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For some, the income we receive from these campaigns is a big portion (0.3BTC isn't exactly a small amount). I am waiting until I get paid then will decide the best course of action.
Its an interesting dilemma. If people are going to neg rep you then should do that for all those who are sporting the cryptcominer or gawminer signatures. I suggest you add a banner to your posts disclaiming the signature or directing people to the relevant thread. If its proven to some reasonable degree that they scammed (I am sure they did), then the escrow holders should take the call and divide up the money, or settle it with some lower pay. The issue is that these two sites have not scammed yet. While I am confident that both of these sites will scam, IMHO I think pre-emptive actions are unfair. Regarding the signature ads: The exchange is for displaying an ad. The exchange does not involve you astrosurfing or defending them. Why not continue to carry the signature, but add a visible disclaimer? You have a free line. The contract is that I may only have the signature, unaltered in the space. I added a personal message however. So? That's entirely my point. You are choosing to take 0.3 BTC and collude with a scam. That's the entire basis of my negative trust rating. You seem to fail to grasp the concept that trustworthyness is *EXACTLY* not pocketing money you shouldn't pocket. The whole point of trustworthyness is that you would sacrifice gains. PS: The contract actually says you may not advertise other sites, not that it's unaltered. (A Ctrl+F of the thread shows 0 matches for 'unaltered'). |
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September 09, 2014, 02:49:12 PM |
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^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
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Made more simple: Trust is about forfeiting attractive gains that you should not rightfully receive.If an offer involves promoting a scam, then that is something that you should not rightfully perform IMHO. ^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else. |
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September 09, 2014, 02:51:45 PM |
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Made more simple: Trust is about forfeiting attractive gains that you should not rightfully receive.If an offer involves promoting a scam, then that is something that you should not rightfully perform IMHO. ^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else. I am rightfully supposed to receive signature earnings, from day 1. They were not a scam back then hence why I decided to advertise them. In other words: The offer DID NOT involve promoting a scam. |
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September 09, 2014, 02:52:13 PM |
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If an escrow provider has made the claim that the contract involved keeping the signature unaltered, then it seems the escrow provider hasn't read the thread.
Relevant rules:
* You must use the highest level of formatting (Color/size/etc) your user group allows to be applicable for the rates.
- Still applies if you add a disclaimer.
* Your signature must reflect your full user group rights.
- Still applies if you add a disclaimer.
* You may not advertise any other sites/threads. This includes non-paid for advertisements.
- define:advertise: "describe or draw attention to (a product, service, or event) in a public medium in order to promote sales or attendance."
A disclaimer relating to a scam is not 'promoting sales or attendance' and should not be considered advertising.
* You need to have the Dicebitco.in signature AT ALL TIMES you are enrolled. Fail to do so will void all/any outstanding payments owed to you. Dont try to cheat!
- Still applies if you add a disclaimer.
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September 09, 2014, 02:53:12 PM |
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Made more simple: Trust is about forfeiting attractive gains that you should not rightfully receive.If an offer involves promoting a scam, then that is something that you should not rightfully perform IMHO. ^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else. there u go, it was stated by dicebitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.msg8734611#msg8734611 |
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September 09, 2014, 02:53:21 PM |
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^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else. Hello everyone,
Dooglus and BitcoinInformation here. We have talked a bit and decided that we will be enforcing the rules set by DiceBitco.in. If you want to advertise the site, you can, but decide for yourself. If you think it's a scam, and you don't want to advertise a scam, then change your signature. Hower, you most likely won't get paid, since you are breaking the campaign rules. This also means that changed signature's are invalid!
If we have coins left at the end of this period, we will pay those who dropped out now for being in the campaign for a week. We have send DiceBitco.in a PM asking if we could do an early payout, because the current arregement isn't optimal.
We will keep you all updated!
Kind Regards,
Dooglus and BitcoinInformation
Btw, can you stop being so aggressive and start doling out neg reps? This guy has shown to be quite involved in the community and was the first who changed the signature to warn others. I am sure with a bit of dialogue you can reach a solution. |
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September 09, 2014, 02:53:52 PM |
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If an escrow provider has made the claim that the contract involved keeping the signature unaltered, then it seems the escrow provider hasn't read the thread.
Relevant rules:
* You must use the highest level of formatting (Color/size/etc) your user group allows to be applicable for the rates.
- Still applies if you add a disclaimer.
* Your signature must reflect your full user group rights.
- Still applies if you add a disclaimer.
* You may not advertise any other sites/threads. This includes non-paid for advertisements.
- define:advertise: "describe or draw attention to (a product, service, or event) in a public medium in order to promote sales or attendance."
A disclaimer relating to a scam is not 'promoting sales or attendance' and should not be considered advertising.
* You need to have the Dicebitco.in signature AT ALL TIMES you are enrolled. Fail to do so will void all/any outstanding payments owed to you. Dont try to cheat!
- Still applies if you add a disclaimer.
