[POOL] pool.burstcoin.io [ No-Deadline Limit ] [ Instant Payout ]

[zippolo]

Hello, yesterday I've found two blocks on your pool (at least this is what the block explorer say) but it look like I've got the same burst that I get normally (on average).

Can you please explain? The one who has the lower deadline, aka the one that find the block, isn't supposed to get the higher share value?

The block are number 17913 and number 17896, is something wrong with them?

Thank you  

p.s. I'm not complaining, just wanna know better how things work


BURST-GGVJ-HPGP-5P6G-6BXD4

[1714169485]

1714169485

[1714169485]

1714169485

[zippolo]

Another thing I don't understand is why the "Balance" column sometimes reset without being paid.
From what I see in the "How it works" page, the 50% reduction applies to shares :

"Share value reduction is 50% per block
if pool on current round does not find a block, miners shares are keep (up to 99 blocks), but their value is reduced by 50% everytime we dont found a block. when pool has positive balance, all share are summed up to block# where payment will be made, and burst payment are made proportional to total share owned up to this time"

The balance in my understandig is supposed to be left untouched till it reach or exceed the minimum payout and then reset after the payment is been issued. Is that wrong?

Again, thanks to shed some light

[Prelude]

Pool is down?

[darksaber]

This is a repost from the other thread:

I need some insight on the mining process.
I am currently on Uray's pool. Started mining this morning with a balance of 21 Burst. Mined for 4ish hours, had 40+ shares, found a block and only gained 1 Burst.
What am I missing here? I have 1.75 TB in plots which should be around 40/hour per the calculator.

Edit: At block 18303 I went from a balance of 22 to 7 after finding block 18302.

[darksaber]

Now I'm up to a balance of 49. Let's see if it stays or resets again...

Edit: I did just get a payout of 21. So at least I got something.

[Avaahnaa]

Umm, those two graphs are the same :s

you got the idea that the planned graph for EU pool is actually the red line, right? 

Yeah thanks for that, how could I not realise -.-


Maybe I should make myself clearer for the sarcastic folk.

The curve on the US pool graph is the same as the curve on the SG pool graph.

(That's the black line in the top graph and the black line in the middle graph Pilotseye )

hmm... how is its same? US and SG right? can you please see it again?

Haha, I should have quoted the original images

Kk, now they represent correctly Thanks for clearing it up.

[uray]

Another thing I don't understand is why the "Balance" column sometimes reset without being paid.
From what I see in the "How it works" page, the 50% reduction applies to shares :

"Share value reduction is 50% per block
if pool on current round does not find a block, miners shares are keep (up to 99 blocks), but their value is reduced by 50% everytime we dont found a block. when pool has positive balance, all share are summed up to block# where payment will be made, and burst payment are made proportional to total share owned up to this time"

The balance in my understandig is supposed to be left untouched till it reach or exceed the minimum payout and then reset after the payment is been issued. Is that wrong?

Again, thanks to shed some light

those words not saying anything about balance, its share value, its completely different, balance is untouched until it exceed minimum payout, then your balance will be zero and you will got payment

nonce -> deadline -> CR. share value -> AR. share value -> balance -> payout

[uray]

This is a repost from the other thread:

I need some insight on the mining process.
I am currently on Uray's pool. Started mining this morning with a balance of 21 Burst. Mined for 4ish hours, had 40+ shares, found a block and only gained 1 Burst.
What am I missing here? I have 1.75 TB in plots which should be around 40/hour per the calculator.

Edit: At block 18303 I went from a balance of 22 to 7 after finding block 18302.

balance 22 to 7, and then how much is your TX Amount column ?

[darksaber]

Received transaction of 21, that makes sense now, the payout was lagged. Still doesn't explain the balance of ~40 resetting to 0 earlier and the balance of 90* going back to 0 yesterday without payout.
Right now I have a balance of 67.87 and 12.8 shares...watching it very closely.

[zippolo]

Another thing I don't understand is why the "Balance" column sometimes reset without being paid.
From what I see in the "How it works" page, the 50% reduction applies to shares :

"Share value reduction is 50% per block
if pool on current round does not find a block, miners shares are keep (up to 99 blocks), but their value is reduced by 50% everytime we dont found a block. when pool has positive balance, all share are summed up to block# where payment will be made, and burst payment are made proportional to total share owned up to this time"

The balance in my understandig is supposed to be left untouched till it reach or exceed the minimum payout and then reset after the payment is been issued. Is that wrong?

Again, thanks to shed some light

those words not saying anything about balance, its share value, its completely different, balance is untouched until it exceed minimum payout, then your balance will be zero and you will got payment

nonce -> deadline -> CR. share value -> AR. share value -> balance -> payout

I've said the same thing
Anyway, the balance column keep reset itself, maybe is just a display glitch and behind the curtains everything work fine....

What about the blocks I've found? Wasn't I supposed to get an higher share? And while it's true that the shares keep halving every time the pool doesn't find a block, in this case (ie block found) the pool wasn't supposed to have a positive balance? The same happened today, block found and no different payout.

