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September 10, 2014, 02:58:17 PM
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Al-Qaeda was bad enough, ISIS is potentially even worse. Arab nations around the world are in disarray. Violence is everywhere on the world stage and it seems our government is about to attempt to destroy ISIS wherever they can be found. Sooner or later this probably means American "boots on the ground" back in Iraq and possibly in Syria. Like it or not we are actively involved in this crisis in the Muslim world. 9/11 and our past involvement in that part of the world.... along with our superpower status has cast us in a leading role.

Terrorism is the new religion for millions and death is their God. This is a savage God that allows no prisoners to survive and nothing is sacred. A God of immense cruelty and little logic.....and his eye is on America.

Would it not be wise under this present threat to temporary close our borders to Muslims who may come to our nation for a variety of reasons? Most Muslims live quiet peaceful lives and should not be considered terrorists. However it seems we are about to enter a new war against even a more vicious opponent than Osama Bin Laden. Can we afford to be cavalier about this? What do you think?
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September 10, 2014, 03:05:05 PM
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What about those who are coming here to ESCAPE the violence?  Should we be screening people who request visas to come here? Absolutely, we should. But just placing a blanket ban on visiting America or emigrating here based on religion? That's not a precedent I'd want to set. What's next? Expulsion of Muslims already IN America  - even as citizens?

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September 10, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
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Should we stop all Muslims from entering America?
Nope, because it's too late and they're already there. Just relax and enjoy.

Terrorism is the new religion for millions and death is their God. This is a savage God that allows no prisoners to survive and nothing is sacred. A God of immense cruelty and little logic.....and his eye is on America.
If you're christian or jewish then it's your God too.
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September 10, 2014, 05:16:05 PM
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The visa fees from people wanting to travel here from other countries should foot the bill for screening whoever these visitors are. And, if homeland security was actually worth their salt they should be scoping out Americans that are overseas and forming allegiances w/ militant orgs not worrying about veterans and constitutionalists back home.
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September 10, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
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What about those who are coming here to ESCAPE the violence?  Should we be screening people who request visas to come here? Absolutely, we should. But just placing a blanket ban on visiting America or emigrating here based on religion? That's not a precedent I'd want to set. What's next? Expulsion of Muslims already IN America  - even as citizens?
Send them to Mexico. Why are we always the world's daddy? Let other nations take them in for a change.

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September 10, 2014, 06:18:52 PM
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We could start with actually using the International Airport Screening training Israel offered us, because you sure as hell don't see much getting past the people at Ben Gurion.
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September 10, 2014, 08:12:49 PM
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For reasons like this that's why many people from all around the world hate America.

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September 10, 2014, 08:17:22 PM
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What about those who are coming here to ESCAPE the violence?  Should we be screening people who request visas to come here? Absolutely, we should. But just placing a blanket ban on visiting America or emigrating here based on religion? That's not a precedent I'd want to set. What's next? Expulsion of Muslims already IN America  - even as citizens?
Send them to Mexico. Why are we always the world's daddy? Let other nations take them in for a change.

This. No country has the 'obligation' to take anyone in. We can deny entry at any time we want, reason simply being it is our country, our decisions. Who the fuck thinks they can say otherwise? Do start bitching about 'native americans' as if you gave a shit before it was a reason to bitch about.

What about those who are coming here to ESCAPE the violence?  Should we be screening people who request visas to come here? Absolutely, we should. But just placing a blanket ban on visiting America or emigrating here based on religion? That's not a precedent I'd want to set. What's next? Expulsion of Muslims already IN America  - even as citizens?

No one asked them to come here. They beg, we can refuse. They can be settled somewhere in the middle east refugee camp. it's not our problem. They are responsible for their own futures.

As for muslims in US, they are guilty as shit. We do reserve the full right to expel them because they are outsiders and do not belong here.

We reserve the right to expel, punish, and destroy those who are not of American character, or loyal to its identity above all else. The core of american identity is western with significant influence of christianity. As a minority, I fully support the notion that any nation on earth has the right to take action against those who agitate or otherwise try to manipulate others into taking advantage of its own country for their benefit.

