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November 10, 2014, 06:40:14 AM
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available for sale and in stock on nov 15?  that's only 5 days from now and still no word on specs or pricing?  i guess they need the hype if they hope to sell sell sell.
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November 10, 2014, 08:02:07 AM
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available for sale and in stock on nov 15?  that's only 5 days from now and still no word on specs or pricing?  i guess they need the hype if they hope to sell sell sell.

They don't need hype.  The clowns around here would buy a boat anchor for a million bucks if it mined even a tenth of a Bitcoin.
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November 10, 2014, 08:36:17 AM
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Seems like BM has learned from their preorder mayham..

Thank you Bitmain. From the special place in my heart that belongs to pre-order people.. thank you for not doing it again! Smiley
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November 10, 2014, 08:57:42 AM
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available for sale and in stock on nov 15?  that's only 5 days from now and still no word on specs or pricing?  i guess they need the hype if they hope to sell sell sell.

Most likely a delay, they normally announce 2-3 weeks before.

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November 10, 2014, 10:05:14 AM
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Are you idiots still wanting to BUY DONATE with your hard earned money ?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-21/bitcoin-miner-ditches-clients-to-chase-2-billion-coding-prize.html
I would just flush mine in a toilet if i hate money that much

“There’s still going to be $2 billion, at today’s price, mined in the next few years,” Cole said in a phone interview. “That’s a lot of cash that’s up for grabs and we’re going to do our best to take a decent chunk of it.”

What an unbelievably shameless greedy bastard. Fuck that guy.
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November 10, 2014, 10:27:20 AM
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You guys don't realize this is a race to the next halving in 2016? Some players are racing to the 2020 halving!
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November 10, 2014, 10:58:26 AM
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Seems like BM has learned from their preorder mayham..

Thank you Bitmain. From the special place in my heart that belongs to pre-order people.. thank you for not doing it again! Smiley

L1 have been the only preorder preoders they've ever done, but S5 will be sold from hard stock I believe.

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November 10, 2014, 02:28:02 PM
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Did Bitmain have an official announcement thread on the S5? 

Don't see it on their website yet.

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November 10, 2014, 02:55:03 PM
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Seems like BM has learned from their preorder mayham..

Thank you Bitmain. From the special place in my heart that belongs to pre-order people.. thank you for not doing it again! Smiley

L1 have been the only preorder preoders they've ever done, but S5 will be sold from hard stock I believe.

that would be nice.  hopefully it is  a decent piece of gear

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November 10, 2014, 04:38:52 PM
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Most likely liquid cooled again, looks like liquid bubbles behind the S5 lettering.

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November 10, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
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My bet is on it being a hybrid between S3 and Prisma (AM). Maybe 1.2-1.3 TH for 1-1.1 BTC, hopefully.

With new Avalon4 (1Th for 470 $) it (S5) should be at least not worse than Avalon4...

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November 10, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
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Did Bitmain have an official announcement thread on the S5? 

Don't see it on their website yet.

Not seeing anything yet

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November 10, 2014, 07:58:05 PM
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Seems like BM has learned from their preorder mayham..

Thank you Bitmain. From the special place in my heart that belongs to pre-order people.. thank you for not doing it again! Smiley

L1 have been the only preorder preoders they've ever done, but S5 will be sold from hard stock I believe.

True, but the issues with delayed shipping etc. on the S3 have people thinking it was a preorder thing aswell - at least, I think they wanted to get cash in right away, insted of waiting for stock to be ready and testing be completed.
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November 10, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
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available for sale and in stock on nov 15?  that's only 5 days from now and still no word on specs or pricing?  i guess they need the hype if they hope to sell sell sell.

They don't need hype.  The clowns around here would buy a boat anchor for a million bucks if it mined even a tenth of a Bitcoin.

How much power does "The Boat Anchor" Bitcoin miner use?  I am interested.
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November 10, 2014, 10:44:29 PM
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It looks like a galaxy photo to me, not bubbles. Maybe it runs so hot that it needs to be in the vacuum of space where it can't burst into flames.  Wink
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November 10, 2014, 11:05:56 PM
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It looks like a galaxy photo to me, not bubbles. Maybe it runs so hot that it needs to be in the vacuum of space where it can't burst into flames.  Wink


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November 11, 2014, 02:53:27 AM
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If Bitmain doubles the chips like they did with the S2; the S5 could be the best miner available.
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November 11, 2014, 08:48:55 AM
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If home mining isn't completely dead yet, it will soon be time to pull the plug and let it slide into darkness.

Casual home miners have 2 advantages over mining farms:

1. They might not care about electricity cost
Some of the miners run their rig as heating devices, some of them are living in a apartment that electricity is included in the rent. Once the electricity cost is gone, they are forever profitable

2. They can run in underwater
Even the electricity cost is higher than the coins, miners just regard this as a hobby and using those costs to get some mining pleasure, like paying money to play a game: Operating your little gold mine is fun

On the contrary, large mining farms are business oriented, if they could not sell the mined coins at profit, they will take a loss. No business can run too long with a negative profit, the larger the scale the less likely they can hold on

As a result, those mining farms will be shutdown by a sustained high difficulty and low bitcoin price, and mining rigs will be sold to those fans who does not care about the electricity cost

To prevent such scenario from happening, large mining farms might seek ways to lower the electricity cost, team up with large power supplier or build their own power grid. Another way is to sell the heat as a service, for example providing warm water for apartments. so that they never run underwater. But both are long processes, without a firm believe in bitcoin, normal farms will just shutdown

Because of the exponentially higher cost of lower chip nm process, high efficiency miners will be very expensive thus incur a larger risk even before running, just like few people purchased FPGA miners in GPU era

Maybe in future, majority of the mining chips will be built into heating devices, and sold into high latitude area or heat providing companies

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November 11, 2014, 04:13:23 PM
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If home mining isn't completely dead yet, it will soon be time to pull the plug and let it slide into darkness.

Casual home miners have 2 advantages over mining farms:

1. They might not care about electricity cost
Some of the miners run their rig as heating devices, some of them are living in a apartment that electricity is included in the rent. Once the electricity cost is gone, they are forever profitable

2. They can run in underwater
Even the electricity cost is higher than the coins, miners just regard this as a hobby and using those costs to get some mining pleasure, like paying money to play a game: Operating your little gold mine is fun

On the contrary, large mining farms are business oriented, if they could not sell the mined coins at profit, they will take a loss. No business can run too long with a negative profit, the larger the scale the less likely they can hold on

As a result, those mining farms will be shutdown by a sustained high difficulty and low bitcoin price, and mining rigs will be sold to those fans who does not care about the electricity cost

To prevent such scenario from happening, large mining farms might seek ways to lower the electricity cost, team up with large power supplier or build their own power grid. Another way is to sell the heat as a service, for example providing warm water for apartments. so that they never run underwater. But both are long processes, without a firm believe in bitcoin, normal farms will just shutdown

Because of the exponentially higher cost of lower chip nm process, high efficiency miners will be very expensive thus incur a larger risk even before running, just like few people purchased FPGA miners in GPU era

Maybe in future, majority of the mining chips will be built into heating devices, and sold into high latitude area or heat providing companies

I agree. Re mining/heating. It is somewhat true, but the most benefit is when the cost of heating by electricity is lower that the cost of heating by natural gas.
Right now (in US at least), natural gas is cheaper, so although you get heating benefit, I calculated that is it is at most 30% of miners' electricity cost.
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November 12, 2014, 06:47:33 AM
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so it will be soon launched and still no details ?
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