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October 04, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
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BitcoinTalk staff quietly banned multiple accounts that were connected to Sir William’s protest against BitcoinTalk for allowing people to buy and sell their BitcoinTalk accounts.

MajidBC, the account who messaged SirWilliam in an attempt to purchase his account, is now banned along with the “CozyLife” account as they found the write-up on their practices not to their liking. CCN’s policy is only to report what authors can prove and to update the articles with new information as it arrives.

BitcoinTalk Staff Quietly Bans Those Who Speak Up

A new petition encourages Theymos, the administrator of BitcoinTalk, to give his side of the story for an addition to the article about his website, instead of quietly banning accounts. While the accounts still appear to be active accounts as their member status has not changed, the accounts in question are unable to PM people or post on the forum. The Bitcoin community is founded on decentralized behavior, and the actions of the BitcoinTalk staff reflect how centralization can effect others when a select handful of people can control the masses.

Media must follow certain ethical standards when reporting the news and at CCN, our team follows the standards to the letter. We believe that our readers have a right to know what’s going on in the world, and we don’t believe in hiding or altering any aspect of that reality. Even when it might hurt to hear the truth about something, you have the right to know that it happened. BitcoinTalk’s attempt to silence people from speaking out will not stop the media from reporting on it’s folly, but it will spur new articles on how they handled the situation. Everyone should have a voice. Everyone deserves to know the truth. You deserve to know the truth.

You’ve had to endure the dishonesty of politicians, while business owners seek to control what information you receive and form monopolies on their market. With a decentralized future, you can make decisions for yourself along with your fellow man. BitcoinTalk and other major players could benefit from a decentralized control structure. If enough people vote to remove an account, it will be removed. If enough people wish to reinstate that account, it will be reinstated. Blockchain technology makes all of this possible, and all the largest Bitcoin forum needs to do is implement it

BitcoinTalk staff wouldn’t need to moderate the forums any longer if they become decentralized, and their already existing trust from the community would only get stronger for it.

Do you think that the BitcoinTalk forum should become decentralized so that the members control the site? What ramifications would they need to consider? If there was a BitcoinTalk coin to govern the weight of people’s votes on the forum, would it be useful? Would you buy it? How do you feel about BitcoinTalk’s staff members quietly banning people for speaking out against them? Leave a comment below and express your views.

SOURCE :https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcointalk-staff-quietly-bans-people-speaking/

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October 04, 2014, 06:06:03 PM
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This is acutally a good idea, as staff for these past days have bullying members, I seen one member get banned  for small scams and the bigger ones like TF still stay here cause hes connected.  Theymos and his staff goons are just bullies with power in this forum.  Like the government,  People you shouldnt be afraid if they ban you then this forum is not worth it, move on to others, let theymos staff and mods be the fall of him.


 
 
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October 04, 2014, 06:40:09 PM
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Already posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=810935.0

I seen one member get banned  for small scams and the bigger ones like TF still stay here cause hes connected.

I doubt the reason whoever you're talking was banned was for pulling some small scams. Staff here don't handle scams or ban scammers regardless of how connected or large their scams are.

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October 04, 2014, 06:42:19 PM
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BitcoinTalk staff quietly banned multiple accounts that were connected to Sir William’s protest against BitcoinTalk for allowing people to buy and sell their BitcoinTalk accounts.


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SOURCE :https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcointalk-staff-quietly-bans-people-speaking/

Thanks for this post , I'm thinking the same thing  ... now we have just  to wait a reply from an administrator .
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October 04, 2014, 06:44:33 PM
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Thanks for this post , I'm thinking the same thing  ... now we have just  to wait a reply from an administrator .

A reply regarding what exactly?

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October 04, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
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Thanks for this post , I'm thinking the same thing  ... now we have just  to wait a reply from an administrator .

A reply regarding what exactly?

Oh yes , sorry I forgot to quote the important parts :
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A new petition encourages Theymos, the administrator of BitcoinTalk, to give his side of the story for an addition to the article about his website, instead of quietly banning accounts.


and this :


Do you think that the BitcoinTalk forum should become decentralized so that the members control the site? What ramifications would they need to consider? If there was a BitcoinTalk coin to govern the weight of people’s votes on the forum, would it be useful? Would you buy it? How do you feel about BitcoinTalk’s staff members quietly banning people for speaking out against them? Leave a comment below and express your views.


I think those is an interesting "affermations/questions" , but it is only my personal opinion  Wink .

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October 04, 2014, 07:08:11 PM
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Theymos had absolutely nothing to do with these bannings and most of the others that get banned. And this is a centralised privately-owned forum. If someone wants to create their own decentralised one they're free to do it. Creating a centralised one as he described probably wouldn't work very well for obvious reasons. Don't like what someone says? Get you and your buddies accounts and down vote to censor their posts into oblivion.

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October 04, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
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Theymos had absolutely nothing to do with these bannings and most of the others that get banned. And this is a centralised privately-owned forum. If someone wants to create their own decentralised one they're free to do it. Creating a centralised one as he described probably wouldn't work very well for obvious reasons. Don't like what someone says? Get you and your buddies accounts and down vote to censor their posts into oblivion.

