The great debate - dank vs vod

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PROPOSAL TO dank
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dank, I am willing to have a proper debate with you.  You have shown in this thread that you can't do it in an open environment.

I suggest a neutral party create a moderated thread, where posts that don't apply to the debate can be deleted.

Each person can ask one question per post, provided they answer the question that is asked them.

Any garbage such as your philosophical comments would also be deleted.

The topic would be your debt and your obtaining new loans.

Let me know if this is something you want to do.

A debate without philosophy is no debate for me.  This thread wasn't created to talk about debts, but to talk about what is.

Because without your delusional philosophical comments to hide behind, you cannot avoid any 'difficult' questions.

I hereby officially label you "Dank the coward".

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PROPOSAL TO dank
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dank, I am willing to have a proper debate with you.  You have shown in this thread that you can't do it in an open environment.

I suggest a neutral party create a moderated thread, where posts that don't apply to the debate can be deleted.

Each person can ask one question per post, provided they answer the question that is asked them.

Any garbage such as your philosophical comments would also be deleted.

The topic would be your debt and your obtaining new loans.

Let me know if this is something you want to do.

A debate without philosophy is no debate for me.  This thread wasn't created to talk about debts, but to talk about what is.

Because without your delusional philosophical comments to hide behind, you cannot avoid any 'difficult' questions.

I hereby officially label you "Dank the coward".

I agree

[BadBear]

This thread was such a letdown, I expected Dank to actually answer questions, not use it as another soapbox. Well ok, not really.

[dank]

I have not had time to go through the walls of text, I'll try to get to it.

And how does one debate without philosophy?  That would equate to kids calling each other names.

If you're going to rule philosophy out of your thought patterns, you're leaving out half the function of your brain.

It is a necessity of adaptation to be open to differing philosophy.

[nutildah]

Great now I get to see this thread in my unread posts for the rest of my life.

[Vod]

And how does one debate without philosophy?  That would equate to kids calling each other names.

Nonsense.  Try this one:

Why don't you repay some of your debt instead of buying gas and drugs?

No name calling - just a simple debate question that you are too afraid to answer.   

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I have not had time to go through the walls of text, I'll try to get to it.

That's fine. We often forget how the voluntary unemployed have such little spare time on their hands.

[Vod]

That's fine. We often forget how the voluntary unemployed have such little spare time on their hands.

[iluvbitcoins]

Dank, why don't you get a job online?

Learn logo design, coding or video editing

Work on freelance websites, and slowly pay the debt back

[Taras]

If you guys ever need a neutral party, I'll be over here in the corner

[the joint]

I have not had time to go through the walls of text, I'll try to get to it.

And how does one debate without philosophy?  That would equate to kids calling each other names.

If you're going to rule philosophy out of your thought patterns, you're leaving out half the function of your brain.

It is a necessity of adaptation to be open to differing philosophy.

I actually completely agree with dank inasmuch as attempting to rule out philosophical arguments from a debate makes it completely pointless.

But, Dank, you are the king of grasping at straws (which happens every time we say something and you turn it into some personal tale of being persecuted for sharing your spiritual beliefs on this forum).   You rarely directly answer the questions that are asked of you.  

Also, beware of 'concept extension" which occurs when you start applying philosophical concepts where they have no business being applied in an attempt to explain everything.  In doing so, you completely dilute the strengths of those same concepts when applied in a context to which they are actually relevant.  That may sound confusing, but you can look to other disciplines to see where this becomes a problem, such as in the field of social work in which literally every societal or economic issue can be explained away in terms of 'oppression' or some other popular buzz word.  You're no different when you say things like "I am everything" and then use that principle as a starting point to attempt to explain away every possible issue or situation that arises.  Indeed, it may be a great starting point for many debate topics, but not this one.  Nobody is here to debate your philosophical beliefs, we simply want you to directly ask the questions asked of you in a format that you suggested in the OP.

If this was a philosophy or spiritual forum, then that would be great.  But you generally make only two kinds of threads here: 1) Talking about your beliefs, and 2) asking for loans.  When those are your primary motives for posting on a *Bitcoin* forum, something is obviously suspect to further inquiry.  There are much better audiences for you to preach to, so that leads me to believe that either you're unwise for selecting and persisting upon this audience, or preaching simply isn't your number one motive here (but money is).