Am quoting this to send to bitcoininformation, will add a disclaimer once he decides. |
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September 09, 2014, 02:55:23 PM |
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^ can you add the message at the end as I suggested? Will require a bit more work but just keep it in clipboard.
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So you will add neg rep to all? Better start working on the list then; you will take a few days  I have a list  Quite a few removed their signature already. FULL MEMBER LIST
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80.dodgecharger 291 Sr. Member 1MJRbybVgx7rJmtLMndr4SqZdjfJadC3FXSince you neg repped him, you should also do to the two escrow providers, as they asked to revert back to original sig, and also all the other carriers who are aware.
He can't add anything else in sig as it contravenes rules, but yeah, he can add a message after each post. Will require a bit more work on his part.
I disagree. I see nothing mentioned in the rules that prohibit you from adding a disclaimer. I'll email bitcoininformation & dooglus and ask them to actually read the rules. Please kindly correct me if you see a rule that prohibits altering the signature non-advertisingly. |
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I have a list Quite a few removed their signature already. I meant all from the gawminers and cryptcominer. You know they are going to blow up soon; and don't tell me the participants are unaware that they are ponzis. Regarding the rules, yes, good work. This should hopefully resolve the issue. |
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So you will add neg rep to all? Better start working on the list then; you will take a few days I have a list Quite a few removed their signature already. FULL MEMBER LIST
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80.dodgecharger 291 Sr. Member 1MJRbybVgx7rJmtLMndr4SqZdjfJadC3FXSince you neg repped him, you should also do to the two escrow providers, as they asked to revert back to original sig, and also all the other carriers who are aware.
He can't add anything else in sig as it contravenes rules, but yeah, he can add a message after each post. Will require a bit more work on his part.
I disagree. I see nothing mentioned in the rules that prohibit you from adding a disclaimer. I'll email bitcoininformation & dooglus and ask them to actually read the rules. Please kindly correct me if you see a rule that prohibits altering the signature non-advertisingly. I have posted on bitcoininformation's thread and am awaiting his response. |
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Made more simple: Trust is about forfeiting attractive gains that you should not rightfully receive.If an offer involves promoting a scam, then that is something that you should not rightfully perform IMHO. ^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else. there u go, it was stated by dicebitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.msg8734611#msg8734611dicebitcoin already did a statement |
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interesting you guys still think you deserve money for advertising a site that went on to steal from customers...
give whats left to charity imo
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dicebitcoin already did a statement
Thanks for this. I don't see any mention of "If you change or alter the signature in any way, you will not be entitled to payment" in the original contract. It is well accepted that contracts cannot be altered unilaterally without a suitable clause and consideration. If you would like me to cite case law from a variety of jurisdictions, let me know. I believe DiceBitco.in's statement is invalid, as it is not part of the original contract. |
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Mateo has an almost perfect win streak winning as many as 36 times in a row in 49.5%. His style of betting would benefit their malicious code that skips certain bets.
The nail in the coffin confirming scam for me is the fact they disabled the ability to verify other players bets.
There should of been absolutely no reason for them to remove the ability of verify bets other then a rigged account is about to steal the entire bankroll and they were trying to hide evidence.
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Ok, I'm offline for a few days, invest a bitcoin, and ... now it's all gone? That really sucks. I've always wanted to put up my own dice site, or somehow automate my old lotto game (to determine winner, but prize would be sent manually from cold wallet.) But I'm not a dev, and the second best option was to invest.
I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
As much as I'd like to personally get back my 1.14 invested BTC (and to think I sent it in a few days ago.)
Oh well... I'm not online much, and I haven't posted in any other thread yet; so hold off the neg reps.
(doog, I sent you an email, or do you prefer PMs here?)
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September 09, 2014, 03:59:16 PM |
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interesting you guys still think you deserve money for advertising a site that went on to steal from customers...
give whats left to charity imo
give what's left to those investors who were cheated out of their money... I'm owed 0.3 BTC on this scam-website... The owner doesn't want to refund me because "i had the chance to divest". Even though the cheater had the server seed. It was unfair gambling, hurting the investors. |
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September 09, 2014, 04:09:51 PM |
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I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
I agree to this view: send coins now and return unused coins to dicebitcoin. If dicebitcoin want to continue their signature campaign they can make a new thread and have people join. |
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September 09, 2014, 04:20:42 PM |
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I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
I agree to this view: send coins now and return unused coins to dicebitcoin. If dicebitcoin want to continue their signature campaign they can make a new thread and have people join. DB said that Dooglus and Bitcoininformation can keep anything that's left. As I mentioned many times before, I 100% agree that campaign should be cancelled. If DB left for good and if 10BTC turns out to be not enough - things are going to be messed up at the end of the month. The funds should be divided proportionally to the rank (disregarding the post count), otherwise all of those who were away etc will feel cheated (by those who already hit the max count). We could make a voting, but the escrowers will make a decision anyways |
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