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Author Topic: FUUCK ME **** ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1%  (Read 203185 times)
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November 02, 2014, 12:51:56 AM
Last edit: November 02, 2014, 02:12:20 PM by secondstrade.com
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My calculation was very simple.

I see binary as a 50/50 chance. Maybe there are exceptions, but I think that is only for very skilled binary traders. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my idea of binary trading. In this case your site pays (at this moment) 1.85 - which is high comparing to other binary trade sites and I like that - (thumbs up).

So assuming it is 50/50 - when the house pays 1.85, the house wins 15 on every 200 stakes. 7.5% edge.

When you go to 1.80 payout it will be 10%.

But I think you (as the house) have far more experience with the actual outcomes of all the trades that players/traders make. I never knew the win rate was ~54%. It is higher than I expected.

Thanks for the calculation and keep up the good work with your site Wink

In fact , we also  thought  that  winrate might be near 50%.
But  oursite winrate is 53.44% by  5811 transaction now.
Maximun  winrate have ever been even 56% .
This is  why reward of other sites is mostly 70~75%  . But  we are 85%.
To transparent  ,  we  have always  published our winrate
On upper right hand corner .  
In fact,  when we held on event  by 90% ~ 95% for 3 weeks , we had  have minus house edge.
Our reward is 185% for all asset and all expire time frame .
we think that this  is the best reward in binary option world.
 



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November 02, 2014, 01:07:46 AM
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Thanks, I found the winrate on the right corner. I will follow this winrate the coming months, because I find this really interesting. If it goes to the 50% the coming months I will also open a binary site Tongue
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November 02, 2014, 01:44:29 AM
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I'm also curious about the explanation of the 0.1% house edge. Who knows we will get a calculation that will surprise us all  Grin
We  think that Win rate of binaryoption is 54%.
100÷54=1.851851851851852
house  edge is 0.185185...%.
100÷54.1=1.848428835489834
House edge is -0.16...%
But  if winrate is  different, house  edge can differ
Our winrate  has been  between 52.8% and 56% 
So, we think that  our house edge is 0.1%.

Winrate of Binary option is 54% ?

Where on earth did you pull that number from ?

There are two, equally likely options, which can be chosen, making the winrate 50%.

You are just fabricating this 54% winrate to make it look like a miniscule house edge, but in reality, your house edge is (1- (1.8*50/100 + 0*50/100)) = 10%

I'd say advertising your house edge as one hundredth of what it really is is really bad practice..



+1.

I am not sure about the longer term binary option, but for the short term one, it is pretty much like playing dice and betting up or down. The players have no way to reasonably predict how the exchange rate or gold price will move in the next few minutes or half an hour.

I am interested in your win rate for shorter term option (say, <30minute). Do you have it?

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November 02, 2014, 03:15:15 AM
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I'm also curious about the explanation of the 0.1% house edge. Who knows we will get a calculation that will surprise us all  Grin
We  think that Win rate of binaryoption is 54%.
100÷54=1.851851851851852
house  edge is 0.185185...%.
100÷54.1=1.848428835489834
House edge is -0.16...%
But  if winrate is  different, house  edge can differ
Our winrate  has been  between 52.8% and 56%  
So, we think that  our house edge is 0.1%.

Winrate of Binary option is 54% ?

Where on earth did you pull that number from ?

There are two, equally likely options, which can be chosen, making the winrate 50%.

You are just fabricating this 54% winrate to make it look like a miniscule house edge, but in reality, your house edge is (1- (1.8*50/100 + 0*50/100)) = 10%

I'd say advertising your house edge as one hundredth of what it really is is really bad practice..



+1.

I am not sure about the longer term binary option, but for the short term one, it is pretty much like playing dice and betting up or down. The players have no way to reasonably predict how the exchange rate or gold price will move in the next few minutes or half an hour.

I am interested in your win rate for shorter term option (say, <30minute). Do you have it?
In fact for the first time , we also  thought  that  winrate might be near 50%.
But  oursite win rate is 53.44% by  5811 transaction now.
Maximun  win rate have ever been even 56% .
This is  why reward of other sites is mostly 70~75%  . But  we are 85% for  all assets and all time frame.
To transparent  ,  we  have always  published our win rate On upper right hand corner .  
In fact,  when we held on event  by 90% ~ 95% for 3 weeks , we had  have minus house edge.

because  53.44 % is  from 5811 transaction, We  think that  this number is credible.
There is no other binary option site have published their winrate  like us.
we offer real time win rate.

transaction of our site have been mostly 1 minute though we offer 1~720 time frame.
you can regard our win rate as one for shorter term option


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We have offered 1~720min time frame since  opened.
Our win rate  is  include  long term and short term option.
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November 02, 2014, 06:46:22 AM
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Yes, currently secondstrade.com offers the best in similar binary options.

I have a website which compares binary options. I will open it by the end of this month.
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Yes, currently secondstrade.com offers the best in similar binary options.

I have a website which compares binary options. I will open it by the end of this month.

thank you, i hope that your website is opened as soon as possible.

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Thanks, I found the winrate on the right corner. I will follow this winrate the coming months, because I find this really interesting. If it goes to the 50% the coming months I will also open a binary site Tongue

yes , you have a good idea. but minimum  winrate of our site was 52.8 % , and  continually go up , then now it is 53.45%.
we think that win rate of only last week was above 54%.

this is a different thing  with other games like sort of dice.
binary option' result  can be changed  by your ability. and you can enhance your ability.

there is the reason that  reward of  the other many binary option  sites is 70~75%.

