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July 08, 2012, 08:39:20 PM
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...snip...

You only said "entitled" to which I said "of course not". If you had said "legally entitled", I would have said what I said 3 quotes up. I know, you're confused.

So you are skipping contributions now.  And then you change your mind at age 70 and get payments out of the system.

Congratulations!  You have found a way to rip off people who work and pay their dues all their lives.  

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July 08, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
 #102

...snip...

You only said "entitled" to which I said "of course not". If you had said "legally entitled", I would have said what I said 3 quotes up. I know, you're confused.

So you are skipping contributions now.  And then you change your mind at age 70 and get payments out of the system.

Congratulations!  You have found a way to rip off people who work and pay their dues all their lives.  

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July 08, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
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...snip...

You only said "entitled" to which I said "of course not". If you had said "legally entitled", I would have said what I said 3 quotes up. I know, you're confused.

So you are skipping contributions now.  And then you change your mind at age 70 and get payments out of the system.

Congratulations!  You have found a way to rip off people who work and pay their dues all their lives.  

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No! You win.  You are not contributing and then you can claim.  What a clever guy you are!

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July 08, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
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Because this anonymous "source" is absolute fact, right... do you also use Wikipedia as you prepare to file court briefs in pro per?

http://www.ask.com/answers/62035321/do-i-qualify-for-social-security-benefits-as-a-paroled-ex-felon

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July 08, 2012, 09:42:58 PM
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If you have a source that says our beloved cryptoanarchist can't claim social security at 70, great.  If not, what are you trying to say here?

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July 08, 2012, 09:46:39 PM
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If you have a source that says our beloved cryptoanarchist can't claim social security at 70, great.  If not, what are you trying to say here?

That you act like the internets are a perfect substitute for paid, or even pro-bono legal counsel... LOL ridiculous.

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July 08, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
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If you have a source that says our beloved cryptoanarchist can't claim social security at 70, great.  If not, what are you trying to say here?

That you act like the internets are a perfect substitute for paid, or even pro-bono legal counsel... LOL ridiculous.

But you have no doubt that he is entitled to claim social security benefits after years of avoiding contributions.  That is not LOL ridiculous at all is it. 

Complaining that the source is not your standard but that data is correct is a stupid point.  Try to make an intelligent point. 

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July 08, 2012, 11:55:26 PM
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YOU make the extraordinary claims, so it's up to YOU to provide at the very least ordinary, not random internet BS, proof. Show us a US Supreme Court ruling, an appellate court ruling, sworn congressional testimony that was recorded or transcribed by CSPAN or another official source, ANYTHING on any government website, or fall on your sword of BS, NOT TRUTH.

I have every doubt of what YOU claim is reality, since you seem to do nothing but substitute your own. Just because someone doubts your bloody fantasies and bullshit "proof" does not mean they are certain of, or are arguing, a fucking thing, other than that you are full of unsubstantiated BS.

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July 08, 2012, 11:57:13 PM
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I get a lot of income from overseas, and as much I think I should be allowed to Opt-Out of Social Security and receive a return of all I have paid in, even if it's a rollover to a Roth IRA of my choice. It's my cash and I hate it that the Government gets to force me to invest in Social Security, I should have the choice.

Sign this petition, let's see if it works:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/allow-citizens-opt-out-social-security-taxes-and-return-them-all-money-paid-upon-opt-out/KLcN0850

Link doesn't work. It gets redirected to https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-citizens-opt-out-social-security-taxes-and-return-them-all-money-paid-upon-opt-out/KLcN0850

and displays the following

Thanks for your interest in We the People, a new tool on WhiteHouse.gov that allows all Americans to ask the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country.

The petition you are trying to access has expired, because it failed to meet the signature threshold.

While you can't sign this petition, there may be other petitions on We the People on a similar issue that you'd like to add your name to. Or, you can create your own petition.

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July 08, 2012, 11:59:32 PM
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Thanks for your interest in We the People, a new tool on WhiteHouse.gov that allows all Americans to ask the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country.

The petition you are trying to access has expired, because it failed to meet the signature threshold.

Not that they would have listened, anyway, or Marijuana would be legal by now.

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