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September 19, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
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It seems that with the latest developments in the FGPA technology, we will see FGPA based mining hardwares competing with ASIC miners.

"[T]he Virtex XCVU440 All Programmable 3D IC offers 4.4 million logic cells . . . the equivalent of 50 million ASIC logic gates."

Source: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1320345
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September 19, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
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Not a chance.

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September 19, 2014, 10:57:11 PM
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enough said..
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September 19, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!
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September 19, 2014, 11:55:00 PM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!
unless Zeta = Xilinx/Altera

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September 20, 2014, 12:06:49 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2014, 12:28:58 AM by Soros Shorts
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!
How much do one of these XCVU440's go for and what hash rate do you think you can extract from it?

Edit: It looks like the chip might go for $15,000 each. You'd better be able to do 30 TH/s to beat the current $0.5/GH/s price point. Lol!
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September 20, 2014, 12:08:44 AM
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Not a chance.

Now I see where you're going. New poster, some bullshit claim that new mainstream technology will do miracles, about to post some business plan scam. Go away FFS.

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September 20, 2014, 12:10:43 AM
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It seems that with the latest developments in the FGPA technology, we will see FGPA based mining hardwares competing with ASIC miners.

"[T]he Virtex XCVU440 All Programmable 3D IC offers 4.4 million logic cells . . . the equivalent of 50 million ASIC logic gates."

Source: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1320345

Black Arrow Prospero X-1

. As this is a 100 million gate design
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September 21, 2014, 01:52:06 AM
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It seems that with the latest developments in the FGPA technology, we will see FGPA based mining hardwares competing with ASIC miners.

"[T]he Virtex XCVU440 All Programmable 3D IC offers 4.4 million logic cells . . . the equivalent of 50 million ASIC logic gates."

Source: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1320345

Black Arrow Prospero X-1

. As this is a 100 million gate design

Black Arrow is a scam company, the X1 is about as profitable as a USB block eruptor at 100Gh/s @ 1W/Gh at the wall. They're shipping worthless bricks to customers all the while mining to themselves first with Bitfury then with their own ASIC.

X3 2Th/s customers don't even get a worthless brick (8% shipped that explode and burst into flames; units no longer shipping). 40% of X1 customers have received a brick so far.
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September 21, 2014, 02:18:02 AM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!

Doubt it Smiley

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September 21, 2014, 02:25:22 AM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!

Doubt it Smiley

A generous way of saying it. Let me say it a little more forcefully. There is no way an FPGA will compete with ASICs. FPGAs waste a lot of silicon on programability.

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September 21, 2014, 02:30:00 AM
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wondr if we ever see x11 FPGA

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September 21, 2014, 02:35:31 PM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!

Not a chance.

Now I see where you're going. New poster, some bullshit claim that new mainstream technology will do miracles, about to post some business plan scam. Go away FFS.

As Stated by ckolivas, FPGA tech itself will not compete in anyway with ASIC tech today.

However innovation is always welcomed.
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September 21, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2014, 04:58:26 PM by s1gs3gv
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wondr if we ever see x11 FPGA


X11 FPGAs are a special case where FPGAs can compete with ASICS because X11 ASICs don't exist and most of the IP needed to produce a X11 FPGA implementation does, and is in the public domain.

http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes

( FPGA source code for all the NIST round 2 sha-3 candidates which comprise X11 )

Draw your own conclusions regarding complexity/cost effectiveness from the analyses included in the link.
However, its obviously less expensive to produce an FPGA based X11 system than an ASIC one because of the $NRE comparisons.

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September 22, 2014, 12:43:49 AM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!

Not a chance.

Now I see where you're going. New poster, some bullshit claim that new mainstream technology will do miracles, about to post some business plan scam. Go away FFS.

You're right:

Zeta Mining LLC., our technology start-up company located in TRNC, is getting ready to pioneer the cloud mining business. With our mining hardware product, which is based on the Xilinx 20nm Virtex UltraScale XCVU440 FGPA architecture, Zeta Mining will be the address of the most efficient, the most secure and the easiest bitcoin mining.

Our mining hardware is at its final stage of development, and as we move on from the prototyping stage to serial manufacturing, we will announce the virtual IPO of Zeta Mining.

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September 22, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
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We as the Zeta Mining team will actually prove that FGPA based mining hardwares may be capable of competing with the latest ASIC miners. Follow us!

Please do the math for us: cost and power
consumption of the FPGA vs expected hashrate.

Think we are done with this thread rather quickly then.
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