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November 02, 2014, 10:32:05 PM
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My calculation was very simple.

I see binary as a 50/50 chance. Maybe there are exceptions, but I think that is only for very skilled binary traders. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my idea of binary trading. In this case your site pays (at this moment) 1.85 - which is high comparing to other binary trade sites and I like that - (thumbs up).

So assuming it is 50/50 - when the house pays 1.85, the house wins 15 on every 200 stakes. 7.5% edge.

When you go to 1.80 payout it will be 10%.

But I think you (as the house) have far more experience with the actual outcomes of all the trades that players/traders make. I never knew the win rate was ~54%. It is higher than I expected.

Thanks for the calculation and keep up the good work with your site Wink

Yes, if simple calculration is applied to, winning  rate  may be  near  50%. But binary option is  more complicated than  general gambling game.  Binary option  use  real assets that is traded in the world.  You can predict the price with chance of above  50%.  If you trade  many game, your  ability  may   be enhanced more.   by our experience, we think that  win rate of our site may  be  above 54% this week. if such thing happen, our house's edge will be minus.
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November 02, 2014, 11:37:02 PM
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because btc-e has a problem to get  quotes,  exchange of LTC/USD index is changed now ( btc-e ==> hibtc)

changed equation of LTC/USD index is below

average of okcoin, hibtc, btcchina, huobi
(huobi/6.11187 + okcoin + hibtc + btcchina/6.11187)/4
 btcchina, and huobi are chinese exchanges, so divide the last price by 6.11187 to get the equivalent rate in USD


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November 03, 2014, 12:30:05 AM
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www.secondstrade.com is going to start a regular service  with ending beta service.
reward rate is 185% for all assets and all expire times.
this is the best reward in binary option.
we think that when reward is 185% and win rate is 54%, house edge is 0.1%.
and maximum betting amount is 0.5 BTC. you can trade what you want to. 

we hope  that we will be a innovation of binary option.
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I think other binary option trading site they had gone so far get a tremendous edge  Angry
More than different type of gambling game s

ok, i agree with you.  but i think that if winning rate may be  above of 54%, their house edge  is not such a  tremendous edge.
because all business need to investment. they may invest to make the site, advertise, etc..

but we want to reduce the cost and raise the reward as many as we can.

we made all of our site by ourselves.
advertise use only SNS(bitcointalk,  facebook, twitter, google+, raddit,  paste bin, and chatting room of exchange ...).
we  do not hire binary option broker.
we have not a wage and dividend yet. nevertheless as you know we are a deficit now (you can calculate with our winrate and our event reward)
so, we can give the 185% reward.

we want our site and service to be known  to many people.
we want to be a innovation of binary option with using bitcoin.

we do not want to seek immediate gains.



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Hi

Nice site. I love doing binary option. It would be great to stay at 195% rewards. Your site is attractive ones. Any bonus to try at here?

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Hi

Nice site. I love doing binary option. It would be great to stay at 195% rewards. Your site is attractive ones. Any bonus to try at here?

195% reward was during event, reward of our site is 185% for all asset and all time frame  now.
our bonus  is giving the best reward in binary option sites.

we think that there is no site that gives 185% reward  for all asset and all time frames.

thank you.




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Hi

Nice site. I love doing binary option. It would be great to stay at 195% rewards. Your site is attractive ones. Any bonus to try at here?

195% reward was during event, reward of our site is 185% for all asset and all time frame  now.
our bonus  is giving the best reward in binary option sites.

we think that there is no site that gives 185% reward  for all asset and all time frame.

thank you.






Yapzzz. Okay.. will try out with secondtrade.com. is there any affiliate offer?

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Hi

Nice site. I love doing binary option. It would be great to stay at 195% rewards. Your site is attractive ones. Any bonus to try at here?

195% reward was during event, reward of our site is 185% for all asset and all time frame  now.
our bonus  is giving the best reward in binary option sites.

we think that there is no site that gives 185% reward  for all asset and all time frame.

thank you.





Yapzzz. Okay.. will try out with secondtrade.com. is there any affiliate offer?

we have no affiliate offer yet. but if there is any affiliate offer, we will check it .

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Hi

Nice site. I love doing binary option. It would be great to stay at 195% rewards. Your site is attractive ones. Any bonus to try at here?

195% reward was during event, reward of our site is 185% for all asset and all time frame  now.
our bonus  is giving the best reward in binary option sites.

we think that there is no site that gives 185% reward  for all asset and all time frame.

thank you.





Yapzzz. Okay.. will try out with secondtrade.com. is there any affiliate offer?

we have no affiliate offer yet. but if there is any affiliate offer, we will check it .



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Looks interesting but where do you get your price data from? I checked on the website and I couldn't find it.

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November 03, 2014, 12:12:11 PM
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Looks interesting but where do you get your price data from? I checked on the website and I couldn't find it.

See these posts in this thread, and others:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg9110515#msg9110515
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg9367762#msg9367762

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November 03, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
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Looks interesting but where do you get your price data from? I checked on the website and I couldn't find it.

See these posts in this thread, and others:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg9110515#msg9110515
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg9367762#msg9367762
And you can see the below post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.0
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