Go ahead and use your philosophical arguments, but respond *directly* to the questions asked of you.  Otherwise, it confuses us when you say you want to debate but keep on parroting the same spiritual motives like a broken record.  Every thread of yours turns into The Dank Show and you see it as an opportunity to preach like a baptist minister.  Don't give dodgy responses.  If you're not sure what those are, then let me suggest paying attention to how many times you respond to questions about your debt to Squall with some statement about either the nature of the self or of the Universe, or some statement about your political or moral viewpoint.  Nobody will *ever* (ever!) believe that somehow not repaying Squall and focusing on a life of preaching, guitar playing, crop sowing, and raising chickens will auspiciously provide more benefit to the Universe.  If you were to magically (for you, perhaps more magical than levitating) change, address the questions asked of you directly, and make repaying your debt to squall your primary concern, I bet that would shock more people here than your nuggets of wisdom, and probably even re-instill within them some faith in humanity.

[dank]

I have not had time to go through the walls of text, I'll try to get to it.

And how does one debate without philosophy?  That would equate to kids calling each other names.

If you're going to rule philosophy out of your thought patterns, you're leaving out half the function of your brain.

It is a necessity of adaptation to be open to differing philosophy.

I actually completely agree with dank inasmuch as attempting to rule out philosophical arguments from a debate makes it completely pointless.

But, Dank, you are the king of grasping at straws (which happens every time we say something and you turn it into some personal tale of being persecuted for sharing your spiritual beliefs on this forum).   You rarely directly answer the questions that are asked of you.  

Also, beware of 'concept extension" which occurs when you start applying philosophical concepts where they have no business being applied in an attempt to explain everything.  In doing so, you completely dilute the strengths of those same concepts when applied in a context to which they are actually relevant.  That may sound confusing, but you can look to other disciplines to see where this becomes a problem, such as in the field of social work in which literally every societal or economic issue can be explained away in terms of 'oppression' or some other popular buzz word.  You're no different when you say things like "I am everything" and then use that principle as a starting point to attempt to explain away every possible issue or situation that arises.  Indeed, it may be a great starting point for many debate topics, but not this one.  Nobody is here to debate your philosophical beliefs, we simply want you to directly ask the questions asked of you in a format that you suggested in the OP.

If this was a philosophy or spiritual forum, then that would be great.  But you generally make only two kinds of threads here: 1) Talking about your beliefs, and 2) asking for loans.  When those are your primary motives for posting on a *Bitcoin* forum, something is obviously suspect to further inquiry.  There are much better audiences for you to preach to, so that leads me to believe that either you're unwise for selecting and persisting upon this audience, or preaching simply isn't your number one motive here (but money is).

Go ahead and use your philosophical arguments, but respond *directly* to the questions asked of you.  Otherwise, it confuses us when you say you want to debate but keep on parroting the same spiritual motives like a broken record.  Every thread of yours turns into The Dank Show and you see it as an opportunity to preach like a baptist minister.  Don't give dodgy responses.  If you're not sure what those are, then let me suggest paying attention to how many times you respond to questions about your debt to Squall with some statement about either the nature of the self or of the Universe, or some statement about your political or moral viewpoint.  Nobody will *ever* (ever!) believe that somehow not repaying Squall and focusing on a life of preaching, guitar playing, crop sowing, and raising chickens will auspiciously provide more benefit to the Universe.  If you were to magically (for you, perhaps more magical than levitating) change, address the questions asked of you directly, and make repaying your debt to squall your primary concern, I bet that would shock more people here than your nuggets of wisdom, and probably even re-instill within them some faith in humanity.

Sometimes the best way to answer something is through experience.

You have to connect things to the big picture to see the whole image.

What else is there to speak about other than beliefs and manifestation of those beliefs?  I do what I can to help each one of you find spiritual awakening.

You don't have to die to find heaven.

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What else is there to speak about other than beliefs and manifestation of those beliefs?  I do what I can to help each one of you find spiritual awakening.

You don't have to die to find heaven.

(Emphasis mine.)

Existence therewithout.

[Vod]

I actually completely agree with dank inasmuch as attempting to rule out philosophical arguments from a debate makes it completely pointless.

But, Dank, you are the king of grasping at straws (which happens every time we say something and you turn it into some personal tale of being persecuted for sharing your spiritual beliefs on this forum).   You rarely directly answer the questions that are asked of you.  

Also, beware of 'concept extension" which occurs when you start applying philosophical concepts where they have no business being applied in an attempt to explain everything.  In doing so, you completely dilute the strengths of those same concepts when applied in a context to which they are actually relevant.  That may sound confusing, but you can look to other disciplines to see where this becomes a problem, such as in the field of social work in which literally every societal or economic issue can be explained away in terms of 'oppression' or some other popular buzz word.  You're no different when you say things like "I am everything" and then use that principle as a starting point to attempt to explain away every possible issue or situation that arises.  Indeed, it may be a great starting point for many debate topics, but not this one.  Nobody is here to debate your philosophical beliefs, we simply want you to directly ask the questions asked of you in a format that you suggested in the OP.

