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October 05, 2014, 09:47:08 PM |
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The markets are pretty efficient and should price in the effects of halving well in advance That said, i agree that long-term btc is a no-brainer investment
Markets are not very efficient at pricing anything. Otherwise, where do bubbles and stock crashes come from?
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October 05, 2014, 10:32:10 PM |
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The markets are pretty efficient and should price in the effects of halving well in advance That said, i agree that long-term btc is a no-brainer investment
Markets are not very efficient at pricing anything. Otherwise, where do bubbles and stock crashes come from? That is not inefficiensy. It is the result of real changes in valuations from the actors in the market. Do you prefer that some lord decides for you and everybody else what has value?
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October 06, 2014, 04:52:45 PM |
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Yes it's good to buy on the dips, but at 1000 700 seemed like a dip... a big one actually. And now we are at 390 or so. Also, when it comes to halving, DOGE halving did nothing, in fact it went down, so im not sure about halving being transaltedo n the price clearly as good.
Doge was at 25 satoshi and it went up over 100 satoshi knowing halving was imminent. Investors do not wait to the actual halving then invest, they invest beforehand. Yes sure things gets calculated in price in advance. If you are sure, that Bill Gates will buy our all BTC owners, then people just dump before that actually happen.
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October 06, 2014, 08:21:51 PM |
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I hardly mine anymore. Honestly I haven't touched my bitcoin in over a year. Im holding out. I have a nice sum saved up.
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October 06, 2014, 09:16:42 PM |
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We cannot just sit and wait for the next halving time. Bitcoin price is not going rocket just because block reward is halved. We need to maintain a lively bitcoin ecosystem and make bitcoin more desirable for consumers.
i think it will happen naturaly, with so many people buying and holding bitcoins, when the companies realize this huge amount of money stoked with bitcoin users, there will be a "bitcoin rush" (like gold rush) to convince the users to espend this money with their goods. I don't think it will happen naturaly. It will happen "naturaly" if Bitcoin econmy works well, if people consume goods and services and if people work more and more with Bitcoin. If you just sit and wait, the "utility value" of a Bitcoin is equal to 0, you have to use it and work with them well not everyone need to do that, someone can just sit and watch, this what he mean with "naturally"
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October 06, 2014, 10:26:42 PM |
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long term hodl!!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 07, 2014, 02:07:09 AM |
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I agree with your opinion, if we're collecting bitcoin, should we now hold to sell bitcoin to the market, it is because the price of bitcoin that are ups and downs, our expectations if bitcoin prices later rose again, we will be able to exchange bitcoin with fiat money more ... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 07, 2014, 04:01:22 AM |
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sure q1 2016 or depends on the hash rate ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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October 07, 2014, 09:00:55 AM |
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We cannot just sit and wait for the next halving time. Bitcoin price is not going rocket just because block reward is halved. We need to maintain a lively bitcoin ecosystem and make bitcoin more desirable for consumers.
i think it will happen naturaly, with so many people buying and holding bitcoins, when the companies realize this huge amount of money stoked with bitcoin users, there will be a "bitcoin rush" (like gold rush) to convince the users to espend this money with their goods. I don't think it will happen naturaly. It will happen "naturaly" if Bitcoin econmy works well, if people consume goods and services and if people work more and more with Bitcoin. If you just sit and wait, the "utility value" of a Bitcoin is equal to 0, you have to use it and work with them well not everyone need to do that, someone can just sit and watch, this what he mean with "naturally" Yes, of course but "Hodl" cannot be the main trend. Every economy needs movement. You can have a % of your wallet as a saving but like I said, if every one hold their Bitcoins, Bitcoin economy is over in the mid-term and long-term. "Produce" it by making goods ,services or mining. Spend it in goods and services. IMO is the only way to make this work.
