Swimmer63
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November 25, 2014, 08:39:14 PM |
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My calculation, even at 0.00125 price (including fee) the ROI through mining dividend is possible before Jan 2016 as long as the difficulty is below 10% adjustment.
January 2016? As far as I´m concerned in this marketplace ROI in more than 6 months is a disaster. Investing in mining is gambling, but it has more chance to make profit this time hopefully, as long as diff is below 10% adjustment every time. With some mining companies talking about a 10x efficiency increase on their next-gen miners and manufacturers rushing to sell cloud hashing faster than they can take down and ship their current gen farms, you'd have to be pretty new to the game to think any contract with a fixed hashrate is a good idea. Is there any contract out there that offers growing hashrate over time ?!?!? If yes please let me know !! If you believe in GAW's then yes. But I would not believe in them. It looks like a real ponzi. I think a good number of these cloud miners are made up entities with imaginary mining farms. Present OP excluded.
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RoadStress
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November 25, 2014, 08:46:07 PM |
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Im taking bets difficulty wont go down even once this year.
Still taking the bet? How about a 0.1 BTC friendly bet? I admit its beginning to look precarious. I assume you're betting mostly on the upcoming difficulty change? If so, ok, Im game for a 0.1 BTC friendly bet that the next difficulty will be higher than the current one. Though I have been more certain about other things :p There are still 7 days until next diff change so there is plenty of time to rise, so I had to try. I will your second bet because 3 weeks is a lot of time with such a thin margin.
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Puppet
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November 25, 2014, 08:51:06 PM |
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There are still 7 days until next diff change so there is plenty of time to rise, so I had to try.
I will your second bet because 3 weeks is a lot of time with such a thin margin.
Not sure I follow. You dont want to bet on the upcoming difficulty change, but you do want to bet on what exactly?
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RoadStress
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November 25, 2014, 09:54:23 PM |
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There are still 7 days until next diff change so there is plenty of time to rise, so I had to try.
I will your second bet because 3 weeks is a lot of time with such a thin margin.
Not sure I follow. You dont want to bet on the upcoming difficulty change, but you do want to bet on what exactly? I don't think I understand. I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0. I thought you wanted to bet on the next diff after the one that is in 7 days.
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Puppet
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November 25, 2014, 09:57:01 PM |
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I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0.
ok, so the bet I proposed. You're on, 0.1 BTC, I say it will be above 0. (And if its precisely zero, I suggest we both donate to a charity :p) Time to turn on my 100PH machine!
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RoadStress
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November 25, 2014, 11:46:20 PM |
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I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0.
ok, so the bet I proposed. You're on, 0.1 BTC, I say it will be above 0. (And if its precisely zero, I suggest we both donate to a charity :p) Time to turn on my 100PH machine! Ok.
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DARKANGEL6415
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November 26, 2014, 04:15:54 AM |
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I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0.
ok, so the bet I proposed. You're on, 0.1 BTC, I say it will be above 0. (And if its precisely zero, I suggest we both donate to a charity :p) Time to turn on my 100PH machine! Ok. So i am lost on this are you all really going to wonder / bet on the difficulty for btc going up or down in 7 days? If this is the case i want in on some of that action i say will go down and not raise.
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corygto
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November 26, 2014, 04:19:07 AM |
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I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0.
ok, so the bet I proposed. You're on, 0.1 BTC, I say it will be above 0. (And if its precisely zero, I suggest we both donate to a charity :p) Time to turn on my 100PH machine! Ok. So i am lost on this are you all really going to wonder / bet on the difficulty for btc going up or down in 7 days? If this is the case i want in on some of that action i say will go down and not raise. If you guys want to make an official bet, I can provide escrow. I frequent this site daily so once the results come in I can provide a quick payout to the winner/winners
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gogxmagog
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November 26, 2014, 04:29:34 AM |
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I don't know why you guys are complaining, every day I look at my total divs, then add that to current value of shares and I have profit. I'm aware this won't last, but at this rate, even when the shares start to tank I will be ahead. Whatever future predictions you want to make, be my guest. I'm just sitting here watching my btc increase with one finger hovering above the "sell" button, and until then...h8rz gon h8
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Swimmer63
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November 26, 2014, 05:03:44 AM |
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It's a .10 btc bet. I hardly think escrow is in the plan.