Yes you're right ,  the forum has need to be centralized  . Thanks again for your reply and sorry I didn't want to be arrogant ( it is only for know).
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October 04, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
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Theymos had absolutely nothing to do with these bannings and most of the others that get banned. And this is a centralised privately-owned forum. If someone wants to create their own decentralised one they're free to do it. Creating a centralised one as he described probably wouldn't work very well for obvious reasons. Don't like what someone says? Get you and your buddies accounts and down vote to censor their posts into oblivion.

Yes you're right ,  the forum has need to be centralized  . Thanks again for your reply and sorry I didn't want to be arrogant ( it is only for know).
Theymos is responsible for the bans because hes handing power down to others to control the forum here, Hes the owner, hes responsible and guilty as anyone else is.  People are afraid to speak up.  I took a screen shot of this and if my account gets banned then Its more news to feed.


 
 
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October 05, 2014, 06:25:16 AM
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You won't be banned unless you break some rule. Seriously, this forum doesn't care about someone whining about something. I've seen far worse things been said about the staff and theymos and those threads still stay, but of course you're a butthurt conspiracy theorist so you'll make up something every time to suit your agenda.

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October 05, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
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You won't be banned unless you break some rule. Seriously, this forum doesn't care about someone whining about something. I've seen far worse things been said about the staff and theymos and those threads still stay, but of course you're a butthurt conspiracy theorist so you'll make up something every time to suit your agenda.

Oh noes! A staff member insulted me. I demand he be put to death!

I suggest trial by not spammy posts.

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October 07, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
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This is acutally a good idea, as staff for these past days have bullying members, I seen one member get banned  for small scams and the bigger ones like TF still stay here cause hes connected.  Theymos and his staff goons are just bullies with power in this forum.  Like the government,  People you shouldnt be afraid if they ban you then this forum is not worth it, move on to others, let theymos staff and mods be the fall of him.

Who is TF?

I could figure it out but I'm lazy.

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October 07, 2014, 11:15:52 PM
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Who is TF?

I could figure it out but I'm lazy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058

Original name TradeFortress.

I'm into creating universes, smiting people, writing holy books and listening to Prayer Messages (PMs).
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Thanks. Holy hell thats impressive feedback.

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Who is TF?

I could figure it out but I'm lazy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058

Original name TradeFortress.

You oughtta remember one of your best friends Vod. You and him and Blazr should be called the 3 stooges of bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125582

What do you plan to do with these accounts, out of curiosity?

I can't go into much detail as my competitors will copy me, but:

These accounts are sold to trustworthy people who use them for running businesses, alts, skipping newbie jail etc. If you wish we can inform a mod (Maged) of the sale and the account will be marked as an alt of mine.

Speak of bitcointalk corruption...


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October 08, 2014, 05:43:44 AM
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Speaking of Tradefortress

Wasn't the original TF account sold?

So this TF is not the real TF?


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No one could really prove if it was sold, and TF couldn't prove it was him or not.

So people just assume whatever they want.

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October 08, 2014, 06:57:29 PM
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You guys realize the trust system is completely meaningless, right?

So long as you can buy and sell accounts, you can get trust that you didn't earn and use it to make trades with people who don't know they are trading with a bought account.

This is why account selling should be frowned upon and not openly endorsed.

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October 08, 2014, 07:08:40 PM
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You guys realize the trust system is completely meaningless, right?

So long as you can buy and sell accounts, you can get trust that you didn't earn and use it to make trades with people who don't know they are trading with a bought account.

This is why account selling should be frowned upon and not openly endorsed.

And yet that fixes nothing, accounts will still be bought and sold. The "burden of proof" should not rest on the administrators but rather upon those wanting to trade, they are not here to hand hold. It is up to the individual to check the Trust of those they deal with and actually LOOK at what has been left and who left it. Then you can form an educated opinion if you want to believe it or not. A good thing about these buys and sells; it makes you really check the account before you trade. At least it should.
Trust is not meaningless, it is a good starting point.

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October 08, 2014, 07:12:18 PM
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Exactly, but I don't think this guy is going to get it. Most people generally do seem to frown upon account selling and it's not 'endorsed' by this site or the admins. There's a difference between endorsing something and allowing something, especially something they cannot hope to or be expected to control. Also, even if account trading was banned, that wouldn't mean it's not going to happen and suddenly make trust 'meaningful' or 100% trustable.

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October 08, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
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Exactly, but I don't think this guy is going to get it. Most people generally do seem to frown upon account selling and it's not 'endorsed' by this site or the admins. There's a difference between endorsing something and allowing something, especially something they cannot hope to or be expected to control. Also, even if account trading was banned, that wouldn't mean it's not going to happen and suddenly make trust 'meaningful' or 100% trustable.

You implicitly endorse account selling by creating "pro" arguments on its behalf. You could simply disallow open account selling on the forum, but that's too much to ask apparently.

I'm just pointing out that if you are happy with your trust system being absolutely meaningless, then by all means, carry on exactly the way you've been doing.

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