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November 06, 2014, 01:18:44 AM
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Esoteric Investments is out of air.
I have made a copy of the site: http://web.archive.org/web/20141030023245/https://www.esotericinvestments.com/
Seems that I am the only one that is scamed by Eso

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November 06, 2014, 02:06:12 AM
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So good news! The public site will be brought back soon in the next day or two probably with ddos protection from www.zionvps.com (very likely to choose them however still snooping around a bit more to make sure their service is everything they say it is, with two other choices as fallbacks). Our goal is to have all accounts and the site fully functional before the end of the week either with ZionVPS or another hosting company that can mitigate attacks.

We are still not accepting any new clients or additional deposits, and this will go on indefinitely. I know this must be a bummer to many of you who actively marketed your affiliate link and planned to continue to do so. However for the pool it is the right decision and we apologize for any inconveniences it may cause.
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November 06, 2014, 02:12:25 AM
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Esoteric Investments is out of air.
I have made a copy of the site: http://web.archive.org/web/20141030023245/https://www.esotericinvestments.com/
Seems that I am the only one that is scamed by Eso

PM me your account username and email info we will send you the private site while the public one is put back up with a new host. We have been cautiously sending them out as we can't ensure an investor isn't involved in the attack. So if we sent it out to one person and then attacks just started happening again, we could pretty much narrow it down to who it may be. We still are not going to send them all out at once because the downtime of another day or two from another attack is still annoying.

But since we're getting the protected VPS if we send it out and attacks happen for another ransom, it will be pointless because they will be mitigated in the next day or two with Zion hosting.
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November 06, 2014, 07:32:30 AM
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But since we're getting the protected VPS if we send it out and attacks happen for another ransom, it will be pointless because they will be mitigated in the next day or two with Zion hosting.

Do you really think you can get DDoS protection for anything between $6.50 and $19.50? Then you must be naive!
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November 06, 2014, 09:26:23 AM
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Eso is back online!
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November 06, 2014, 09:44:28 AM
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Eso is back online!

Lol, great first post.
You're looking pretty amateurish at the moment Dan. Starting an 'investment' site and taking people's coin, with no DDOS strategy.... Sad

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November 06, 2014, 09:54:34 AM
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He needs to create plenty new accounts to get rid of the negative trust and to rig the poll.
Doesnt look very good at the top of your own thread when the poll show only 10% of voters believe you are honest, and 100% of those are the operators / referral cockroaches.
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November 06, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
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Eso is back online!

Lol, great first post.
You're looking pretty amateurish at the moment Dan. Starting an 'investment' site and taking people's coin, with no DDOS strategy.... Sad

lol silly rabbit, i'm the same user digicoinz, the idiot moderator banned me from posting cause I posted the october ops link in two separate posts on this thread.

lol wat a joke this forum is.

but yup the site is back online. Smiley
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November 06, 2014, 10:06:18 AM
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He needs to create plenty new accounts to get rid of the negative trust and to rig the poll.
Doesnt look very good at the top of your own thread when the poll show only 10% of voters believe you are honest, and 100% of those are the operators / referral cockroaches.

nope, i set up that pole. and we all know the negative voters are puppet, nutilda, and the other trollers of this thread.

so nice try.
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November 06, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
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He needs to create plenty new accounts to get rid of the negative trust and to rig the poll.
Doesnt look very good at the top of your own thread when the poll show only 10% of voters believe you are honest, and 100% of those are the operators / referral cockroaches.

Fwiw, I voted undecided.
They won't get any of my coins and I wouldn't be surprised if they fail, but I think it would be from over optimism and amateurishness more than setting out to be a Ponzi from the get go, like this piece of shit, for example http://expertbtc.com/ .

