[FULL] DiceBitco.in Signature Campaign - Continued

[awesome31312]

"Payments will be made every 30th of month. Please allow up to 48h to complete all payments!"

What about February

[LtPaxIV]

"Payments will be made every 30th of month. Please allow up to 48h to complete all payments!"

What about February

i dont get it,what du u mean by saying this?u saying bitcoininformation and doog are not trustworthy enough to do the sig campaign?

[awesome31312]

"Payments will be made every 30th of month. Please allow up to 48h to complete all payments!"

What about February

i dont get it,what du u mean by saying this?u saying bitcoininformation and doog are not trustworthy enough to do the sig campaign?

Huh? What? I never said that!

[LtPaxIV]

so what does "what about february" mean then?

[awesome31312]

so what does "what about february" mean then?

There will be no 30th in February.

[mnporter2001]

so what does "what about february" mean then?

Calm down lol

Its a joke i think
Feb dosnt have 30 days

[pawel7777]

That's not a rocket science, just pay proportionally. Post the calculation before the payment, so anyone can verify.

That is what we most likely do, no need to attack me/us. And we will our calculations, of course. We want everything to be fair.

It was absolutely not my intention to be offensive or anything.

I do realise that both of you are in pretty fucked up position, DB just left you a mess to clean up, that's not right. I don't know what are the escrow terms, I hope you did get paid for this.

Anyway, massive thanks for trying to sort it out. Whatever decision you'll make - I'll respect it.

[Mitchell]

There will be no 30th in February.

I see the problem and have edited the OP accordingly. This campaign will only be done this month, but the OP was talking about payments every month. Thanks for spotting it

I do realise that both of you are in pretty fucked up position, DB just left you a mess to clean up, that's not right. I don't know what are the escrow terms, I hope you did get paid for this.

DiceBitco.in said that Dooglus and I could keep everything that's left of the 10BTC after payment, but I'm not sure if there will be anything left and if there is, if I keep it.

[jaberwock]

so what does "what about february" mean then?

Because february has no 30th day, so it would be impossible made payments at 30th in february? Just a bad off topic joke.


The campaign won't last until february and last payment was at the 31th, so it doesnt matters

[awesome31312]

so what does "what about february" mean then?

Because february has no 30th day, so it would be impossible made payments at 30th in february? Just a bad off topic joke.


The campaign won't last until february and last payment was at the 31th, so it doesnt matters

Bad off topic joke? It was a legitimate question addressing how serious you were about strictly paying on the 30th of every month.

[pawel7777]

I do realise that both of you are in pretty fucked up position, DB just left you a mess to clean up, that's not right. I don't know what are the escrow terms, I hope you did get paid for this.

DiceBitco.in said that Dooglus and I could keep everything that's left of the 10BTC after payment, but I'm not sure if there will be anything left and if there is, if I keep it.

That's the thing, it's possible that there will be nothing left and you'll end up working for free, going through all the post (possibly up to 20k), calculating pay-outs, dealing with complaints and basically doing dicebitcoin's work.

That's why I suggested this in the other thread (addressed to dicebitcoin):

...
OK. Lets be serious

You decided to call it a day and give up on DB, I understand, don't blame you for the decision. But why the hell do you want us to carry on with the signatures till the end of the month?

Can't you just give both Dooglus and Bitcoininformation a 'green light' to pay everyone sooner? I suggest giving both of them 0.25 for their trouble, and divide the remaining 9.5BTC proportionally to the rank (it's not complicated, I can do the calculation if needed).

In such scenario, everyone should be happy, people would generally get paid slightly less then when reaching max post count, but would be paid sooner and with no further need of posting. Dooglus + Bitcoininformation would get the whole escrow sorted sooner (+would get paid a little) and you wouldn't have to do all the posts verification. Everybody wins.

Sounds reasonable?


Ps I won't have much trouble in reaching the max post count (and I don't spam and am not very active), if other hit the max too, then 10BTC is not enough. If that happens - it's gonna get pretty messed up + there's a risk that Doog and BTCinformation will end up (involuntarily) being responsible for verification of posts.

EDIT: If everyone reaches max post count, it would total 18 BTC

[johnwest]

Sorry I do not want to part anymore with this site, there is so much evidence of scamming by Mateo.
Please remove me from list, I do not care if I will get any money or not but will not advertise for scamming site.