Thank you very much for your time

p.s. sorry for my poor English

[uray]

Another thing I don't understand is why the "Balance" column sometimes reset without being paid.
From what I see in the "How it works" page, the 50% reduction applies to shares :

"Share value reduction is 50% per block
if pool on current round does not find a block, miners shares are keep (up to 99 blocks), but their value is reduced by 50% everytime we dont found a block. when pool has positive balance, all share are summed up to block# where payment will be made, and burst payment are made proportional to total share owned up to this time"

The balance in my understandig is supposed to be left untouched till it reach or exceed the minimum payout and then reset after the payment is been issued. Is that wrong?

Again, thanks to shed some light

those words not saying anything about balance, its share value, its completely different, balance is untouched until it exceed minimum payout, then your balance will be zero and you will got payment

nonce -> deadline -> CR. share value -> AR. share value -> balance -> payout

I've said the same thing
Anyway, the balance column keep reset itself, maybe is just a display glitch and behind the curtains everything work fine....

What about the blocks I've found? Wasn't I supposed to get an higher share? And while it's true that the shares keep halving every time the pool doesn't find a block, in this case (ie block found) the pool wasn't supposed to have a positive balance? The same happened today, block found and no different payout.

Thank you very much for your time

p.s. sorry for my poor English

share halving is to make sure recent share is rewarded more than older share, if you found a block, then your latest share will be higher than anyone else (only for that round), but when payment was going to be made couple blocks later (there is delay between when block is found and pool received the reward), the condition could change, its because there could be other miner that has better cumulative share than yours, even if you are the block finder

US and SG has difference curve, this mainly affect the above condition, US pool has greater chance that block finder does not always have highest payout, its because the share value more distrbuted evenly, so there is more chance that other miner has better cumulative share than block finder. contrary to US, on SG pool block finder is rewarded exponentially better share, so there is less chance that other non-block finder can compete with your exponentially better share because of block you just found, but on SG pool if you dont found block the regular share will be exponentially small too.

balance is reset and sometime you see tx amount is still zero, its because your balance is moved to pending payment list, tx amount will be still zero if the payment is not confirmed yet by network within that round time, if the payment was failed, that amount will be put back to your balance

[zippolo]

Crystal clear 

What I was missing was the delay between the block beeing found by the pool and the payment that the pool receive for it.

Again, thank you very much for your patience

[uray]

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[uray]

 

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I am so tired addressing his question, i gave an explation about how payment was made on my own pool thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769473.msg9046856#msg9046856 , he doesn't even understand and really want his payout, i dont even know how much the payout he want

this is your last payout since you moved to SG, see that thousands burst that really wanted, is it there?, did I lied about the difference between US and SG curve will affecting block finder payout?

Code:

TX ID                BURST
7662834634249872223    254
7414300847535456645   1210
1864899760626606752    358
18118364217739562352   386
14797181887714913388  1720
2191009502404328157   1030
14134541985667213571   386
..
..

please if the payout dont match your expectation you are free to use another pool or try solo mining, I made this PM public so i can answer any question similar to this (if there any), is there anyone else thinking that i am hiding something ?

[romdu]

hi uray,

big thanks for your pools and your efford you put into burst!! Keep it comming...

Regards
romdu

[darksaber]

I hate to be a broken record but it happened again.
At block 18702 I had a balance of 214, at block 18703 it went to 0.
I have received no payout as of block 18707.

So it reset from 90 to 0 on Tuesday and 40 to 0 yesterday.
Can you look into this please?
Account: G7L5-JW6T-TKKM-9MNNL

Edit: the 214 just showed up.

[mirny]

Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..             
2834 MB read/11338 GB total/deadline 231351s (231280s left)             
New block 18712, basetarget 2418526                         

Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..             
4827 MB read/19311 GB total/deadline 137651s (137459s left)           
New block 18713, basetarget 2381672

Hi uray,
how can I get rid of that ''Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..'' message.
I hope I'm submitting shares.

[uray]

I hate to be a broken record but it happened again.
At block 18702 I had a balance of 214, at block 18703 it went to 0.
I have received no payout as of block 18707.

So it reset from 90 to 0 on Tuesday and 40 to 0 yesterday.
Can you look into this please?
Account: G7L5-JW6T-TKKM-9MNNL

Edit: the 214 just showed up.

so.. your 214 are gone or what?

[uray]

Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..             
2834 MB read/11338 GB total/deadline 231351s (231280s left)             
New block 18712, basetarget 2418526                         

Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..             
4827 MB read/19311 GB total/deadline 137651s (137459s left)           
New block 18713, basetarget 2381672

Hi uray,
how can I get rid of that ''Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..'' message.
I hope I'm submitting shares.

whats your account?

guys please if you have question regarding mining problem, payout or anything related, please include your account so i can check

[darksaber]

I hate to be a broken record but it happened again.
At block 18702 I had a balance of 214, at block 18703 it went to 0.
I have received no payout as of block 18707.

So it reset from 90 to 0 on Tuesday and 40 to 0 yesterday.
Can you look into this please?
Account: G7L5-JW6T-TKKM-9MNNL

Edit: the 214 just showed up.

so.. your 214 are gone or what?

No I have them. Took about 10 blocks to show up. I'm being overly cautious just because of the other 90 and 40 that are missing.