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November 06, 2014, 10:17:23 AM
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They are indeed amateur scammers, but that doesnt change the fact they are scammers.
If you truly believe they traded "something" for 2 months and never made a loss any single day, then I have a cloud hashing contract to sell to you.
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November 06, 2014, 10:25:23 AM
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They are indeed amateur scammers, but that doesnt change the fact they are scammers.
If you truly believe they traded "something" for 2 months and never made a loss any single day, then I have a cloud hashing contract to sell to you.


libel libel libel libel libel libel


love how idiots make baseless accusations.


puppet, how about you stfu, shove your comments up your ass, and when you actually have some proof to what you say, then please, please post them.

punk ass loser


that applies to all the others as well, you know who you are Wink

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November 06, 2014, 10:43:48 AM
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They are indeed amateur scammers, but that doesnt change the fact they are scammers.
If you truly believe they traded "something" for 2 months and never made a loss any single day, then I have a cloud hashing contract to sell to you.

Lol, I hear where you're coming from. I see they like Cannabiscoin, maybe they smoke long positions that don't work out.
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More quality posting from the sock.

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November 06, 2014, 10:49:19 AM
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love how idiots make baseless accusations.

puppet, how about you stfu, shove your comments up your ass, and when you actually have some proof to what you say, then please, please post them.

You wouldnt believe how often I heard that same shit before.  Check my posting history, unlike you, Ive been around the block, now find me one single instance where I was wrong. Im not gonna "stfu" just because you dont want me to prevent you from earning a few satoshi by duping others.

Besides, the proof is there for all to see. Aside from the obvious and obviously unprovable ponzi attempt, there is no discussion they are selling unregistered investment contracts to unsophisticated investors.. That makes them scammers by definition (not that I believe running an online lottery from NJ is legal if you are not a registered casino).
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November 06, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
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love how idiots make baseless accusations.

puppet, how about you stfu, shove your comments up your ass, and when you actually have some proof to what you say, then please, please post them.

You wouldnt believe how often I heard that same shit before.  Check my posting history, unlike you, Ive been around the block, now find me one single instance where I was wrong. Im not gonna "stfu" just because you dont want me to prevent you from earning a few satoshi by duping others.

Besides, the proof is there for all to see. Aside from the obvious and obviously unprovable ponzi attempt, there is no discussion they are selling unregistered investment contracts to unsophisticated investors.. That makes them scammers by definition (not that I believe running an online lottery from NJ is legal if you are not a registered casino).

again you all you have done is make accusations. you provide no proof in anything you say. all you do is cry ponzi ponzi ponzi. yet where is this ponzi you speak of?
show a screenshot, something anything, besides just words. cause you look stupid right now. and fyi, i do trading myself on trex/cryptsy same as the owners of the company. i actively talk with them at the same time they're doing it, and as they give me tips and what coins to keep an eye on. like for example right now blocknet is hot to watch. its over 150btc volume and they just started trading at 3am. furthermore trex put a refund wall that has never happened before while a trade is active. so its actually insuring the price that block ico'd at.

this is gonna rocket to the moon! and then when you see the price change that happens there, you can see the profits possible since you think you know so much.

and what are you talking about, the bitcoin lottery is just a web based game with bitcoins. its not a lottery in the sense of what a state lottery is. the only bitcoins in that lottery is between the users only, the house is not involved.

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November 06, 2014, 11:04:29 AM
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Hey digi, I found this in my inbox:

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Subject: Dear Respected One,

Dear Respected One,

GREETINGS,

Permit me to inform you of my desire of going into business relationship with you. I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by the recommendations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.

I am Wumi Abdul; the only Daughter of late Mr and Mrs George Abdul. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan,the economic capital of Ivory Coast before he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outing to discus on a business deal. When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother HASSAN special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 30th June 2002 in a private hospital here in Abidjan. He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $12.500.000 (Twelve Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank here in Abidjan, that he used my name as his first Daughter for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.

He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth and some huge amount of money his business associates supposed to balance his from the deal they had that he was poisoned by his business associates, that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management). Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.

1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.

2) To serve as the guardian of this since I am a girl of 26 years.

Moreover Sir, we are willing to offer you 15% of the sum as compensation for effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your designate account overseas. please feel free to contact ,me via this email address
wumi1000abdul@yahoo.com

Anticipating to hear from you soon.
Thanks and God Bless.
Best regards.
Miss Wumi Abdul

PLEASE FOR PRIVATE AND SECURITY REASONS,REPLY ME VIA EMAIL:
wumi1000abdul@yahoo.com

Unlike esoshit, I can not prove its a scam, so it seems like a fabulous business opportunity for you.  Let us all know how it worked out!
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November 06, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
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Man you trollers are such sheeple following each other in whatever the one says.

