with president Obama, going from one bad decision to other and just creating more political chaos in this area.
They was helping rebels in Syria and now they are fighting the same rebels (ISIS) in Iraq.
Remember Afghanistan back in 1981?
They was supporting rebels against Russians, fanatic Muslims, but later this rebels become worst American enemy (Osama Bi Laden and his group).
It looks American foreign policy is lead by idiots.
They never learn from their past mistakes, there is no long term strategy in this area, nothing...
 


And England did a mistake while helping Prussia and Russia fighting Napoleon because int the next two ww2 they will become allies and fight against Germany.

I love how people have a habit of using only 1% percent of their brain for actually trying to understand politics and 99% to explore conspiracy theories.


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August 17, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

Maybe you missed the whole news about France arming Kurds and doing intervention in the region and giving refugee statut and allowing Yazedis and what's not to France ? the thing is this problem should be taking seriously, another war, would only create another stronger/bigger ISIS, as ISIS it self is the result of the US in the middle east (from arming the Taliban in the 80-90s to Afghanestan and Iraq war, and with arming and training Syrians rebels....)  The Chaos left in Iraq makes it an easy target ! Iraq is now a divided country with no capabilities of defending it self and with it helicopters being shot like flies...
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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/17/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Brings back memories of the GLA busting the Three Gorges dam in C&C:Generals. Will be uncanny if this dam falls apart...

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August 17, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.
If by stimulate, you mean support (as in support al quiata in syria) then you could not be farther from the truth. Ever since 9/11 the US has been at war with al quaita and have been doing everything in it's power to attempt to take it down. Thus far we have been very successful and up until Obama took office it was much weaker then it was post 9/11

 
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August 17, 2014, 06:13:14 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

People don't really care about people who do not fit their political views. If people are anti war for example then there will be no exception for the use military force, even to help defenseless civilians. It's either black or white.
Also the Danes tried to use their freedom of speech at home with a cartoon, thinking they were safe a couple years ago, until they decided freedom of speech wasn't a big deal anymore when faced with a worldwide fatwa... So your people believe deep inside "why the need to pull the devil's tail and end up being a target at home? Nah... Let them die..."






 
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August 17, 2014, 08:15:49 PM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

People don't really care about people who do not fit their political views. If people are anti war for example then there will be no exception for the use military force, even to help defenseless civilians. It's either black or white.
Also the Danes tried to use their freedom of speech at home with a cartoon, thinking they were safe a couple years ago, until they decided freedom of speech wasn't a big deal anymore when faced with a worldwide fatwa... So your people believe deep inside "why the need to pull the devil's tail and end up being a target at home? Nah... Let them die..."






 

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There ya go:

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I dont live by Muslim rules. I live by Danish law.

I am respondsible for what I say. Im not racist but I am against religion because its only making one people hate another.
You can practise Islam, christianity or what ever you like. I dont have a problem at all with that.. But dont tell me what to do or what not to do because your religion says I cant.


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August 17, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
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Because America got it's ass kicked, and now thinks it can just go home. That is not the way war works. We will be fighting for decades still.

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August 18, 2014, 12:08:07 AM
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Should I give a fuck about someone drawing someone else?
There ya go:

http://gyazo.com/9be8c71eb70601b907175a3279a0cbd2
I can say what I want, I can draw what I want and I can write what I want.
I dont live by Muslim rules. I live by Danish law.

I am respondsible for what I say. Im not racist but I am against religion because its only making one people hate another.
You can practise Islam, christianity or what ever you like. I dont have a problem at all with that.. But dont tell me what to do or what not to do because your religion says I cant.



I agree with you to some extent, but why would you do something that you obviously know would hurt the feeling of someone else ? am all for personal liberties but ones liberty stop when others are affected.
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August 18, 2014, 02:58:03 AM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.

