dice.ninja - Now with Plinko!

[twister]

what's the minimum cash-out? and are the withdrawals instant?

Withdrawals are instant, min cash-out is 0.0001 bitcoin, 0.001 litecoin!

That's awesome Thx

Love your site name btw Dice.Ninja

[T04D]

what's the minimum cash-out? and are the withdrawals instant?

Withdrawals are instant, min cash-out is 0.0001 bitcoin, 0.001 litecoin!

That's awesome Thx

Love your site name btw Dice.Ninja

Thank you!

[m19]

Are the Plinko bets provably fair too?

It works great by the way. Luckyb.it watch out!

edit: How do I verify bets in general? I mean, where can I find the nonce of my bets? I have requested a new server seed (that worked), but there is nowhere I can see what the data of my old bets is.

[edmundduke]

Site went down ?

[shorena]

Site went down ?

looks like it :C

Edit (<5 minutes later): back up.

[Jungian]

Site went down ?

They are restarting a lot. Updating and stuff.

[T04D]

Site went down ?

They are restarting a lot. Updating and stuff.

Hey guys, sorry, seems like the last update introduced some mild instability, we're working on it now ( part of the reason dmf and I haven't been in the chat ) and I think we've got a fix in place, I can't be sure as I haven't been able to reproduce the error inside my test instance, but we've fixed most of the issues causing slowness from launch. Please don't be afraid to let one of us know if you're experiencing any problems, though, even if we don't get it right away, it's nice to have a record of problems people have had.

Thanks!

[omahapoker]

this better not mess with my plinko games




I feel like im at the price is right when playing

[stingleword]

Your 'plinko' right now is a direct clone of Lucky Bit. Even the pay tables are the same.

They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery; it's nice to see that people think so much of the game there!

[T04D]

Your 'plinko' right now is a direct clone of Lucky Bit. Even the pay tables are the same.

They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery; it's nice to see that people think so much of the game there!

Luckybit's awesome! I play there regularly and really enjoy it. I'll get in touch with them as soon as I get a second, should've sooner, but I hope they do feel flattered. We have the same respect for their creativity as we do dooglus whose investment structure we use, the cryptographers whose functions we use, Tesla, Turing, Von Nuemann for the computer architecture and underpinnings. Just as, I'm sure, the lucybit dev's have a great respect for the game of Pachinko. I'm not a lawyer and I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel here. We saw a great idea, and coded it one night, it sorta just sat unused for a few months, but after the dicebitco.in thing dmf and I wanted to give players and investors more reason to walk the path of the ninja, so we dusted it off and rolled it out. Also, while a humble contribution, pachinko style betting that supports investment is something that, afaik, has not been done before.

I've been so busy trying to keep stuff rolling smoothly that I honestly hadn't given it enough though: with investment everyone already know's it was doog's idea (Right?). The game of dice is so well known that we can't move the investment display without someone screaming "THATS NOT HOW PRIME DICE DOES IT!!! SCAM!!!1 AHHHH!". Exposing our users to another method of "letting the chips fall where they may" works in everybodys favor, because it's awesome, and people should know about it.

tldr: You are correct, sir! We do think quite highly of the luckyb.it model we've been calling plinko at dice.ninja

EDIT: I completely encourage typing as loud as you can in our chat box if you're not happy with a feature or have ideas about new developments to the site, but maybe turn caps lock off before your do

[williamj2543]

Change the drop tables for your plinko, and a couple other things, to seperate it from luckyb.it a bit more.

[Riva59]

I just set up username/password and 2FA and was able to:

• logout
• loging in through my secret login link
• devest BTC
• placing a bet

without giving another authentication then the initial secret login link.

An 'advanced security' menu in the 'account' section would be great. There you might be able to select which actions (loging in/divesting/betting) require which authentication (secret link/password/2FA).

[iram3130]

What is the meaning in Plinko max bet.

Max Bet is 10X max profit.

[LtPaxIV]

i fuckin love that new plinko thingy its addicting as hell.did anyone yet hit the 999x payout on it?

[dooglus]

Change the drop tables for your plinko, and a couple other things, to seperate it from luckyb.it a bit more.

I would suggest changing the tables so that the edge is 1% for all three rows.

Your investors are already happy to accept a 1% edge, so why not make the most of your crowd-sourced bankroll and be competitive with the greedier sites?

Here are some slightly modified (I only changed the first (and last) two numbers) paytables which give slightly over 1% edge instead of the current 1.75% edge:

Current:

edge('green',  [ 22,   5,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])         green: 1.750488%
edge('yellow', [111,  38, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])        yellow: 1.755676%
edge('red',    [999, 130, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])           red: 1.759033%
                                                                                  
Modified:

edge('green',  [111,  14,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])         green: 1.039429%
edge('yellow', [222,  46, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])        yellow: 1.026306%
edge('red',    [999, 145, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])           red: 1.026611%

Closer to 1%, but without "lucky" max win multipliers:

edge('green',  [ 123,  14,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])        green: 1.002808%
edge('yellow', [ 230,  46, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])       yellow: 1.001892%
edge('red',    [1007, 145, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])          red: 1.002197%

[omahapoker]

Change the drop tables for your plinko, and a couple other things, to seperate it from luckyb.it a bit more.