If this was a philosophy or spiritual forum, then that would be great.  But you generally make only two kinds of threads here: 1) Talking about your beliefs, and 2) asking for loans.  When those are your primary motives for posting on a *Bitcoin* forum, something is obviously suspect to further inquiry.  There are much better audiences for you to preach to, so that leads me to believe that either you're unwise for selecting and persisting upon this audience, or preaching simply isn't your number one motive here (but money is).

Go ahead and use your philosophical arguments, but respond *directly* to the questions asked of you.  Otherwise, it confuses us when you say you want to debate but keep on parroting the same spiritual motives like a broken record.  Every thread of yours turns into The Dank Show and you see it as an opportunity to preach like a baptist minister.  Don't give dodgy responses.  If you're not sure what those are, then let me suggest paying attention to how many times you respond to questions about your debt to Squall with some statement about either the nature of the self or of the Universe, or some statement about your political or moral viewpoint.  Nobody will *ever* (ever!) believe that somehow not repaying Squall and focusing on a life of preaching, guitar playing, crop sowing, and raising chickens will auspiciously provide more benefit to the Universe.  If you were to magically (for you, perhaps more magical than levitating) change, address the questions asked of you directly, and make repaying your debt to squall your primary concern, I bet that would shock more people here than your nuggets of wisdom, and probably even re-instill within them some faith in humanity.

So the joint, how do you feel about taking the time to write out a well though, intelligent post, only to have dank dismiss it with his usual nonsense?

He doesn't seem to clue into the fact that he is in the wrong, ever.

[iluvbitcoins]

so, you didn't answer

why don't you get a job online?

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If this was a philosophy or spiritual forum, then that would be great.  But you generally make only two kinds of threads here: 1) Talking about your beliefs, and 2) asking for loans.  When those are your primary motives for posting on a *Bitcoin* forum, something is obviously suspect to further inquiry.  There are much better audiences for you to preach to, so that leads me to believe that either you're unwise for selecting and persisting upon this audience, or preaching simply isn't your number one motive here (but money is).

Good post. Yes, very suspect indeed. He exists on this forum to take money off the unwary. I cannot think of any other reason he's here.
Well dank am I right? Tell me different.

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What else is there to speak about other than beliefs and manifestation of those beliefs?

Let me give you a clue, this is called the bitcoin forum.

[the joint]

I actually completely agree with dank inasmuch as attempting to rule out philosophical arguments from a debate makes it completely pointless.

But, Dank, you are the king of grasping at straws (which happens every time we say something and you turn it into some personal tale of being persecuted for sharing your spiritual beliefs on this forum).   You rarely directly answer the questions that are asked of you.  

Also, beware of 'concept extension" which occurs when you start applying philosophical concepts where they have no business being applied in an attempt to explain everything.  In doing so, you completely dilute the strengths of those same concepts when applied in a context to which they are actually relevant.  That may sound confusing, but you can look to other disciplines to see where this becomes a problem, such as in the field of social work in which literally every societal or economic issue can be explained away in terms of 'oppression' or some other popular buzz word.  You're no different when you say things like "I am everything" and then use that principle as a starting point to attempt to explain away every possible issue or situation that arises.  Indeed, it may be a great starting point for many debate topics, but not this one.  Nobody is here to debate your philosophical beliefs, we simply want you to directly ask the questions asked of you in a format that you suggested in the OP.

If this was a philosophy or spiritual forum, then that would be great.  But you generally make only two kinds of threads here: 1) Talking about your beliefs, and 2) asking for loans.  When those are your primary motives for posting on a *Bitcoin* forum, something is obviously suspect to further inquiry.  There are much better audiences for you to preach to, so that leads me to believe that either you're unwise for selecting and persisting upon this audience, or preaching simply isn't your number one motive here (but money is).

