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June 09, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
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Well if you agree to the terms and they say your account can be closed at any time then yes it would stand up in court.
Nope. In the ToS you can write everything, even for example that with the click of "I agree" button user gives away his house for free in website's owner favor. Of course it will never be upheld in the court.

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June 09, 2012, 04:26:16 PM
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As it stands i would say stealing someones earned balance is indeed a scam.
Well if you agree to the terms and they say your account can be closed at any time then yes it would stand up in court.
Reminds me very much of Google Adsense... In case anyone here wonders, they do just that: close account without any explanation (and you can't even connect to see how your stats were indeed weird or not).

Still haven't received my payment, btw. But as I put the ads on my lowest traffic site, it didn't get any new click yet. Although, I wonder what can be so hard in programming a cron payment...

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June 09, 2012, 05:18:07 PM
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Great! I'm so glad that progress is being made to resolve this.

This has been going on for so long, I forgot which horse I had in this race.
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June 10, 2012, 07:12:23 PM
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Great! I'm so glad that progress is being made to resolve this.

This has been going on for so long, I forgot which horse I had in this race.

By each on-going page, I think I just keep re-rolling the dice.

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June 15, 2012, 04:00:16 PM
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Same problem! This is my thread about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87567.0

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June 15, 2012, 05:12:50 PM
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Same problem! This is my thread about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87567.0

You should start searching before using a service. Many people have been scammed and there are plenty complaints on this forum.

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June 15, 2012, 08:01:55 PM
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Scammer gonna scam, scammed gonna stay scammed.

Case filed.

PS: For every scammer out there, just ignore when you're being accused and you'll not be considered a scammer Smiley

Exactly, man.

I learned my goddam lesson now Undecided

Never admit to ANYTHING at all and you get scot free.

Valuable fife lesson right there folks.

Works every damn time !
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June 28, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
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Again I'm left wondering how this can just be okay to do...

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June 28, 2012, 03:39:14 PM
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Again I'm left wondering how this can just be okay to do...

because bitcoin.

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June 28, 2012, 06:52:24 PM
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Well, personally I'll replace the ads when I get the occasion but I eventually got paid.

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June 29, 2012, 06:11:28 AM
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Again I'm left wondering how this can just be okay to do...

because bitcoin.
That's my reason for thinking a scam like this isn't okay

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July 05, 2012, 04:06:02 AM
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confirmed: total scam
THIS WEB DOES NOT PAY
i removed the banners of my web already,

the owner does not deceive just the user, keeping his account generating traffic without paying and without any notice, but also deceive the guys who bought his service, as the traffic generated and not paid, will be deduced from the traffic the advertiser paid for!
overall a quite round business! full incoming bitcoins and zero outcoming ones.

"turn your website into a money making monster" ?!? BS.
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July 05, 2012, 11:31:57 AM
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hey averyone, if you ask me http://bitcoinadvertisers.com is the biggest scam site ever!!

we will never get paid out - http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1Jmq5ZmotK5y3KSKRNxx9k67EdiDccmd1G

so everyone out there, do NOT use this site !

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July 05, 2012, 11:54:41 AM
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The fact that Andrew does not refund advertisers for fraud means that it is in his interest to ban partners for fraud (he gets to pocket the whole cost of their clicks).

In essence, he is directly profiting from defrauding his advertisers.

The model is flawed inherently, the interest of the site operator should always be to maintain a fraud-free service, but with BitcoinAdvertisers this is not the case.

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July 05, 2012, 12:15:18 PM
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its so frustrating see your few btc's growing,
you wait your payment and nothing happends..
i mailed the owner and no respone.

i can guess the complexity of his php script

if ( $CTR > 0.1 ){
   donotpay();
}else{
   donotpay();
}

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July 05, 2012, 12:22:43 PM
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The fact that Andrew does not refund advertisers for fraud means that it is in his interest to ban partners for fraud (he gets to pocket the whole cost of their clicks).

In essence, he is directly profiting from defrauding his advertisers.

The model is flawed inherently, the interest of the site operator should always be to maintain a fraud-free service, but with BitcoinAdvertisers this is not the case.

He claims there is fraud but it some cases there is no fraud. The advertisers received the traffic, he received the money. Publishers received nothing.

Simple as that.

Btw. He only pays low CTR rates, the rest he just makes claims to not pay. It ain't cheap to pay publishers with high CTR.

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July 05, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
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he should

1) show clearly the rules to be paid or not, showing witch is the max CTR and so on.
2) if an account is suspected to be fraudulent must be blocked instead of keep it alive generating visits that he will not pay
3) the number of clicks done by the "fraudulent" account must be returned to the advertisers
4) remove the statement that says "i will do whatever i want and google ads got same rules" <--- BS

but this will not happen, because otherwise he would not get so much profit!
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July 05, 2012, 01:56:10 PM
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4) remove the statement that says "i will do whatever i want and google ads got same rules" <--- BS
Where's the BS in this? Looks like he does whatever he wants and Google Ads sure has the same rules...

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July 05, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
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yeah, thats the standard  BS companies put so they can steal when they want

now i will open a bitcoin bank, and instead bitcoins i will give you a paper that says "you got x bitcoins"
what? i can't do it? why not? banks do it! seems a legit argument? [...]

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July 05, 2012, 06:34:52 PM
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Maybe OP can do a poll like this :

Do you think they should be given scammer tags ?

YES
No
I don't know

Or something like that ...
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