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November 16, 2014, 10:19:29 PM |
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Thanks for the comparison... I'd also like to add 2 more services in the list...
PBmining.com Cost: 1.4 mBTC per Gh/s ($5.36 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
CloudMining.website Cost: 1 mBTC per Gh/s ($3.83 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
I'm also collecting data about different cloud services. It is good, if someone can offer me the following data about Hashie...
How much Hashie returned last week for bitcoin mining for say 10/100/1000 Ghs hash power ?
That CloudMining.website reeks of a ponzi to me. Cheapest up front cost and no maintenance fees? I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. At least with PBmining you could say that the maintenance fees were incorporated into the purchase price.
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November 16, 2014, 10:36:26 PM |
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Thanks for the comparison... I'd also like to add 2 more services in the list...
PBmining.com Cost: 1.4 mBTC per Gh/s ($5.36 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
CloudMining.website Cost: 1 mBTC per Gh/s ($3.83 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
I'm also collecting data about different cloud services. It is good, if someone can offer me the following data about Hashie...
How much Hashie returned last week for bitcoin mining for say 10/100/1000 Ghs hash power ?
That CloudMining.website reeks of a ponzi to me. Cheapest up front cost and no maintenance fees? I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. At least with PBmining you could say that the maintenance fees were incorporated into the purchase price. Ponzi or not, this rate is not going to stay. And they said it on their own thread... This is the lowest I have come across so far. How do u guys offer GHs at such a low rate ?
There are multiple factors that enable us to offer low rate like cheap electricity etc. as you will find in FAQ. But, to be honest, the current rate is a promotional offer and we will not offer this for long...-snip-Ok... how long do u plan to have this rate ? We have certain amount of hash power allocated for this promo. As soon as they are over, we will switch to higher rate. But, while comparing, u also need to consider that they have not offered anything free up front, which was not the case for others. So, that is an extra cost for others, because nothing is absolutely free. If anyone is aware of how much HashProfit & LTC Gear returned last week for bitcoin mining for say 10/100/1000 Ghs hash power... please let me know that too.
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Mabsark
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November 16, 2014, 11:45:51 PM |
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There are multiple factors that enable us to offer low rate like cheap electricity etc. as you will find in FAQ. But, to be honest, the current rate is a promotional offer and we will not offer this for long...From that FAQ: 2.How do you offer such a low rate for GHs ? There are number of factors that enable us to offer low rate... i. We have very cheap electricity. ii. Because of our relationship with ASIC manufacturers, we get high end machines before the market does. iii. Our robust infrastructure is built and tested with time. Is their relationship with ASIC manufacturers better than ASICMiner's relationship with ASICMiner? Are they buying miners cheaper than ASICminer can produce miners? Will they get 0.2 J/Gh miners before ASICminer (samples are due next month)? AM entering this market is going to put a lot of pressure on these companies to remain competitive. How are they meant to do that though if they're up against a manufacturer who supplies them (at a profit obviously) with those miners in the first place? I found that quite amusing.
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November 16, 2014, 11:47:57 PM |
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This is a thread about Hashie. Please keep posts on-topic to Hashie, not cloud mining in general. -- Congratulations to luckynumber56 for being to 20,000th user to register on Hashie! They have won 0.1 BTC credited to their account -Sahra
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November 16, 2014, 11:52:17 PM |
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Now I have bought 1024 Gh/s Let's see if it was a good decision or a massive money loss.. I think, you are looser. I admit, I am looser too, but I risk only 20 Gh/s, which I re-sold two times at $14 on that crappy market. They have crazy sell fee's.. A fee of $1.10 + 9% is charged to the seller when the miner is sold. They should do something about that.. at least 0.2% - 1% at least.. Yes, indeed. These fees are f....n ridiculous. Compare Hashie with AMHash: Hashie Cost: $4.51 per 10 GH/s Maintenance fees: $0.002 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: $1.10 + 9% when selling AMHash Cost: 1.2 mBTC per Gh/s ($4.596 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0.00163 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: 0.4% when selling It's like hashie.co doesn't want us to get rid of our ghs. They earn enough to lower the fee's.. to make it a open market on the site. That would be much better. Hashie.co would make a bigger profit if people traded their ghs back and forth.. instead of this scary crazy sell fee. Would also to be good to put up "buy orders" and not only "sell orders".. also we should be able to pay "parts" of a miner. Not the full amount (ex. 15 BTC). That could be pretty expensive for some people..