Go ahead and use your philosophical arguments, but respond *directly* to the questions asked of you.  Otherwise, it confuses us when you say you want to debate but keep on parroting the same spiritual motives like a broken record.  Every thread of yours turns into The Dank Show and you see it as an opportunity to preach like a baptist minister.  Don't give dodgy responses.  If you're not sure what those are, then let me suggest paying attention to how many times you respond to questions about your debt to Squall with some statement about either the nature of the self or of the Universe, or some statement about your political or moral viewpoint.  Nobody will *ever* (ever!) believe that somehow not repaying Squall and focusing on a life of preaching, guitar playing, crop sowing, and raising chickens will auspiciously provide more benefit to the Universe.  If you were to magically (for you, perhaps more magical than levitating) change, address the questions asked of you directly, and make repaying your debt to squall your primary concern, I bet that would shock more people here than your nuggets of wisdom, and probably even re-instill within them some faith in humanity.

So the joint, how do you feel about taking the time to write out a well though, intelligent post, only to have dank dismiss it with his usual nonsense?

He doesn't seem to clue into the fact that he is in the wrong, ever.

About the same 

[the joint]

I have not had time to go through the walls of text, I'll try to get to it.

And how does one debate without philosophy?  That would equate to kids calling each other names.

If you're going to rule philosophy out of your thought patterns, you're leaving out half the function of your brain.

It is a necessity of adaptation to be open to differing philosophy.

I actually completely agree with dank inasmuch as attempting to rule out philosophical arguments from a debate makes it completely pointless.

But, Dank, you are the king of grasping at straws (which happens every time we say something and you turn it into some personal tale of being persecuted for sharing your spiritual beliefs on this forum).   You rarely directly answer the questions that are asked of you.  

Also, beware of 'concept extension" which occurs when you start applying philosophical concepts where they have no business being applied in an attempt to explain everything.  In doing so, you completely dilute the strengths of those same concepts when applied in a context to which they are actually relevant.  That may sound confusing, but you can look to other disciplines to see where this becomes a problem, such as in the field of social work in which literally every societal or economic issue can be explained away in terms of 'oppression' or some other popular buzz word.  You're no different when you say things like "I am everything" and then use that principle as a starting point to attempt to explain away every possible issue or situation that arises.  Indeed, it may be a great starting point for many debate topics, but not this one.  Nobody is here to debate your philosophical beliefs, we simply want you to directly ask the questions asked of you in a format that you suggested in the OP.

If this was a philosophy or spiritual forum, then that would be great.  But you generally make only two kinds of threads here: 1) Talking about your beliefs, and 2) asking for loans.  When those are your primary motives for posting on a *Bitcoin* forum, something is obviously suspect to further inquiry.  There are much better audiences for you to preach to, so that leads me to believe that either you're unwise for selecting and persisting upon this audience, or preaching simply isn't your number one motive here (but money is).

Go ahead and use your philosophical arguments, but respond *directly* to the questions asked of you.  Otherwise, it confuses us when you say you want to debate but keep on parroting the same spiritual motives like a broken record.  Every thread of yours turns into The Dank Show and you see it as an opportunity to preach like a baptist minister.  Don't give dodgy responses.  If you're not sure what those are, then let me suggest paying attention to how many times you respond to questions about your debt to Squall with some statement about either the nature of the self or of the Universe, or some statement about your political or moral viewpoint.  Nobody will *ever* (ever!) believe that somehow not repaying Squall and focusing on a life of preaching, guitar playing, crop sowing, and raising chickens will auspiciously provide more benefit to the Universe.  If you were to magically (for you, perhaps more magical than levitating) change, address the questions asked of you directly, and make repaying your debt to squall your primary concern, I bet that would shock more people here than your nuggets of wisdom, and probably even re-instill within them some faith in humanity.

Sometimes the best way to answer something is through experience.

You have to connect things to the big picture to see the whole image.

What else is there to speak about other than beliefs and manifestation of those beliefs?  I do what I can to help each one of you find spiritual awakening.

You don't have to die to find heaven.

Sometimes you need to lose yourself to find yourself.  Sometimes it's better to give than to receive.  Sometimes it's not the destination that matters, but the journey.

See?  I can be super duper wise, too.  But only as long as I continue to order take-out from Panda Express.

Are you even responding to my post?  I can't even tell because every word here is so vague, arbitrary, and generally void of any practical utility or value that they all could've been stated independent of my post (which you've done over and over, anyway).

Since I'm stupid and obviously can't understand the wisdom you present, would you honor me by explaining in more detail how your statements directly connect to the post I made so that I can understand why they are relevant?  For example, when you say, "You don't have to die to find heaven," which part of my post was that in response to?  Or, can you tell me what I'm missing that causes me not to see the big picture? 

At this point, I'm not really expecting much.  But hey, maybe you'll surprise me.

[Dark_Vader]

What ever you say dank Vod is winning and he is telling the truth.

Dank get a job and pay your loan back...