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August 29, 2014, 07:48:30 PM
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I saw the seandaniel's "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154474" thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699343.msg8582537#msg8582537 and i saw that he was selling amazon GCs, I decided to buy $200 amazon gcs for $145 in btc and he agreed so i send him the btc and now he is not responding to my msgs.

here are the proofs:

this is the TXID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/152a6a3d8f0520a2bb74ed1411d6f6791b04f15cdd5a570ca19d986c96ff2966

and he sent my btc to this address:
https://blockchain.info/address/1EqHS5EXfTwunmHSVm1nrGXydmmvmCUR1h

and here are the screenshots of his msgs:





I hope i can get my money back :/
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August 29, 2014, 08:01:23 PM
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be aware of his another wallet address: 1EqHS5EXfTwunmHSVm1nrGXydmmvmCUR1h
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August 30, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
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He has been in the lending section asking for ever increasing loan amounts and although I do not yet know if he is a for sure scammer, I went ahead and gave him neg until this matter is resolved.
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August 30, 2014, 01:00:30 AM
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I also purchased a $250 for $200 and he stopped responding to me as well:

http://blockchain.info/tx/e9c2c7d960d7223fad5802bb33f16f4a7a3a484d12cc383fb1150bca7c162b10
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August 30, 2014, 01:10:13 AM
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I hope he become a real man and come back and refund my money and ''yeahright'' money too, i hope that he did not scam anyone else.
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August 30, 2014, 01:20:11 AM
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I agree dealt with him before and each time it was a smooth transaction and worked out well.  This time totally different.
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August 30, 2014, 01:21:02 AM
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Unfortunately, this is a growing problem most likely caused by accounts being sold.
You can see some of my arguments against it here

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August 30, 2014, 01:23:52 AM
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I agree it's hard to tell now with accounts being sold who to trust.  I enjoyed this community in the beginning but I've been taken a couple of times.
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August 30, 2014, 01:30:09 AM
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I need these mods guys on here ban any account can be sold or logged in with even a diff ip address, why is not this forum controlled well and have a lot of scammers???

And also newbies should not be in the marketplace, this is the reason for a lot of scams happened over here.
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August 30, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
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I don't know how well different IP address will be.  I login at work, home and on my phone.
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August 30, 2014, 01:35:33 AM
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It can be noticed when the location is changed man , once the country, state or city is changed, it should be banned.
Whatever i need the previous account holder of this seandaniel's acc to be here and solve this problem since he is responsible of all this shit if he really sold his account.
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August 30, 2014, 01:40:01 AM
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I agree hopefully he didn't sell his account but his BTC address hasn't changed from when he was asking for loans.
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August 30, 2014, 02:08:57 AM
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Unfortunately, this is a growing problem most likely caused by accounts being sold.
You can see some of my arguments against it here
I think this is an argument against sending money to a complete stranger without using escrow. This person could have just as easily conducted several trades with members of the forum to get the feedback that this person got. I do agree that marketing that an account that you have for sale is marketing your product towards scammers, but even newbie accounts can trade, earn honest feedback and then scam.

EDIT: if the amount that others are risking on a users trust profile is less then what you would be risking by sending first then it is probably best to either use a trusted escrow to have the other person send first, or decline to trade with this person. (also remember that if something sounds like it is too good to be true, then it probably is).
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August 30, 2014, 02:18:29 AM
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It can be noticed when the location is changed man , once the country, state or city is changed, it should be banned.
Whatever i need the previous account holder of this seandaniel's acc to be here and solve this problem since he is responsible of all this shit if he really sold his account.

Like how you were responsible when you sold bad starbucks cards and didn't want to refund unless you got refunded?  Roll Eyes You did eventually refund those buyers right? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729896.0

Should have used escrow. There is a reason why gift cards are being sold for so cheap lately, either they are carded or seller has no plan on sending anything.

Don't forget the link in his profile to LBC: https://localbitcoins.com/ad/113564/purchase-bitcoin-western-union-philippines - He's online right now, although he might have just used a random LBC ad / profile to gain more trust.
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August 30, 2014, 03:39:59 AM
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I hate to be that guy.... but use escrow and it will be 100x harder to get scammed. If seller doesn't want to use escrow then that in its self is not a good sign. I think some escrow people will even do it for free these days.

I agree it's hard to tell now with accounts being sold who to trust.  I enjoyed this community in the beginning but I've been taken a couple of times.

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August 30, 2014, 03:50:01 AM
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I hate to be that guy.... but use escrow and it will be 100x harder to get scammed. If seller doesn't want to use escrow then that in its self is not a good sign. I think some escrow people will even do it for free these days.

I agree it's hard to tell now with accounts being sold who to trust.  I enjoyed this community in the beginning but I've been taken a couple of times.

Yep, that's the easiest way to prevent yourself from being scammed. I as well as many others, provide escrow services for free so there's no excuse for not using one.

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August 30, 2014, 04:33:10 AM
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I can see his account would have been sold. He was asking for many high risk loans. Then he just scams people here.
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August 30, 2014, 07:20:56 AM
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I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  Roll Eyes. Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.

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August 30, 2014, 08:09:08 AM
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I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  Roll Eyes. Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.

Yeah, had no good feeling about this from the start. Should have listened to my gut I guess. Well, there is still hope he clears things up.
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August 30, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
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I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped  Roll Eyes. Either during or after his second loan with me, he:

1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it.
2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out.
3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions.
4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803


Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you.

Yeah, had no good feeling about this from the start. Should have listened to my gut I guess. Well, there is still hope he clears things up.

I hope he come back and says he is sorry for this, he was a good reputable guy before and I hope he still the same.
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