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Mabsark
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November 16, 2014, 11:54:53 PM |
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This is a thread about Hashie. Please keep posts on-topic to Hashie, not cloud mining in general. -Sahra
What miners are Hashie using?
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ryukamiho
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November 17, 2014, 12:46:18 AM |
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stop with this non sense advertise mabsark .
A hero member doing spam what a shame.
You clearly don't even know what spam is, but then, most kids don't these days. Your signature ad is closer to spam than anything I wrote as it has no relation whatsoever to mining, making it irrelevant to the subject and unsolicited. My post is spam in the same way that disagreeing with someone online is trolling. What I posted is directly relevant to the topic that was being discussed showing exactly how Hashie's fees compare to the competition. If people involved with Hashie don't like that then Hashie need to provide a more competitive offering. It's as simple as that. Why are you complaining about me highlighting competition that would provide you with a more profitable service? If you at least did a list with like 4 or 5 examples you could say that. But you only used AM Hash as comparative and your sign is enough to say. With that alone i can say that you didnt entered here to help us fellow users. But more to create chaos and advertise about the service you are using. If you want to help us. Go to the right section create your own thread and make your comparative list with all the cloud mining services out there based on your numbers and opinion. Still a shame to see a Hero Member doing this.
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November 17, 2014, 03:32:29 AM |
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Thanks for the comparison... I'd also like to add 2 more services in the list...
PBmining.com Cost: 1.4 mBTC per Gh/s ($5.36 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
CloudMining.website Cost: 1 mBTC per Gh/s ($3.83 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
I'm also collecting data about different cloud services. It is good, if someone can offer me the following data about Hashie...
How much Hashie returned last week for bitcoin mining for say 10/100/1000 Ghs hash power ?
That CloudMining.website reeks of a ponzi to me. Cheapest up front cost and no maintenance fees? I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. At least with PBmining you could say that the maintenance fees were incorporated into the purchase price. i agree with you on that but in all honesty i have seen people say PB is ponzi trap for several months. I personally dont use them so i cant give factual results
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DARKANGEL6415
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November 17, 2014, 03:35:18 AM |
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This is a thread about Hashie. Please keep posts on-topic to Hashie, not cloud mining in general. -- Congratulations to luckynumber56 for being to 20,000th user to register on Hashie! They have won 0.1 BTC credited to their account -Sahra wait you telling me there was a promotion to give free btc i bet you with my luck i was user 19,999 or 20001 lol
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ajw7989
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November 17, 2014, 03:55:01 AM |
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Thanks for the comparison... I'd also like to add 2 more services in the list...
PBmining.com Cost: 1.4 mBTC per Gh/s ($5.36 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
CloudMining.website Cost: 1 mBTC per Gh/s ($3.83 per 10 Gh/s @ 383 $/BTC) Maintenance fees: $0 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: None
I'm also collecting data about different cloud services. It is good, if someone can offer me the following data about Hashie...
How much Hashie returned last week for bitcoin mining for say 10/100/1000 Ghs hash power ?
