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[topminingcontracts]

If you guys could just come down a little bit these would sell like hotcakes. I have fairly cheap power, but when I run the numbers it just doesn't work for me. What about offering a large group buy to drive the price down some?

the 3 pack is 5.44 btc  this is  to usa with shipping included  that is 530 each

If they could match the s-5  419 with  shipping included  they would sell well.


So far the 4.1 is the quietest one the three made and when heavy under clocked it is the lowest at .42-43 watts a gh.

Hi

Bitmain S5s sales at the prices required by Bitmain today are almost zero.
Spondoolies were selling the lasts SP20s under $366 shipping included is 0.31 x GH @ 0.5W x GH

For Avalon to sell significant volumes price needs to be equal or better than the SP20s that is u$s 310 (1000 GH x $0.31) including shipping.
If shipping cost per unit in 50 units pallets are about u$s 25 per unit, so FOB price of Avalon 4.1 needs to be u$s 285.- a price that the factory can't do now.

If AM is out of the game.

The question here is who Spondoolies, Canaan or Bitmain will launch the next more efficient unit.

Bitmain has already a chip that can perform much better in hand.
Spondoolies probably has the best more efficient design but looks the chip is not ready
Cannan probably can produce a new more efficient chip may be not so efficient as Spondoolies not so cheap as Bitmain

If can stay competitive in price and efficiency I think next 12 months will be good for Canaan I am very possitive on them.

Regards

Juan

[topminingcontracts]

I've been wanting to get one of these but have not a lot of available coin. I'd consider tossing in a GB, one unit in the US.

We have a large experience in GB

We did some very big ones.

I doubt Avalon price will reduce more than $5-$6 in a Group Buy because their costs.

Regards

Juan

[dogie]

Bitmain S5s sales at the prices required by Bitmain today are almost zero.

That's not true, and prices were dropped again.

For Avalon to sell significant volumes price needs to be equal or better than the SP20s that is u$s 310 (1000 GH x $0.31) including shipping.

The SP20 doesn't exist, its irrelevant.

[nexus99]

Bitmain S5s sales at the prices required by Bitmain today are almost zero.

That's not true, and prices were dropped again.

For Avalon to sell significant volumes price needs to be equal or better than the SP20s that is u$s 310 (1000 GH x $0.31) including shipping.

The SP20 doesn't exist, its irrelevant.

It set the benchmark price point.

[Bicknellski]

Plenty of USED SP20s as well as many other form factors out there now up for sale for anyone even toying with mining as well as S2s with potential upgrades as well as other units flooding the marketplace.

Nothing irrelevant in that.

[dogie]

Bitmain S5s sales at the prices required by Bitmain today are almost zero.

That's not true, and prices were dropped again.

For Avalon to sell significant volumes price needs to be equal or better than the SP20s that is u$s 310 (1000 GH x $0.31) including shipping.

The SP20 doesn't exist, its irrelevant.

It set the benchmark price point.

*Lost them lots of money and is now gone. S5's are the current price benchmark, not SP20s.

[el_rlee]

Would be really nice to have a third player on the market.

[Bicknellski]

Would be really nice to have a third player on the market.

Be nice if there was an alternative to companies that have failed to adequately deliver as promised.

Given there are plenty of used miners that are cheaper and more efficient than these makes little sense buying these.

Further it makes little or no sense for small operations to keep mining in general. If you are not a mid-sized player looking to expand at this point you are going to lose money in the longer term. If you are just doing this as a hobby then the used market is the best option.

[ScryptAsic]

If you guys could just come down a little bit these would sell like hotcakes. I have fairly cheap power, but when I run the numbers it just doesn't work for me. What about offering a large group buy to drive the price down some?

Im currently talkign with them trying to manage something. Will let you know if I get a nice reabte.  

A group buy could be nice ??

If you will join the GB let me know to have a idea.

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Valkir

I would buy a few, but it all depends on prices per unit. If they can come down I would want up to 3 units total. I already have an old Raspberry Pi to use as controller. Have them get you a price on a batch of 50 / 100 / etc..

[philipma1957]

If you guys could just come down a little bit these would sell like hotcakes. I have fairly cheap power, but when I run the numbers it just doesn't work for me. What about offering a large group buy to drive the price down some?

Im currently talkign with them trying to manage something. Will let you know if I get a nice reabte.  

A group buy could be nice ??

If you will join the GB let me know to have a idea.

Name:
Quantity:

Cheer

Valkir

I would buy a few, but it all depends on prices per unit. If they can come down I would want up to 3 units total. I already have an old Raspberry Pi to use as controller. Have them get you a price on a batch of 50 / 100 / etc..