This is fucking common sense - something you believe you are above but you are not. Otherwise, I will be happy to enter your home and take what I want.

For reasons like this that's why many people from all around the world hate America.

Look at this cheeky fuck.

Next time anyone says they have the right to enter your home without permission, don't even think of telling them otherwise.

Anti-Americans sure are cheeky little shits.

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September 10, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
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For reasons like this that's why many people from all around the world hate America.

Pretty much, America funded Al Qaeda during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, they funded ISIS during Syria and so on and then they have the balls to declare it's all the Muslims fault that all of this is happening.
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September 10, 2014, 08:32:52 PM
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For reasons like this that's why many people from all around the world hate America.

Pretty much, America funded Al Qaeda during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, they funded ISIS during Syria and so on and then they have the balls to declare it's all the Muslims fault that all of this is happening.

LOL what a bitch Smiley

Muslims don't need help killing each other.

Vast majority of aid during soviet invasion was given to pakistanis who then dispersed them haphazardly some of which could have found their way into AQ hands.

By your logic, I should sue the car company of the offender in a car crash because they should have know their car would have crashed into mine when they sold it to the other guy.

Enough with your bitching. Do you even have any concrete evidence or shred of real information to claim that US is doing any of the things you WISH was true, so you have the reason the bitch and moan? Typical conspiracy fucker with no idea what the hell he's getting mouthy about.

You demand evidence from others, but I have yet to see any real solid word from any of you or any evidence to prove that US is the guilty one, never mind being guiltier than all the arabs who supply weapons to each other, the chinese arms finding their way into afghanistan, or russian support for factions in the middle east.

Fuck off and bitch about something else.
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September 10, 2014, 09:14:45 PM
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What's the genetic marker for Muslim?

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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September 10, 2014, 09:21:10 PM
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Tired of the entire world getting mad at america for anything that they do. America is not the worlds parents, we don't have to be involved in other countries. Everyone expects us to take care of other people's countries.

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September 10, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
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Should we stop all Muslims from entering America?

That is against the law, my friend.

No one shall be discriminated because of race, religion, sex...

I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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September 10, 2014, 10:40:37 PM
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Stopping them coming into America would probably be the best decision anyone could ever make however it's far too late to make that decision now to be honest because they are already here and there is nothing that can be done about that now.
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September 11, 2014, 12:04:24 AM
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Should we stop all Muslims from entering America?

That is against the law, my friend.

No one shall be discriminated because of race, religion, sex...

Unless they are using those very categories as identifiers and collectively try to challenge a nation state/group/individual, then they will be identified based on their race, religion, gender, etc and selectively removed.

Those categories are noose around their necks. They will be exterminated with extreme prejudice.

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September 11, 2014, 12:11:31 AM
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Not only is barring Muslims from entering America unconstitutional, but the assumption that doing so would stop terrorism is absurd.

There is nothing on the National ID that states anyone's religion. Do you really believe, that any Muslim who wishes to go to America with the intention of terrorism would actually state his religion to the authorities, if such a fascist law were ever to be passed in our nation?
Furthermore, the organizations you mentioned, Al-Qaeda and ISIS, were both funded for fully by the US government, once upon a time.

Much like other foreign immigrants from the Middle East, Muslims are already subject to harassment, discrimination, and illegal searches by the authorities. You are nine times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist, according to data from The U.S. Department of State.


And...


Data obtained from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control above further proves that you are 35,079 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

According to this source, Obesity accounts for 100,000–400,000 deaths in the United States annually, which means:

You are more 23,528 likely to die by being a fatass than get killed by a terrorist.

The 911 card is always used by politicians to try and impede our rights and take away our constitutional freedoms.

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September 11, 2014, 12:20:46 AM
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Not only is barring Muslims from entering America unconstitutional, but the assumption that doing so would stop terrorism is absurd.

