RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?

[itod]

I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.

9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:

1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.

Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.

Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.

So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.

I don't feel sympathy for your troubles at all. It's unbelievable that you were so naive that you actually thought Ryan's "coin gain" percentages are true and not fraud. Nobody could be so naive not to be suspicious those percentages are simple Rayn's fraud. Do you really want us to believe you thought Ryan earns those percentages and have to sell some 0.5 BTC "membership fee"? It's also obvious why there are no exit points in those "advises" he sells, only entry points. Reason is simple: Your entry points are his exit points, when he advises you to buy he actually sells to you for higher price coins he bought a week earlier while they were cheap. He can not tell you exit points because there are no exit points for you, only for him. Anyone who doesn't see these obvious facts deserves to be scammed by Ryan week by week.

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[FunnyHat43]

http://pumperspicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/picks22.png

I feel sorry for the poor souls who bought crave at 3000 Sats and made 4000% profit in a week

http://31.media.tumblr.com/2b4c7d147f5a7bfa95bf2001e7242f83/tumblr_n43ayrRsy61s9ab4to1_400.gif

 

[escrow.dude]

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but they do not care for us

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

i will keep to say i will never remove this one

no more pump and dump here

[BTCfaucetTIME]

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but they do not care for us

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

i will keep to say i will never remove this one

no more pump and dump here

no illegal its not actually in this place, but it is dirty and sly and maybe even every pump and dump should be banish from here this place
even look one of their member come here to continue brag how much money they are make infront of us
they do not want to trade only they will do their manipulations and then laugh at everyone and say how easy it is for them
maybe we here who hate these people we make own group for ourself and we be own boss for ourself
five of us we come together and we put 1 bitcoin for each of us so that we now have 5 btc and we are more powerful like this
or maybe we put more, i do not know it why these people will no go away from here and leave us to do normal trading
they want easy life, they do not want to work it like hard working good heart people, so all they will do is manipulate

[Spoetnik]

Dumb topic..
Read the forum rules kid 

Scamming is NOT against the rules .

Don't like it then leave because they won't.
I have seen this brought up endlessly same demands and outrage.. read the rules and stickied topics
..then use your brain.

and yeah of course I hate the scammers so I am not defending them.. I hope karma bites them all in the ass hard !

[vectorxy208]

I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.

9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:

1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.

Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.

Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.

So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.

I don't feel sympathy for your troubles at all. It's unbelievable that you were so naive that you actually thought Ryan's "coin gain" percentages are true and not fraud. Nobody could be so naive not to be suspicious those percentages are simple Rayn's fraud. Do you really want us to believe you thought Ryan earns those percentages and have to sell some 0.5 BTC "membership fee"? It's also obvious why there are no exit points in those "advises" he sells, only entry points. Reason is simple: Your entry points are his exit points, when he advises you to buy he actually sells to you for higher price coins he bought a week earlier while they were cheap. He can not tell you exit points because there are no exit points for you, only for him. Anyone who doesn't see these obvious facts deserves to be scammed by Ryan week by week.

None requested! If you think sympathy was the reason for my post you're mistaken. I knew it was a gamble when I went into it. I was just curious and thought the odds of getting something in return *might* be better than at a roulette table. But I was wrong apparently. I don't beat myself up over it at all, but of course I'd rather inform other people about my experience than keep quiet about it.

I'd also like to state I think Ryan's pretty darn convincing in what he does for many reason. I read through most of his website before joining and it contains a lot of seemingly good advice. He's definitely working hard on this "art". I think it's nice to have topics like this where people can be informed of the different tactics used.

[escrow.dude]

I feel sorry for the poor souls who bought crave at 3000 Sats and made 4000% profit in a week



 

DO NOT YOU DARE COME TO HERE TO BOAST ON US

we have said it we do not care about it even if you so much money make it

how will you dare to come to here and tell us about this your dirty money

even if they will make me to walk in Jaipur naked that one i will do before i do shameful thing and be with you secret society club that want to control

this one does not please us here we do not want to put the kind morals of ours on the floor to be with devil

NO MORE PUMP IT AND THEN DUMP! THIS ONE IS ILLEGAL

no i do not care what will happen to me here in this place

i am good moral man and i will do honesty for all of us here to see and maybe they say i am good guy for doing it

i do not need to be with gang to trade this one will not give me power

slowly i will do even five dollar to me is better than five millions even if i will do slow one dollar each two days

this one is better than boasting dirty money for us to look and be angry

[EnzoBlaque]

DO NOT YOU DARE COME TO HERE TO BOAST ON US

we have said it we do not care about it even if you so much money make it

how will you dare to come to here and tell us about this your dirty money

even if they will make me to walk in Jaipur naked that one i will do before i do shameful thing and be with you secret society club that want to control

this one does not please us here we do not want to put the kind morals of ours on the floor to be with devil

NO MORE PUMP IT AND THEN DUMP! THIS ONE IS ILLEGAL

no i do not care what will happen to me here in this place

i am good moral man and i will do honesty for all of us here to see and maybe they say i am good guy for doing it

i do not need to be with gang to trade this one will not give me power

slowly i will do even five dollar to me is better than five millions even if i will do slow one dollar each two days

this one is better than boasting dirty money for us to look and be angry

https://i.imgur.com/cQQkxGt.gif

[shanem]

Pump and dump is not illegal.
It is happening everyone even in the stock market.
We need to find good coins to buy instead of buying into hype to avoid losing btc.

[hellscabane]

I like how this has basically turned into a somewhat of a shilling thread.

Getting to the heart of the question, RyanPumper is not banned because his namesake is literally what he does in real life . And well, that's gotta count for something right?

[SecretsOfCrypto]

Its a pump group just like the hundreds of other pump groups. Don't be fooled or bothered by it.

[nemo]

i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here

[gravitate]

So what way do they scam?

[Piston Honda]

Its a pump group just like the hundreds of other pump groups. Don't be fooled or bothered by it.

this right here, very correct