The Treadmill of Atheism

[BADecker]

If God answers prayers how can He know everything about the future if he can make changes today which will ergo effect the future...?

Part of enjoying things that you know is to hide a little from yourself, just so that you can review it again by living it over.

In the case of God, He is coming from the direction of knowing everything. We barely have an understanding of knowing a little... compared with what is there to know. It is difficult for us to understand His point of view.

[luckypyrate]

If God answers prayers how can He know everything about the future if he can make changes today which will ergo effect the future...?

Part of enjoying things that you know is to hide a little from yourself, just so that you can review it again by living it over.

In the case of God, He is coming from the direction of knowing everything. We barely have an understanding of knowing a little... compared with what is there to know. It is difficult for us to understand His point of view.

And yet here we are expounding on the religion revolving around his Points of view...

 

[Vod]

In the case of God, He is coming from the direction of knowing everything. We barely have an understanding of knowing a little... compared with what is there to know. It is difficult for us to understand His point of view.

So he KNEW that the world would be overrun by evil and he would have to drown them all in a great flood?

What a perverted asshole your god is.

 

[Vod]

In the case of God, He is coming from the direction of knowing everything.

So he KNEW that adam would be lonely and he would have to make him a female?

Why didn't he create eve in the first place?  Why create a male/female of every creature except human?

There are so many examples of god not knowing things...

[luckypyrate]

In the case of God, He is coming from the direction of knowing everything. We barely have an understanding of knowing a little... compared with what is there to know. It is difficult for us to understand His point of view.

So he KNEW that the world would be overrun by evil and he would have to drown them all in a great flood?

What a perverted asshole your god is.

 

The most dangerous part of this is millions of people sit on their hands while all this bullshit goes on in the world waiting for Jesus to come save the day...

[BADecker]

For the time, and under the circumstances mentioned, rape victim marriage was the best solution.

Exactly.  Morals have developed over time, as I posted, and were not created by the bible, as you posted.

 

It isn't that morals have become better. It is that people were a lot healthier back then, because the earth hadn't had the time to go into so much entropy change yet. Because of this, people were full of energy and health. This allowed them the strength of "playing" with their morals in ways that we barely understand.

[yampi]

Thread name should be changed to "The Treadmill of Trolling on the internet"

[luckypyrate]

I like how you have such a glowing reputation on here too, BADecker...

[Vod]

It isn't that morals have become better. It is that people were a lot healthier back then, because the earth hadn't had the time to go into so much entropy change yet. Because of this, people were full of energy and health. This allowed them the strength of "playing" with their morals in ways that we barely understand.

Now where did you get that nonsense from?

Is that why 1 out of every 2 women died in childbirth?  Is that why everyone was dead by age 30?

Nowhere in the bible does it say people were healthier, so you must have heard this TOO from your priest.  Again, call bullshit when your priest feeds you this shit.  

 

[luckypyrate]

Well don't forget, we need to kill our kids for talking back, and can keep slaves, just not beat them to the point of blindness or mameness...

Hooray morals!

[BADecker]

If God answers prayers how can He know everything about the future if he can make changes today which will ergo effect the future...?

If their god really knew everything, he would know that all the people on earth would eventually become evil and he would have to kill them all.

So basically, the christian god created millions of people just to drown them later in a big flood.

Either their god CANNOT tell the future, or he kills for fun.  Which one is it?

 

Well, actually, at the time before the Great Flood of Noah's day, the people were so far advanced beyond us (because of the natural health of a new earth), that they could invent all kinds of ways to be immoral that we haven't even thought about developing, yet. That's why God destroyed all but the 8 people on the ark of Noah. We are all descendants of Adam. But we are all descendants of Noah and his wife, too.

[Vod]

Well, actually, at the time before the Great Flood of Noah's day, the people were so far advanced beyond us (because of the natural health of a new earth), that they could invent all kinds of ways to be immoral that we haven't even thought about developing, yet. That's why God destroyed all but the 8 people on the ark of Noah. We are all descendants of Adam. But we are all descendants of Noah and his wife, too.

So now you are posting that your god is NOT all knowing?

That conflicts directly with your statement that he WAS all knowing.

You can't keep your stories straight.