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Swimmer63
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November 26, 2014, 05:04:49 AM |
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I don't know why you guys are complaining, every day I look at my total divs, then add that to current value of shares and I have profit. I'm aware this won't last, but at this rate, even when the shares start to tank I will be ahead. Whatever future predictions you want to make, be my guest. I'm just sitting here watching my btc increase with one finger hovering above the "sell" button, and until then...h8rz gon h8
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corygto
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November 26, 2014, 05:41:59 AM |
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It's a .10 btc bet. I hardly think escrow is in the plan.
Well if 3 people jump in it's more than .10 btc. It was just a suggestion
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stompysteve
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November 26, 2014, 07:03:04 AM |
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I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0.
ok, so the bet I proposed. You're on, 0.1 BTC, I say it will be above 0. (And if its precisely zero, I suggest we both donate to a charity :p) Time to turn on my 100PH machine! Lol Not sure if trolling or trolling.....
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amhash
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November 26, 2014, 09:18:47 AM |
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No matter what's bet you are going to do, the slower of difficulty climbing up, the higher ROI you will get from AMHash. So, bet on higher difficulty will be better, when you lose bet ,you can get more profits from you investment in AMHash .
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AMHashASICMINER ● ROCKMINER ● Purchase from: AMHash (20Th/s min) ● Havelock (1Gh/s min) Cloud-mining contracts: 0.0012 BTC per Gh ● Maintenance fee: $0.001551 per Gh per day ● Upto 6% Christmas Bonus
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November 26, 2014, 09:31:52 AM |
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No matter what's bet you are going to do, the slower of difficulty climbing up, the higher ROI you will get from AMHash. So, bet on higher difficulty will be better, when you lose bet ,you can get more profits from you investment in AMHash . Thats assuming one is invested in amhash. Im not Besides, this bet is just for fun. I may very well lose it, but its not like that would bankrupt me and I doubt roadstress sees it as a hedge for his shares. The bet itself also has nothing directly to do with amhash. Winning it or losing it doesnt say anything about its long term profitability. For the record: I dont believe amhash will prove profitable in the long run, as its a bet on <4% growth per difficulty adjustment, but I also have no problem admitting I dont know a better offer on the (cloud mining) market right now.
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November 26, 2014, 09:36:34 AM Last edit: November 26, 2014, 10:20:34 AM by Puppet |
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I'm just sitting here watching my btc increase with one finger hovering above the "sell" button,
Problem is that you're not alone doing just that. If you have more than a token amount of shares and/or you're not among the first to hit the sell button, havelock market depth doesnt look very promising. If you dont believe in the long term profitability of this share, its extremely risky to be holding IMO. In particular if you factor in the 4+ PH AMhash hasnt sold yet.
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Mabsark
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November 26, 2014, 10:19:44 AM |
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In particular if you factor in the 4+ PH AMhash hasnt sold yet.
I wouldn't worry about that. AMHash seems to be as incompetent at sales as AM is at support.
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galdur
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November 26, 2014, 12:08:06 PM |
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So, how safe is the garbage bin that this trades in ?
This Havelock thing. It´s in Panama, right ?
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November 26, 2014, 12:49:32 PM |
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There's still 380 TH of AMHash at 0.0012 BTC on Hashie -Sahra
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DARKANGEL6415
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November 26, 2014, 04:03:54 PM |
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No matter what's bet you are going to do, the slower of difficulty climbing up, the higher ROI you will get from AMHash. So, bet on higher difficulty will be better, when you lose bet ,you can get more profits from you investment in AMHash . Thats assuming one is invested in amhash. Im not Besides, this bet is just for fun. I may very well lose it, but its not like that would bankrupt me and I doubt roadstress sees it as a hedge for his shares. The bet itself also has nothing directly to do with amhash. Winning it or losing it doesnt say anything about its long term profitability. For the record: I dont believe amhash will prove profitable in the long run, as its a bet on <4% growth per difficulty adjustment, but I also have no problem admitting I dont know a better offer on the (cloud mining) market right now. i will make it formal i will accept bet saying dificulty in 6 days will NOT go up. I say will be below the 0% might even drop even if it is only like 0.01% it is still a drop. I dont think we need no escrow for a 0.1 BTC bet lol i think we both can be honest and open in front of everyone here. Let me know if you officially accept this bet since i know you betting for increase of difficulty. To avoid any confussion or loopholes looser has to pay winner within 3 days of difficulty change.
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