There is nothing on the National ID that states anyone's religion. Do you really believe, that any Muslim who wishes to go to America with the intention of terrorism would actually state his religion to the authorities, if such a fascist law were ever to be passed in our nation?
Furthermore, the organizations you mentioned, Al-Qaeda and ISIS, were both funded for fully by the US government, once upon a time.

Much like other foreign immigrants from the Middle East, Muslims are already subject to harassment, discrimination, and illegal searches by the authorities. You are nine times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist, according to data from The U.S. Department of State.


And...


Data obtained from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control above further proves that you are 35,079 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

According to this source, Obesity accounts for 100,000–400,000 deaths in the United States annually, which means:

You are more 23,528 likely to die by being a fatass than get killed by a terrorist.

The 911 card is always used by politicians to try and impede our rights and take away our constitutional freedoms.

No straight thinking individual could ever believe this kind of weak argument is anything more than semantics and word games.

They need to set age limits on this website - this kind of 'opinion' I expect from a 15 year old. Very amateur.
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September 11, 2014, 02:27:53 AM
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Not only is barring Muslims from entering America unconstitutional, but the assumption that doing so would stop terrorism is absurd.

There is nothing on the National ID that states anyone's religion. Do you really believe, that any Muslim who wishes to go to America with the intention of terrorism would actually state his religion to the authorities, if such a fascist law were ever to be passed in our nation?
Furthermore, the organizations you mentioned, Al-Qaeda and ISIS, were both funded for fully by the US government, once upon a time.

Much like other foreign immigrants from the Middle East, Muslims are already subject to harassment, discrimination, and illegal searches by the authorities. You are nine times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist, according to data from The U.S. Department of State.


And...


Data obtained from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control above further proves that you are 35,079 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

According to this source, Obesity accounts for 100,000–400,000 deaths in the United States annually, which means:

You are more 23,528 likely to die by being a fatass than get killed by a terrorist.

The 911 card is always used by politicians to try and impede our rights and take away our constitutional freedoms.

No straight thinking individual could ever believe this kind of weak argument is anything more than semantics and word games.

They need to set age limits on this website - this kind of 'opinion' I expect from a 15 year old. Very amateur.

Ad Hominem attacks are even more amateur, and are certainly unwelcome when engaging in civil discourse.

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September 11, 2014, 03:47:29 AM
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Not only is barring Muslims from entering America unconstitutional, but the assumption that doing so would stop terrorism is absurd.

There is nothing on the National ID that states anyone's religion. Do you really believe, that any Muslim who wishes to go to America with the intention of terrorism would actually state his religion to the authorities, if such a fascist law were ever to be passed in our nation?
Furthermore, the organizations you mentioned, Al-Qaeda and ISIS, were both funded for fully by the US government, once upon a time.

Much like other foreign immigrants from the Middle East, Muslims are already subject to harassment, discrimination, and illegal searches by the authorities. You are nine times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist, according to data from The U.S. Department of State.


And...


Data obtained from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control above further proves that you are 35,079 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

According to this source, Obesity accounts for 100,000–400,000 deaths in the United States annually, which means:

You are more 23,528 likely to die by being a fatass than get killed by a terrorist.

The 911 card is always used by politicians to try and impede our rights and take away our constitutional freedoms.

No straight thinking individual could ever believe this kind of weak argument is anything more than semantics and word games.

They need to set age limits on this website - this kind of 'opinion' I expect from a 15 year old. Very amateur.

Ad Hominem attacks are even more amateur, and are certainly unwelcome when engaging in civil discourse.

Nothing is more amusing than those claiming to be victims of 'ad hominem' yet doesn't even know when they are allowed to make that claim.

When you obviously interject in an argument with baseless 'logic' with clearly subjective tangents that are only relevant in your mind, then refuse to accept your mistake, then you are putting your own character and personal stance on the line.

But you think you can mouth off and then claim 'ad hominem' Smiley
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September 11, 2014, 03:54:24 AM
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The USG can't stop Muslims from entering the US. They can only make it illegal.
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