 

[luckypyrate]

yeah unfortunately we have this crazy thing called written and dated history proving that the Sumerians were busy inventing glue around the time the Bible says the flood happened...maybe everyone was huffing elmer's and thats why they have a calf on the logo now...lol

[Vod]

(because of the natural health of a new earth)

You consider four billion years to be a new earth?  Through carbon dating, we know exactly how old the earth is.

Oh yeah, I forgot you people don't believe in dinosaurs either.

 

[BADecker]

Actually, waiting like that is about the best way to be. Then when it happens, you will be happily surprised rather than in a fearful panic.

When what happens?  May I remind you, there is zero proof of your jesus or heaven or hell.

There is 100% proof that we will all die though.

 

Just like there is very little history beyond the ancient pottery and ancient writings that anything existed before our time. And there is whole lot of misinterpretation placed on the age of things.

[Vod]

Just like there is very little history beyond the ancient pottery and ancient writings that anything existed before our time. And there is whole lot of misinterpretation placed on the age of things.

Carbon.  Dating.

 

[luckypyrate]

Look I will be the first one to admit there is certainly the possibility that these civilizations existed like Lemuria and Atlantis and all that, but you cannot waste time on such things which we cannot prove or observe through anthropology or archeology.  Everything the church denounces about science are things science has proven.  The church's denouncement is not proof against those proofs.  Even the tales of Lemuria and Atlantis have more historical credence than any one story in the Bible.  

[BADecker]

And this is the exact reason that the Theory of Evolution is no longer scientific theory.

ROFL! Sure, go on, let's have the link that proves Evolution has been thrown out as THE scientific explanation.

Proof or it didn't happen.

There probably isn't any point blank scientific link like this. The reason is that science has proven that evolution is true. Of course, it isn't evolution science that has proven evolution true. Rather, it is political science - a science built around propagandizing - that has proven evolution true. In other words, if they say it enough, people start to believe it. So it's true to the believers. That's the only way evolution has even a little chance of being proven true.

The difference, my friend, is I can take you to the Zoo or the Natural History museum and show you anthropological evidence for what Evolution talks about.

You can't even show me a reference to any one thing mentioned in the Bible.  Not one thing.  From then or now, there is nothing that proves or supports anything claimed in your fairy tales.

Even the "miracles" like Fatama are proven false in the very manner the story is told.  Three kids are given a vision that happens to look exactly like those people are told the vision would look by the church they go to.  The descriptions of the envisioned woman is the stereotype of the graven image of Mary that is plastered all over churches across the world.  

I can tear your religion to its foundation and show you innumerable ways the modern church doesn't even practice Christianity anymore.  

Well, now you are getting a little far out. Consider that in the first chapter in the Bible, God made everything "after its kind." You don't have to go to the zoo. All you have to do is look at life around you. It is "after its kind." It isn't after evolution.

As far as churches practicing Christianity, there are many that don't practice it in a way that god would approve of. But you can see that right in the beginning of the Revelation in the New Testament in the Bible. Way back almost 2.000 years ago, Jesus told John to write this. So why would it be any different today?

[Vod]

Well, now you are getting a little far out. Consider that in the first chapter in the Bible, God made everything "after its kind." You don't have to go to the zoo. All you have to do is look at life around you. It is "after its kind." It isn't after evolution.

We have animals today that have clearly evolved from other animals.  

When your great flood happened, there were 2 dogs on board.  Today, how many hundreds of species of dogs do we have, that HUMANS guided through evolution?

Or will you ignore the fact the poodle and the great dane are different?

 

[BADecker]

Where in the world did you get the info that suggests that He NEEDED to rest? He wasn't resting to replenish his being or something. He rested to enjoy the great creation that He had just made, something like a person enjoys his weekend after a week at the office.

Are you being purposely idiotic??  From the bible of course.

It took him six days to make your world - he couldn't make it in one.  He had to rest afterwards.  He wasn't relaxing/enjoying - he was RESTING.  

Did your priest tell you differently?  

What happens when your priest and the bible differ?  Which one does a fool believe?

If you are being sincere here, I am finally beginning to understand you a little.

When a person is going through an activity, if he stops, he is at rest, even if he doesn't need to replenish his muscles because of the exercise.

God didn't need to create the universe in six days. He took that time because He was savoring it. Notice how He says wording to the effect of, "And God saw that everything He had made was good." Had He wanted to, He could have snapped his spiritual fingers and the whole thing would have come into existence instantly.

You simply don't understand what the almighty strength is like.