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August 28, 2014, 05:27:49 PM |
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"(Reuters) - Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Thursday that Russian forces had entered his country and the military conflict was worsening after Russian-backed separatists swept into a key town in the east. Poroshenko said he was cancelling a visit to Turkey and conferring with defense chiefs because of the "rapidly deteriorating situation" in the eastern Donetsk region, "as Russian troops have actually been brought into Ukraine". A NATO military officer said: "We assess well over 1,000 Russian troops are now operating inside Ukraine... They are supporting separatists (and) fighting with them." http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSKBN0GS10C20140828What do you think?
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August 28, 2014, 05:34:26 PM |
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They said that dozen of times already... It's some kind of reversal for "chinese warning".
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August 28, 2014, 05:38:28 PM |
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They said that dozen of times already... It's some kind of reversal for "chinese warning".
I guess its the official real thing now
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August 28, 2014, 05:39:42 PM |
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The strong takes whatever they want from the weak.
The world has been operating this way for thousands of years. Nothing is new here.
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August 28, 2014, 05:48:42 PM Last edit: August 28, 2014, 06:09:56 PM by Balthazar |
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They said that dozen of times already... It's some kind of reversal for "chinese warning".
I guess its the official real thing now It seems like that: - Wolf! Wolf! - Where? - He disappeared, must be afraid of us. - Wolf! - Where is your wolf? - He's already ran out of here. - Wolf! Wolf! - Get the fuck out. - But there is a real wolf, I need your help! - I said get the fuck out. - Aaa! Somebody help me! Aarggcchhkrrrppsshhh. The same old story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
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August 28, 2014, 07:35:21 PM |
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Poroshenko has been lying non-stop for some time now. That said, there are somewhere around 3,000 to 4,000 Russian citizens fighting alongside the rebels, making as much as 10% of the rebel strength. But most of these people are Cossacks, ex-servicemen and simple volunteers. A few are active Russian soldiers who are currently on leave. Also, there are Spaniards, Serbs, Greeks and Armenians fighting for the rebels in Donetsk and Lugansk. But Kiev should not complain much. There are Americans and Canadians fighting for them.
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August 29, 2014, 08:12:36 AM Last edit: August 29, 2014, 08:23:03 AM by Nemo1024 |
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Russia’s Defense Ministry ridicules NATO’s photo-proof of invasion in Ukraine http://rt.com/news/183536-nato-images-ridiculed-russia/It makes no sense to comment in detail on the satellite imagery released by NATO as “proof” of Russia’s military involvement in Ukraine, Defense Ministry’s spokesman said, pointing out that even high NATO officials were hesitant to put their names on it.
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“You know, it has become ridiculous… If earlier, someone would at least put their names on those images, be it Breedlove, Rasmussen, or even Lungescu, now, they are hesitant,” Konashenkov said as cited by RIA Novosti. “It makes no sense to seriously comment on this.”
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Russia's permanent representative to the EU Vladimir Chizhov also said neither NATO, the United States or the European Union have presented any evidence of Russian troop presence in the east of Ukraine.
According to him, the “stuffing of misinformation through the media and directly from Kiev” each time is carried out on the eve of important meetings at the EU level, this time ahead of the summit on August 30 in Brussels, “probably in anticipation of some critical language and even sanctions from the EU,” Itar-Tass quotes. And some entertainment: http://rt.com/news/183548-canada-geography-tweet-russia/Plus this food for thought: On Tuesday, President Vladimir Putin said that Ukrainian troops regularly cross the Russian border both armed and unarmed, intentionally or unintentionally, and were never charged with anything and allowed to freely return to Ukraine.
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August 29, 2014, 08:56:26 AM |
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August 29, 2014, 09:25:23 AM |
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They cannot be friends.......
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August 29, 2014, 09:27:50 AM |
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Atleast they have common border together unlike Afghanistan and Iraq... Those ones can't really be explained...
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August 29, 2014, 11:37:18 AM |
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Winter is coming..... Either Russia will cut off gas or Ukraine will cut off gas and say it's Russia's fault.Europe is screwed this winter. Expect 3-4 times higher energy bill.
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August 29, 2014, 11:42:12 AM |
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Ukraine is already invaded, but not by Russia. This is the biggest US embassy in Europe (!): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwt2010.info%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fusa-embassy-kiev.jpg&t=665&c=nylmNJT5u1XyKw) It's located in Kiev, ostensibly, the least economically and politically important country in Europe. Not in Germany, not in France, not in the UK, but in Kiev. According to some Ukrainian workers, involved in the construction in 2004, during the previous Western-sponsored president Yushenko, the underground part is even bigger than the above ground construction and can house a small army. And this is the building of SBU (Ukrainian secret service) in Kiev: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvdv-crimea.org.ua%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2F34.png&t=665&c=zTnJoa4E535S4Q) The fourth floor is used by the CIA and is off-limits to the Ukrainian officers.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 29, 2014, 11:59:36 AM |
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August 29, 2014, 02:59:47 PM |
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Winter is coming..... Either Russia will cut off gas or Ukraine will cut off gas and say it's Russia's fault.Europe is screwed this winter. Expect 3-4 times higher energy bill.
This is the entire plan of MERICA!!! Shutdown gas to EU from Russia and MERICA can come save the day via LGN and 5x the price!!!!! AHH YA MERICA! Gaslog stocks anyone?
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August 29, 2014, 03:19:39 PM Last edit: August 29, 2014, 03:32:09 PM by Balthazar |
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"24 hours after russian invasion" ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftopwar.ru%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F2014%2F083%2Fvnou88.png&t=665&c=_Q6j1c7TO5m18Q)
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August 29, 2014, 03:55:12 PM |
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Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine, Iraq is still spiraling out of control with the ISIS Caliphate, Syria still in civil war with IISIS controlling much of Iraq and Syria, Boko Harum selling school girls as sex slaves... This is the vacuum left by the USA as they cut and run from the world scene. Yes this is the Barack Obama Foreign Policy!
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August 29, 2014, 04:33:25 PM |
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This is the entire plan of MERICA!!! Shutdown gas to EU from Russia and MERICA can come save the day via LGN and 5x the price!!!!! AHH YA MERICA! Gaslog stocks anyone?
That is the plan. The US will not export LNG from its terminals, as it is not having enough stock. But remember that the foremost ally of the US in the Middle-East (Qatar) is the biggest producer of LNG in the world. So the NATO will shut down Russian gas, which is trading at $380 per Kilo Cubic Meter, and replace it with the Qatari LNG, which is twice as expensive. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 29, 2014, 06:28:53 PM |
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Ukraine is already invaded, but not by Russia. This is the biggest US embassy in Europe (!): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwt2010.info%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fusa-embassy-kiev.jpg&t=665&c=nylmNJT5u1XyKw) It's located in Kiev, ostensibly, the least economically and politically important country in Europe. Not in Germany, not in France, not in the UK, but in Kiev. According to some Ukrainian workers, involved in the construction in 2004, during the previous Western-sponsored president Yushenko, the underground part is even bigger than the above ground construction and can house a small army. And this is the building of SBU (Ukrainian secret service) in Kiev: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvdv-crimea.org.ua%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2F34.png&t=665&c=zTnJoa4E535S4Q) The fourth floor is used by the CIA and is off-limits to the Ukrainian officers. The US has embassies in every one of its allies.
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August 29, 2014, 06:32:31 PM |
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There is a difference between embassy and largest embassy in the europe. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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