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October 07, 2014, 08:19:27 PM |
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The devil is in the details. "This law applies specifically when there are two forms of commodity money in circulation which are required by legal-tender laws to be accepted as having similar face values for economic transactions. The artificially overvalued money tends to drive an artificially undervalued money out of circulation and is a consequence of price control." Bitcoin is not required to be accepted as legal tender in any country at present, so the theory is irrelevant. Also, Bitcoin has been much, MUCH higher already and can swing the other way as it is doing - everyone is just speculating right now.
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October 08, 2014, 05:34:09 PM |
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Consider: Buy and hodl Bitcoin untill next halving time.
FTFY I wonder why people still want to exchange Bitcoin for fiat money in the future. Bitcoin is superior money. You don't need fiat when you can buy your stuff with Bitcoin. Regarding next halving: I predict nothing special will happen to the exchange ratio. This event is known and will have been priced in by the time it takes place. ya.ya.yo! I agree. The main reason to have a big part of my savings in fiat is because I need it to invest in the stock market. I'd love to be able to invest directly with BTC.
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October 08, 2014, 05:56:39 PM |
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Short term manipulation, long term increased value is what I see.
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kutaka
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October 08, 2014, 06:13:50 PM |
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The markets are pretty efficient and should price in the effects of halving well in advance That said, i agree that long-term btc is a no-brainer investment
Markets are not very efficient at pricing anything. Otherwise, where do bubbles and stock crashes come from? That is not inefficiensy. It is the result of real changes in valuations from the actors in the market. Do you prefer that some lord decides for you and everybody else what has value? Bubbles and crashes are one big inefficiency. Generally, I would say that markets are not efficient at all! And what lord are you talking about? People are stupid enough without lords.
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October 08, 2014, 06:24:58 PM |
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The markets are pretty efficient and should price in the effects of halving well in advance That said, i agree that long-term btc is a no-brainer investment
Markets are not very efficient at pricing anything. Otherwise, where do bubbles and stock crashes come from? That is not inefficiensy. It is the result of real changes in valuations from the actors in the market. Do you prefer that some lord decides for you and everybody else what has value? Bubbles and crashes are one big inefficiency. Generally, I would say that markets are not efficient at all! And what lord are you talking about? People are stupid enough without lords. You're confusing efficient with perfect. The market has proven efficient, if it was inefficient it wouldn't be self-correcting, but that's exactly what crashes are: corrections for when greed outpaces the fundamentals.
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October 09, 2014, 06:34:34 AM |
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now is the right time to buy bitcoin, we invest with the hope in some future time the price of bitcoin will be back to normal, for the collector bitcoin, bitcoin you should not sell to the market, because the current price is down, according to analysts, the price of bitcoin will rise again in the near future, hopefully ... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 09, 2014, 07:08:59 AM |
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The markets are pretty efficient and should price in the effects of halving well in advance That said, i agree that long-term btc is a no-brainer investment
Markets are not very efficient at pricing anything. Otherwise, where do bubbles and stock crashes come from? That is not inefficiensy. It is the result of real changes in valuations from the actors in the market. Do you prefer that some lord decides for you and everybody else what has value? Bubbles and crashes are one big inefficiency. Generally, I would say that markets are not efficient at all! And what lord are you talking about? People are stupid enough without lords. You're confusing efficient with perfect. The market has proven efficient, if it was inefficient it wouldn't be self-correcting, but that's exactly what crashes are: corrections for when greed outpaces the fundamentals. Exactly. So, next halving is not completely priced in;)
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October 09, 2014, 07:36:21 AM |
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Miners are dumping bitcoin like crazy, so if the next halving is here then the dumping is half less painful..
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October 09, 2014, 03:38:18 PM |
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Miners are dumping bitcoin like crazy, so if the next halving is here then the dumping is half less painful..
Yeah, yeah, well Im still holding until early next year.
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October 18, 2014, 01:20:02 PM |
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Buying and holding forever.
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October 18, 2014, 05:09:55 PM |
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Miners are dumping bitcoin like crazy, so if the next halving is here then the dumping is half less painful..
Yeah, yeah, well Im still holding until early next year. Early 2016 is when the next halving occurs....
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