I would suggest changing the tables so that the edge is 1% for all three rows.

Your investors are already happy to accept a 1% edge, so why not make the most of your crowd-sourced bankroll and be competitive with the greedier sites?

Here are some slightly modified (I only changed the first (and last) two numbers) paytables which give slightly over 1% edge instead of the current 1.75% edge:

Current:

edge('green',  [ 22,   5,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])         green: 1.750488%
edge('yellow', [111,  38, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])        yellow: 1.755676%
edge('red',    [999, 130, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])           red: 1.759033%
                                                                                  
Modified:

edge('green',  [111,  14,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])         green: 1.039429%
edge('yellow', [222,  46, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])        yellow: 1.026306%
edge('red',    [999, 145, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])           red: 1.026611%

it just doesn't feel like Plinko anymore.









j/k thanks dooglus for doing that

[dooglus]

it just doesn't feel like Plinko anymore.

I never actually heard of Plinko.

I've seen the metal ball game on TV that I guess this is based on, but never understood how to play.

And there was a game around a year ago called bitcoinpinball or something which was pretty similar to this.

I'm sorry if I've stepped all over some ancient Plinko paytable rules of which I was unaware.

Edit: but since I'm stepping...

How about letting the user write their own paytable?

The 'table design' page lets you pick how many pins you want in the bottom row, and what payout you want for each bucket (sorry if that's the wrong word, omaha - no offence intended), then when you try to save it, the site calculates the edge (or displays the edge with each edit you make) and only lets you save it if the edge is over 1%.

[omahapoker]

us veteran international Plinko players perfer to call bucket "pail" its not me you have have to worry. you have to worry about fiesty canadien women who are diehard plinko pros






i love the idea of making your own odds. then you can get friends to play and take their hard earned bitcoins

[omahapoker]

good calculating kyle, you just made partner

[T04D]

i fuckin love that new plinko thingy its addicting as hell.did anyone yet hit the 999x payout on it?

We've actually already had two plinko bets hit the max multiplier, bet id 1644 was on red with a wager of 0 bitcoin, and bet id 9069 on green with a wager of 10 satoshis. The odds of it happening are 2/65535, and as of the time of this writing (~15:30 server time) there have only been 23314 bets placed, so ... good work?

Change the drop tables for your plinko, and a couple other things, to seperate it from luckyb.it a bit more.

I would suggest changing the tables so that the edge is 1% for all three rows.

Your investors are already happy to accept a 1% edge, so why not make the most of your crowd-sourced bankroll and be competitive with the greedier sites?

Here are some slightly modified (I only changed the first (and last) two numbers) paytables which give slightly over 1% edge instead of the current 1.75% edge:

Current:

edge('green',  [ 22,   5,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])         green: 1.750488%
edge('yellow', [111,  38, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])        yellow: 1.755676%
edge('red',    [999, 130, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])           red: 1.759033%
                                                                                  
Modified:

edge('green',  [111,  14,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])         green: 1.039429%
edge('yellow', [222,  46, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])        yellow: 1.026306%
edge('red',    [999, 145, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])           red: 1.026611%

Closer to 1%, but without "lucky" max win multipliers:

edge('green',  [ 123,  14,  3, 2, 1.4, 1.2, 1.1, 1,   0.4])        green: 1.002808%
edge('yellow', [ 230,  46, 12, 5, 3,   1.4, 1,   0.5, 0.3])       yellow: 1.001892%
edge('red',    [1007, 145, 24, 9, 4,   2,   0.2, 0.2, 0.2])          red: 1.002197%

This is awesome! Already in python and everything, I like the idea of getting it as close to 1% as possible with winning integers. I'll have to talk to dmf whose hibernating after the last server update, and I'd like to play with the numbers myself some, get a little more familiar with the statistics and run a day worth of random bets in test before we change them. The numbers we're at we know are profitable, both in simulation and math. Honestly I sorta don't feel like I understand the math well enough to drop it yet, and until I have the time to focus on it for a few hours straight, and understand it well enough to explain to a potentially panicked investor that might not have a strong grasp of combinatorics I'd prefer to leave it where it is. DMF may disagree, either way, I'd bet we have them adjusted within the next day or two.

it just doesn't feel like Plinko anymore.

I never actually heard of Plinko.

I've seen the metal ball game on TV that I guess this is based on, but never understood how to play.

And there was a game around a year ago called bitcoinpinball or something which was pretty similar to this.

I'm sorry if I've stepped all over some ancient Plinko paytable rules of which I was unaware.

Edit: but since I'm stepping...

How about letting the user write their own paytable?

The 'table design' page lets you pick how many pins you want in the bottom row, and what payout you want for each bucket (sorry if that's the wrong word, omaha - no offence intended), then when you try to save it, the site calculates the edge (or displays the edge with each edit you make) and only lets you save it if the edge is over 1%.

I originally suggested we do something similar, but instead have a single value, similar to dice's chance that scales the payouts linearly, but the problem was that the payouts don't scale linearly with their path count, or color. I like this idea much better. I'll have to think a bit about how to fanagle it into the backend, but you could have leaderboards for individual tables, standard deviations, plus it'd just be awesome to see what people come up with.