[Jungian]

Sorry I do not want to part anymore with this site, there is so much evidence of scamming by Mateo.
Please remove me from list, I do not care if I will get any money or not but will not advertise for scamming site.

Same here. I also think it's wrong that people should have to continue with the ad campaign when the owner called it quits and is very likely to have been a scammer.

Instead all the funds should be divided equally amongst the 100 participants.

[jaberwock]

Instead of adding a "this is a scam" can I add a "I do not endorse any ads in my signature"? Thanks

What if 10BTC isn't enough to cover everyone at the end of the month?

No, you cannot. A gambling website wouldn't pay you for that.

If the 10BTC isn't enough we will have to figure something out. We haven't worked out a plan for that just yet, since Dooglus had to go on a unexpected road trip.

The forum has a warning below his announcements:

Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.

And most online adversments have similar warnings. I've seen gambling sites in the forum ads, inclusive, and the spots haven't been sold for cheap.

[johnwest]

Sorry I do not want to part anymore with this site, there is so much evidence of scamming by Mateo.
Please remove me from list, I do not care if I will get any money or not but will not advertise for scamming site.

Same here. I also think it's wrong that people should have to continue with the ad campaign when the owner called it quits and is very likely to have been a scammer.

Instead all the funds should be divided equally amongst the 100 participants.

Yea there is no benefit advertise Dicebitco after so much problem and clear sign of scamming.
I know they did not scammed all 7.5k BTC but they did at the end around 500-600 BTC easily.
And last investor who were busy in RL did not withdraw lost their BTC because of that.

[pawel7777]

Sorry I do not want to part anymore with this site, there is so much evidence of scamming by Mateo.
Please remove me from list, I do not care if I will get any money or not but will not advertise for scamming site.

LOL, thought that's very noble of you, giving up the earnings etc, but then I checked your posts (not one since you enrolled)  

[johnwest]

Sorry I do not want to part anymore with this site, there is so much evidence of scamming by Mateo.
Please remove me from list, I do not care if I will get any money or not but will not advertise for scamming site.

LOL, thought that's very noble of you, giving up the earnings etc, but then I checked your posts (not one since you enrolled)  

So what, I can make posts next 3 weeks easily, is it matter much that I did not posted or not last week.
I am not always on PC like some others who stay online everytime here.

I have my RL and very happy with that. Campaign earning I use just like bonus not for feed myself.

[furiousjack]

They made a contract with you yet didnt stick with it.

Well, they currently are sticking with it, since the contract only covers if they pay for the signatures or not. Since it isn't the end of the period yet they, technically, didn't break it. I know it sucks.

Could you please update the list of members as people drop out/change signatures? Thanks

I will in a few hours, so that people have time to see this topic and decide if they want to stick with the signature or not. There are still people popping up that don't know what happened.

And: IF there is btc to spare, will I get paid for all the posts I have made over 200?

Yes, you most likely will. This, however, isn't a guarantee, so please don't kill us if we don't.

I dont think anyone should get extra cause then people will try to post more and take advanatage of that, so it will just add spam, keep it to 200 posts and surely they will be enought to payout everyone

[jaberwock]

They made a contract with you yet didnt stick with it.

Well, they currently are sticking with it, since the contract only covers if they pay for the signatures or not. Since it isn't the end of the period yet they, technically, didn't break it. I know it sucks.

Could you please update the list of members as people drop out/change signatures? Thanks

I will in a few hours, so that people have time to see this topic and decide if they want to stick with the signature or not. There are still people popping up that don't know what happened.

And: IF there is btc to spare, will I get paid for all the posts I have made over 200?

Yes, you most likely will. This, however, isn't a guarantee, so please don't kill us if we don't.

I dont think anyone should get extra cause then people will try to post more and take advanatage of that, so it will just add spam, keep it to 200 posts and surely they will be enought to payout everyone

The campaign added to possibility to pay for more than 200 posts in case-by-case analysis, but no guarantee about that. It is not something they invented only now. Check the original thread to see by yourself.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

@dooglus / @bitcoininformation:

Which rule specifically prohibits inclusion of a disclaimer? By interpreting the rules to have this clause based on 'common sense', you are making an equitable decision.

If you're willing to make this equitable decision, you should have no problem to also make another which is that the circumstances surrounding advertising DiceBitco.in has significantly changed.