Yea I don't give two shits about my trust rating, and I don't give two shits about that poll, and I don't give two shits about a bitcointalk thread I didn't make any of these threads or polls. I'm happy digi did made it so I can reach out to people that need to know information about Esoteric but thats it. Didn't get involved on the thread to gain an approval rating of any sort I know what I'm doing is honest, so I don't give two shits if you do. And anyway we aren't taking more deposits so I don't need any of you to think its honest or not the people that are in the pool currently will continue to get the payouts we get from the trades and everyone else gets to continue bitching here that they wish they had as much bitcoin as we do to trade in the markets. Hopefully a few of you get the honor of us dumping on you some nice big bags to hold.

By the way sunny is that bet still open 2:1 odds that we are a ponzi scheme that's gonna run away with everyone's money. I STILL WANT IN! or you can say no and actually prove that your just full of shit posting on here just to post on here. Because you were too scared to put your money where your mouth was before so I am assuming you still are, just want to expose that to everyone on the thread since I actually have some grounds and proof behind it you being full of it, more proof then you can say you ever had.

Also since your so knowledgeable about DDOS attacks and protection, they're really not that hard to mitigate and stop when you have the infrastructure in place like any data center that guarantees 99.9% up time has. So by saying that just proves you have no idea, and again you all are saying shit just to say it adding to the horrible name that bitcoin talk has been getting the past few months.

and we do make losses no good trader makes only gains from every trade they do, but a good trader makes more gains then his losses from stopping his losses at a point that's less then the gains, and again this proves you guys have no idea! This is why we started a pool because all of you dummies have no idea how to trade right and we tried putting out instructionals and tried to teach and say what coins to get into and at what prices but none of it really took. So now its at a point just give us the coin and we'll take our large cut of the profits and you just get a small consistent return. Anyone that's been involved with that has been happy from it so the service we have been providing is fine as far as I can see. And since we really have no responsibilities to make you trolls happy and making all you trolls happy is impossible anyway, we're done trying. So screw trying to produce transparency screw showing you all of our past trades etc none of you have any reason to know that stuff, and the only ones who do are the ones that aren't even asking for it. It also takes a lot of time away from our analysis of markets. So here on out that's how its working the people invested will get paid out till their terms expire as they have been and we're focusing on ensuring those payouts. We're done with all this other crap to please all the trolls here.

OK going back to not responding to stupid FUD with nothing behind its reasoning cause you folks like to see your own text and point to your crypto friends and say "Hey I wrote this look look!" as if it makes you a valued opinion here in the ecosystem. Talk to me about the markets on here and you'll see who has an actual valuable opinion and who has no idea what crypto is and what they spend hours on forums being involved in.

Oh and www.esotericinvestments.com is back online with everyone's accounts up to date with all the payouts from the last few days.
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November 06, 2014, 11:19:55 AM
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Im still game for a bet. One condition is that you prove your liability to your clients victims significantly exceeds the size of the bet. Im not gonna bet you 100 BTC if your liability is only 10 BTC.
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November 06, 2014, 12:32:54 PM
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We all are still waiting for a trading proof. No real-time one, just to verify your daily results are based on real trading results.
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November 06, 2014, 01:34:29 PM
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They are indeed amateur scammers, but that doesnt change the fact they are scammers.
If you truly believe they traded "something" for 2 months and never made a loss any single day, then I have a cloud hashing contract to sell to you.


libel libel libel libel libel libel


love how idiots make baseless accusations.


puppet, how about you stfu, shove your comments up your ass, and when you actually have some proof to what you say, then please, please post them.

punk ass loser


that applies to all the others as well, you know who you are Wink



Yes, this is the way that legitimate businessmen who run genuine investment funds WHICH DEFINITELY AREN'T PONZIS HONEST GUV talk to people lol
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