I go shipping info on the third unit.  It should come on weds.  i hope to show a 3 unit setup.  I also ordered the newer quad rasp pi I have it on hand.  I hope to set it up with the 3 units.  I do Have the older rasp pi that uses the larger sd card a plain model b it works great with 2 of these.

[philipma1957]

I made a microcard for the quad core new faster pi.  the card works fine for the old slower model B.  it does not work for the quad core rasp pi.

So until I get an image for the quad core rasp pi  I advise anyone looking to run these to have a model b on hand.  no one has shown me a working model b plus or a working model 2 b quad core..

While this is a bit beyond my experience .  I did  get my model b rasp pi to work with 4 different cards including the microcard.  the quad core I got does work with the included micro card. anyone with a working image for the quad core feel free to send me a pm with a link.

the software included with the newer rasp pi works and the quad core rasp pi does work. so avalon need to build an image for the newer rasp pi

[dogie]

I made a microcard for the quad core new faster pi.  the card works fine for the old slower model B.  it does not work for the quad core rasp pi. So until I get an image for the quad core rasp pi  I advise anyone looking to run these to have a model b on hand.  no one has shown me a working model b plus or a working model 2 b quad core..

I didn't think they worked together but didn't want to say anything as I wasn't sure. I was really disappointed to find out that they didn't make them even remotely backwards compatible because it defaults the whole purpose of having "1" platform everyone works from. Now everyone has to start again and support TWO platforms, its silly.

[philipma1957]

I made a microcard for the quad core new faster pi.  the card works fine for the old slower model B.  it does not work for the quad core rasp pi. So until I get an image for the quad core rasp pi  I advise anyone looking to run these to have a model b on hand.  no one has shown me a working model b plus or a working model 2 b quad core..

I didn't think they worked together but didn't want to say anything as I wasn't sure. I was really disappointed to find out that they didn't make them even remotely backwards compatible because it defaults the whole purpose of having "1" platform everyone works from. Now everyone has to start again and support TWO platforms, its silly.

well I have a nice new rasp pi quad sitting in its box waiting for a working image.

this is on rasp pi people not avalon.  I can return it if I want as it was an amazon purchase.

I will need to get an older rasp pi.  plain old vanilla model b  as a backup.  Also if I split the set of three avalons and sell 1 or 2  will need the second rasp pi.  I will post a wtb in the market place.

[sidehack]

I think I got a couple running around, can send you one.

[Meech]

Sorry to hear to hear that.  I just bought a pi screen and same thing happened to me it works on model B but not pi 2.  Avalon needs to update they're image.  Seems stupid to buy old boards.  The problem with the pi's and the like is we have to wait for someone to code it.  Still haven't got my Bitcoin node running on the pi, no tutorial seems to work.  I want an Avalon to run in my house but the price needs to drop a bit.

[sidehack]

Yeah, seems stupid to buy old boards. Unless you remember the old board still has enough overhead to support 50 Avalon4.1 units stable off a full Linux install because it's more powerful than an entire desktop computer was ten years ago and there's no reason anyone would ever need a friggin' quad-core processor to run cgminer for anything less than about half a petashash worth of gear. Actually I'd be surprised if cgminer could multithread and take advantage of multicore architecture just for serial comms anyway, so there's zero reason to get the new board over the old one except it makes your penis bigger.

[dogie]

Yeah, seems stupid to buy old boards. Unless you remember the old board still has enough overhead to support 50 Avalon4.1 units stable off a full Linux install because it's more powerful than an entire desktop computer was ten years ago and there's no reason anyone would ever need a friggin' quad-core processor to run cgminer for anything less than about half a petashash worth of gear. Actually I'd be surprised if cgminer could multithread and take advantage of multicore architecture just for serial comms anyway, so there's zero reason to get the new board over the old one except it makes your penis bigger.

Its also worth pointing out that there are already 3+ million original Pis in existence, and so from that perspective should remain the focus of development. Yes it is extremely annoying that you can't buy the originals any more, and that they're not cross compatible but that is the fault of the foundation.

[sidehack]

I thought in the announcement of the new boards they said they'd continue to build the old ones? Guess I'm remembering wrong.

[philipma1957]

I think I got a couple running around, can send you one.

thanks but I purchased one on ebay. If it is a dud I will pm you for one.

I actually like that this model b used the bigger sdcard.

Sooner or later I will get around to playing with the newer rasp pi quad

[philipma1957]

I thought in the announcement of the new boards they said they'd continue to build the old ones? Guess I'm remembering wrong.

you can get model b from amazon new in box.

I have one.

Was just looking for upgraded model 2 b for more power concept.

Also I am going to sell 1 or  2 of my 3 avalons and will supply buyer with a working rasp pi.  So I had to have a second working model.