That CloudMining.website reeks of a ponzi to me. Cheapest up front cost and no maintenance fees? I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. At least with PBmining you could say that the maintenance fees were incorporated into the purchase price. i agree with you on that but in all honesty i have seen people say PB is ponzi trap for several months. I personally dont use them so i cant give factual results I highly doubt pb mining is a ponzi considering they will be in business for almost a year now. They might close shop eventually but i doubt a ponzi
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hashie
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November 17, 2014, 04:33:15 AM |
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I highly doubt pb mining is a ponzi considering they will be in business for almost a year now. They might close shop eventually but i doubt a ponzi
MtGox has been running in Ponzi mode since the 2011 hack. When a cloud mining service provider offers miners below cost (when taking in account maintenance fees), it is guaranteed to be a ponzi. How long they can last is only dependent on their rate of growth. No maintenance fees at their pricing is simply impossible. There's no question about that, and people who believe in it are delusional, or are gambling and their defense mechanisms are kicking in. PS: This thread is about Hashie, it's not about discussions of general cloud mining. -Sahra
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November 17, 2014, 04:35:34 AM |
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can we get some proof? proof you posted doesn't mean shit you could have easily rented hashing power
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Mabsark
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November 17, 2014, 04:47:46 AM |
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i agree with you on that but in all honesty i have seen people say PB is ponzi trap for several months. I personally dont use them so i cant give factual results
I highly doubt pb mining is a ponzi considering they will be in business for almost a year now. They might close shop eventually but i doubt a ponzi When people call these services ponzis, they're not necessarily saying that the service is definitely going to rip you off, they're suggesting that the dividends you are being paid does not come from mining, but from customers buying new contracts. These services don't actually need physical miners as demonstrated by Deprived Mining Speculation (Deprived vanished with everyone's money) and Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (which is still running). Those service basically have 2 components - MINE and SELL and SELL has always been vastly more profitable to hold (B.MINE=69.86% vs B.SELL=563.49% yield on Havelock). So, these services could simply be difficulty speculation services like the two described above, only they're keeping all the SELL component to themselves and flogging the MINE component to customers No maintenance fees at their pricing is simply impossible. There's no question about that, and people who believe in it are delusional, or are gambling and their defense mechanisms are kicking in.
PS: This thread is about Hashie, it's not about discussions of general cloud mining. -Sahra
Well, I did ask a question about Hashie and you ignored it. Regarding maintenance fees, you actually don't need them if you don't have any miners to maintain. And if you do charge maintenace fee but don't have any miners to maintain, then that's just extra profit. So, what miners are Hashie using? Any pictures of your mining farm? Also, it's infuriating when people don't provide essential information required to make informed decisions and you have to go digging through shit to find it. Instead of telling me that you have "low maintenance fees", tell me exactly what those fees are. And by "tell me", I mean stick it in the OP and on your website. Same with trading fees. Prospective customers shouldn't need to read 30 pages on a forum in order to get basic essential info.
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Miss Fortune
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November 17, 2014, 05:47:42 AM |
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is there any hidden requirements for the 10ghs ?
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jasabbm
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November 17, 2014, 08:39:05 AM |
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This is a thread about Hashie. Please keep posts on-topic to Hashie, not cloud mining in general. -- Congratulations to luckynumber56 for being to 20,000th user to register on Hashie! They have won 0.1 BTC credited to their account -Sahra how to see user ID number ?
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jasabbm
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November 17, 2014, 08:39:42 AM |
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is there any hidden requirements for the 10ghs ?
Hidden requirement is you must deposit first when you want to witdraw the free GHs
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November 17, 2014, 11:19:11 AM |
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I added hashie.co to my cloudmining overview here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860400So far, it scores 6/7 on my ponzi scale, but I might have missed some things. If I got anything wrong, please provide corrections.
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Caernarvon
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November 17, 2014, 12:01:10 PM |
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can we get some proof? proof you posted doesn't mean shit you could have easily rented hashing power
Hashie answer questions if you want your business to succeed but this is clearly a fucking ponzi
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hashie
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November 17, 2014, 12:27:49 PM |
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can we get some proof? proof you posted doesn't mean shit you could have easily rented hashing power
Hashie answer questions if you want your business to succeed but this is clearly a fucking ponzi Sounds like you've already made up your mind, good luck selling your LTCGear shares Replied to you in the thread. -Sahra
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hashie
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November 17, 2014, 12:55:46 PM |
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So, which competitor are you, 1 week old account trying to sell LTCGear shares? We're definitely doing business right when we're facing DDoS attacks (from multiple sources nonetheless), newbie troll/FUD armies and more while thousands are registering on Hashie every day. -Sahra
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