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November 08, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
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is it illegal to run "bit coin only" gambling sites like as primedice in the us?
If not how do sites like primedice still exist?
Dose the us gov see BTC as money?
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November 08, 2014, 03:34:24 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.
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November 08, 2014, 03:48:04 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.

That's the wise thing to do if you want to avoid trouble. US regulators can be quite aggressive to enforce their lobby induced laws
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November 08, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
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so if i would live in the us but host the site somewhere else than the us and maybe block us ip's
nothing could happen??
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November 08, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
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Here is some info about US regulation.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112811/us-regulators-one-two-punch-sec-probes-crowdsales-fincen-takes-aim-at-exchanges
http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/rp/rulings/pdf/FIN-2014-R011.pdf
http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/06/Bitcoin.pdf

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November 08, 2014, 04:47:13 PM
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Yes it is illegal.

Yes they will ram your butthole.
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November 08, 2014, 06:06:49 PM
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Poker was announced as a skilled game in 2011,http://www.playingpokerusa.com/news.html, and I belive bitcoins are NOT a legal currency which would make bitcoin poker sites not a gambling site??
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November 08, 2014, 07:34:48 PM
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Poker was announced as a skilled game in 2011,http://www.playingpokerusa.com/news.html, and I belive bitcoins are NOT a legal currency which would make bitcoin poker sites not a gambling site??

Casino chips are also NOT a legal currency. You get the picture?
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November 08, 2014, 07:41:12 PM
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I get the picture, but couple that with the fact that poker is a skill game since 2011 you would have a decent  argument in front of the judge. Not to mention these sites are not hosted in USA. And if so how will you catch them with bitcoins? There is NO merchant account set up or BANKS which is the illegal factor. Does this help?
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November 08, 2014, 07:49:30 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.

How do u know ? Then where is PD located at ?
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November 08, 2014, 08:01:40 PM
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Is is currently not illegal , and is a grey area. Satoshi Dice shutdown to US customers, to avoid any risks in future.

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November 08, 2014, 08:04:58 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.

How do u know ? Then where is PD located at ?

I recall Stunna saying that it is located in Australia.
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November 08, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
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PD?

Whats that? Have you had a chance to look at sealswclubs? They are out daily and are not hiding. What is illegal about poker which was sought as a skilled game in 2011 by a FEDRAL JUDGE, and coins that the FEDS DONT want as a REAL currency? Also keep in mind none of these site are hosted in the USA? I would assume not anyway.
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November 08, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
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Run it on servers in Belize etc., it should be safe then.
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November 08, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.

^ If you try going to the PrimeDice site with a US IP address, it doesn't let you access the website. It's a gray area, and overall, just easier to avoid US IP addresses for such gambling sites.
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November 08, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
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BESIDE the IP address which can be shown anywhere, how would you track the money ? You can't with coins.
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November 08, 2014, 08:54:53 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.

How do u know ? Then where is PD located at ?

I recall Stunna saying that it is located in Australia.

Can u please point to the source ?
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November 08, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
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http://www.bitcoinfog.com
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November 08, 2014, 09:36:03 PM
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Primedice is not in the US.

It's not clear whether it's legal to run bitcoin only business in US, but a lot of sites are blocking US ip addresses to avoid trouble.

How do u know ? Then where is PD located at ?

I recall Stunna saying that it is located in Australia.

I'm 99% sure it is not located in Australia.

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November 08, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
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is it illegal to run "bit coin only" gambling sites like as primedice in the us?
If not how do sites like primedice still exist?
Dose the us gov see BTC as money?


I reckon technically no but anything is illegal if they decide it is 1 day and let you know after saying you are enabling money laundering or something.
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