Yes, very good point.
It seems that western governments, starting with president Obama, going from one bad decision to other and just creating more political chaos in this area.
They was helping rebels in Syria and now they are fighting the same rebels (ISIS) in Iraq.
Remember Afghanistan back in 1981?
They was supporting rebels against Russians, fanatic Muslims, but later this rebels become worst American enemy (Osama Bi Laden and his group).
It looks American foreign policy is lead by idiots.
They never learn from their past mistakes, there is no long term strategy in this area, nothing...
 

This is utter nonsense.  Regardless of what the past history is the question is a current one, of a group intent on slaughtering entire peoples.  This is called genocide.  Do not say that people cannot be outraged, or that they cannot take up weapons against such barbarians.

Really, it does not matter if one ISIS group in one place is not terribly bad, a second one somewhere else is barbarians.  This is not complicated.
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August 18, 2014, 09:18:48 AM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.
If by stimulate, you mean support (as in support al quiata in syria) then you could not be farther from the truth. Ever since 9/11 the US has been at war with al quaita and have been doing everything in it's power to attempt to take it down. Thus far we have been very successful and up until Obama took office it was much weaker then it was post 9/11

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August 19, 2014, 05:45:27 AM
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Since the US requested assistance from Denmark by asking for a C-130 to drop Aid for the refugees in northen Iraq, a lot of danes are screaming to the government not to send f-16 fighter jets to the region to protect civilians and to bomb strategic important areas for ISIS/IS.

And other countries must have gotten the same request from the US.

I personally think that we (Denmark) Should send 6 F-16 fighters to help. 4 for missions and 2 backups.

What do you think about military actions in northen Iraq?

I think it's because of the double agenda our government has. One the one hand we stimulate Al Quadia in Syria, on the other it fights extremist in Iraq. In addition, when bombs fall a lot of innocent people die - I think they prefer troops.
If by stimulate, you mean support (as in support al quiata in syria) then you could not be farther from the truth. Ever since 9/11 the US has been at war with al quaita and have been doing everything in it's power to attempt to take it down. Thus far we have been very successful and up until Obama took office it was much weaker then it was post 9/11

Strange that the US are fighting Al Qaeda in some countries, yet they're arming and training them in Syria. Perpetual war machine for the greedy capitalists  Grin
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August 19, 2014, 08:38:28 AM
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That was due to the Cold War.  CIA and Americans only supported the religious Muslims as they were the only ones who wouldn't side with the Soviet Union.  The moderates were either pro-Soviet or apathetic, neither which appealed to the United States which needed as many allies as possible.

Then the US did a full 180 after 1990 and assumed the religious factions wouldn't dissent over losing their funding..   well so much for that idea..  Seems like the US traded one monster for another, especially if ISIS gets bigger. .  

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August 19, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
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Americans are currently bombing the ISIS, an organization which THEY FUNDED with money and weapons in the past years. Along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan and Qatar, they did. They did it only to throw Assad out of Syria. But sadly the ISIS has expanded in Iraq, and it is fighting BOTH Iraq gov and Kurdish people.(Note how Kurds are allies with Assad). And the USA is now helping Kurds! I couldn't believe it when I first heard it!
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August 19, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
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And the USA is now helping Kurds!

I don't think that it's surprising. They make profit selling weapons to both sides and they make more money if they artificially start conflicts (Ukraine anyone?).

When their operations are completely successful (eg. puppet government installed) they exploit all trade and resources while giving back nothing to the raped nations.

It's not just the US, but every central bank are dirty.

Ironically the peasants seems to never realize that their power lies in the complete control over money as it has been the case from roman times.

Funnily, the "western dream" (more like nightmare) relies on slavery just as it did in the past. It evolved though, it's not just a cherry picked demographic but every single person who uses fiat became a slave to the system.

My favourite DPR quote:

"Every single transaction that takes place outside the nexus of state control is a victory for those individuals taking part in the transaction."

And this is the very essence of bitcoin in my opinion and that's why I cannot be bothered by the exchange rate as long as the network operates.
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