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[Quickseller]

Handing out these refunds likely scarred investors away which ultimately lead to having a bank roll that is not capable of sustaining a little bit of bad luck.

By the looks of it this wasn't "a little bit of bad luck".

From what I'm hearing people who stayed invested for Mateo have lost around 85% of their investment. Losing 85% of your site's bankroll with a dynamic 0.5% max profit is more than just "a little bit of bad luck".

like I said they should roll back mateos bets. But a bankroll that has players betting the max a high percentage of the time will be adversely affected if one person has a little bit of good luck. I would say that not all of the 15% losses that investors sustained were from him (most probably were) but some percentage were from other legit players who had a lucky streak and stopped.

Too late, from what I've heard and read around here, it seems a withdrawal was processed for mateo which adds to the dishonesty. To think that dicebitcoin would still payout after all the chaos, instead of suspending betting is just completely incomprehensible.

Have you read anything with a source to confirm that his funds were actually withdrawn, or was it just speculation?

I am certain that he was somehow cheating. Even if dicebitco did check his bets and they turned out to look legit I would have not paid him and risked being called a scammer because of the high chances of him cheating even if it couldn't be proven.

I think they continued to process withdrawals so they would have the appearance of being honest. They had the reserves to cover the withdrawals so they took the risk of paying out that much bitcoin at once so people couldn't accuse them of scamming. This did not work, it only allowed the scammer to get away with more (if the scammer and dicebitco are one and the same is another question).

[Sinecoin]

just wondering, was doog staff on the site or was he just a major investor?

[vinboy]

just wondering, was doog staff on the site or was he just a major investor?

i believe he was just an investor and someone who look after the escrow for sig marketing, not a staff.. pls correct me if i'm wrong.

[Martijnvdc]

I was at work today. I had no idea the theft was going on until it was much too late. And apparently the owner will not refund me, either.

[Joca97]

can escrow pay us money for are signature at least??!

[wayshegoes]

I think all investors should be able to see mateo's bets verified to prove he wasn't playing a +EV rigged dice game. Maybe he was lucky enough to have nonces skip only on losing bets?

Who cleans out a bankroll flat betting on a -EV game?

[niktitan132]

This is fucked up.The site looked great and admin was always online and now this! 

And what will happen with the signature payment?Will we be paid?

[Joca97]

This is fucked up.The site looked great and admin was always online and now this! 

And what will happen with the signature payment?Will we be paid?

it would be fair that all 5 btc goes to 100 members so everyone gets now each 0.1 btc

or if there is 10 that everybody gets 0.2btc

[dooglus]

I don't know. The user who posted directly below your post seems to own the smaller of the two, but the remainder has been moved here.

https://blockchain.info/address/1NLdqkJRooQqHHBycnXEdA9R5N5TJb2biB

This accounts for the entire remainder of the sites cold wallet, yet people are claiming they were paid out. Maybe I'm missing something huge or blatantly obvious.

Then I guess that's what is left in the hot wallet.

It keeps moving from address to address as people withdraw and the rest is spent as 'change' to a new address in the hot wallet.

[Joca97]

I don't know. The user who posted directly below your post seems to own the smaller of the two, but the remainder has been moved here.

https://blockchain.info/address/1NLdqkJRooQqHHBycnXEdA9R5N5TJb2biB

This accounts for the entire remainder of the sites cold wallet, yet people are claiming they were paid out. Maybe I'm missing something huge or blatantly obvious.

Then I guess that's what is left in the hot wallet.

It keeps moving from address to address as people withdraw and the rest is spent as 'change' to a new address in the hot wallet.

dooglus can you please look into signature campagain

that we get are money from it please

[dooglus]

just wondering, was doog staff on the site or was he just a major investor?

I was nothing to do with the site other than:

* playing a lot (winning about 35 BTC)
* investing around 50 BTC (which grew to around 85 BTC with my gambling wins)
* wearing their signature here for a month
* holding 5 BTC in escrow for their signature campaign in case they fail to pay
* being made a chat moderator (able to mute / unmute people in the chat)

So not a "major" investor - I was around 2% of the bankroll at my peak.

[nomoreasd]

The escrowed bitcoins will be used to pay the users signed up at the end of the month?

[dooglus]

This is fucked up.The site looked great and admin was always online and now this! 

And what will happen with the signature payment?Will we be paid?

See here and the following posts.

In short the plan is that we're going to pay as normal at the end of the month if DB themselves don't.

If you want to pull out now, you can do, and we'll pay a quarter of the normal rate, since only a quarter of the current month has passed - unless DB keeps running the campaign, in which case it'll be up to them who to pay out; I imagine they would say that if you drop their signature after a week you get nothing.

[Martijnvdc]

We know that we are responsible for the "bug" that is why we refunded every affected player from OUR wallet. Investors weren't affected by this bug. The invest / divest was working completely fine so investors could (and did) divest their btc.

Second reply to my open ticket...
So somehow this bug didn't affect me?? This is a downright SCAM.
The website malfunctions, allowing a player to cheat and steal the money from the investors...

[iram3130]

can escrow pay us money for are signature at least??!

Douglus and Bitcoininformation already said befroe they will pay the signature campaign.
I do not think there is any issue after they said, then why asking same question everytime.

[Joca97]

This is fucked up.The site looked great and admin was always online and now this! 

And what will happen with the signature payment?Will we be paid?

See here and the following posts.

In short the plan is that we're going to pay as normal at the end of the month if DB themselves don't.

If you want to pull out now, you can do, and we'll pay a quarter of the normal rate, since only a quarter of the current month has passed - unless DB keeps running the campaign, in which case it'll be up to them who to pay out; I imagine they would say that if you drop their signature after a week you get nothing.

@dooglus if you can pay us now if possible each 0.1 btc or something like that

because obviously dicebitcoin is a scam!

[jh7phone]

I didn't have access to my login details for DB until today because i locked them in a safety deposit box over the weekend, I was able to get into my account just now and found this:

Profit was at 172BTC when i deposited now profit is at -329BTC.

out of 10BTC invested 3 days ago only 1.6BTC is available for withdraw.

I asked manl in chat to trigger my emergency withdraw over the weekend when I found out they were cheating!

I could of got my coins back! but he ignored that request now I'm down 9btc. I should be refunded.

[e1ghtSpace]

Please change to 110% house edge so no more people get scammed.

But 110% means they'd be paying you :0

[Martijnvdc]

I didn't have access to my login details for DB until today because i locked them in a safety deposit box over the weekend, I was able to get into my account just now and found this:

Profit was at 172BTC when i deposited now profit is at -329BTC.

out of 10BTC invested 3 days ago only 1.6BTC is available for withdraw.

I asked manl in chat to trigger my emergency withdraw over the weekend when I found out they were cheating!

I could of got my coins back! but he ignored that request now I'm down 9btc. I should be refunded.

read my posts.
I opened a support ticket for that, and they say investors are not affected by the bug, because you had the chance to divest... It's a fucking scam.

[abreezy]

Can anyone please explain to me how I can verify my bets?