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June 07, 2012, 04:23:24 AM
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I just visited bitcoin bitcoincard.org, and i saw the new pages, go check it out for your self, and please everyone sign up and put your self on the map!

http://bitcoincard.org/earth/

it only takes 2 mins

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June 07, 2012, 04:29:13 AM
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If it's only what, $50 for a node dongle? I'll buy some.

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June 07, 2012, 04:36:03 AM
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I hope they market this thing well so it appeals to more then just bitcoiners

its like CB but text and coin, could be a hit!

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June 07, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
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No. Bitcoincard is fascinating for it's flexible board and battery-less functionality for sure, but the requirement for the entire world to build infrastructure around it instead of using what's already there is not only lazy, it's downright unimaginative and asinine.

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June 07, 2012, 10:58:53 AM
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If it's only what, $50 for a node dongle? I'll buy some.

Node dongles should cost around $10 to make or less each.  Since the purchaser is paying to build infrastructure and there really is none currently, the dongles should be as close to cost as possible.  Maybe later when they are built out should they attempt to turn the dongle into a profit center.

They should be under $20.

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June 07, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
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An outdoor-mountable unit that connects to your local wifi network instead of a USB connection might be nice.  Bonus points if it's solar powered with rechargeable battery.

Otherwise if it's just connected via USB to a computer inside a house/building, I can't imagine range would be very useful.
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June 07, 2012, 11:29:29 AM
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but the requirement for the entire world to build infrastructure around it instead of using what's already there is not only lazy, it's downright unimaginative and asinine.
I guess that's what many would say about Bitcoin vs. the traditional banking system. I'm sure Satoshi was just too lazy to open up a Paypal account Wink
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June 07, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
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but the requirement for the entire world to build infrastructure around it instead of using what's already there is not only lazy, it's downright unimaginative and asinine.
I guess that's what many would say about Bitcoin vs. the traditional banking system. I'm sure Satoshi was just too lazy to open up a Paypal account Wink
Bitcoin is inherently different from the traditional banking system. A non-standard radio frequency is simply non-standard and bothersome. All I can say to them is
"good luck with that".

It's important that you know that in their hype-laden video that proclaim that bitcoincard will never need to rely on any kind of infrastructure, but then they ask you to buy a device to act as a repeater for their....infrastructure.  Roll Eyes

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June 07, 2012, 11:44:50 AM
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I just visited bitcoin bitcoincard.org, and i saw the new pages, go check it out for your self, and please everyone sign up and put your self on the map!

http://bitcoincard.org/earth/

it only takes 2 mins

Why would I do that?

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June 07, 2012, 11:55:47 AM
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I guess that's what many would say about Bitcoin vs. the traditional banking system. I'm sure Satoshi was just too lazy to open up a Paypal account Wink
Bitcoin is inherently different from the traditional banking system.
I'd argue that a decentralized mesh network with cheap solar power nodes that fit in your wallet is also inherently different from all other traditional networking systems.

A non-standard radio frequency is simply non-standard and bothersome. All I can say to them is "good luck with that".
You'd probably have a very hard time building that kind of network on top of Bluetooth/WiFi/3G - those were designed for completely different purposes.

It's important that you know that in their hype-laden video that proclaim that bitcoincard will never need to rely on any kind of infrastructure, but then they ask you to buy a device to act as a repeater for their....infrastructure.  Roll Eyes
I think they are needed not so much for repeating but to act as the gateways to the Internet and you probably can't do much without gateways, no matter which kind of devices you use.

The publicly available information is probably too sparse to judge them just yet. From what I can tell it definitely looks interesting and in a few days we'll know more. Calling them asinine is just as premature as pre-ordering a thousand cards IMHO.
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June 07, 2012, 12:03:27 PM
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I'd argue that a decentralized mesh network with cheap solar power nodes that fit in your wallet is also inherently different from all other traditional networking systems.
True that. Unfortunately there are way too many inconsistencies in their marketing video itself and reality so we can only go on what they say.

  • No recharge required as it works on solar -- so how well does this device function at night? In Alaska during the 30 day long nights?
  • Doesn't rely on supporting infrastructure -- those are their words buddy, not mine. Talk to them about why they claim that. All I know is, ad-hoc doesn't work for the blockchain without a gateway, and people don't buy gateways without those gateways being useful for the owner as well, and a non-standard frequency used only for that device is not enough incentive for most people. Again, "Good luck with that".


The publicly available information is probably too sparse to judge them just yet. From what I can tell it definitely looks interesting and in a few days we'll know more. Calling them asinine is just as premature as pre-ordering a thousand cards IMHO.

True that. Let's wait to see what Charlie and Erik dig up.

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June 07, 2012, 12:10:14 PM
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No.

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June 07, 2012, 12:43:36 PM
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I just visited bitcoin bitcoincard.org, and i saw the new pages, go check it out for your self, and please everyone sign up and put your self on the map!

http://bitcoincard.org/earth/

it only takes 2 mins

Why would I do that?

To increase the value of your Bitcoins. Its that simple.

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June 07, 2012, 12:53:54 PM
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From the page: http://bitcoincard.org/movement.php

"If Bitcoin succeeds, it is likely that PayPal and Western Union would be removed from the marketplace. The Federal Reserve (and every central bank) would be made redundant. "Disruptive technology" is thus an understatement. "

Remove this, it will probably not happen in 30-40 years anyway if ever. Its just unnecessary to create enemies, and people are afraid of using technology that threatens the society the are used to and believe, works.






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June 07, 2012, 12:56:08 PM
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Agree. Some people will get interested after reading the article, but majority will be scared to use BTC after reading it.
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June 08, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
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Shouldn't this thread be on the "Project Development" board?

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June 08, 2012, 08:28:04 PM
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I just visited bitcoin bitcoincard.org, and i saw the new pages, go check it out for your self, and please everyone sign up and put your self on the map!

http://bitcoincard.org/earth/

it only takes 2 mins


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June 12, 2012, 10:26:51 PM
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What? Why? Who should pay you for running a gateway?
My understanding is that merchants should provide gateway for their customers.

I see no reason why you should be payed for credit card POS terminal or bitcoincard GW.

I was thinking about providing the gateway myself, but area I live in is not worth it...
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June 12, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
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The cost of the transmitters should be pretty inexpensive and it would be good to include one with every card.  A merchant would buy a card  and have a transmitter for their store.  The early buyers will really need a transmitter to do anything at all anyhow.

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June 12, 2012, 11:41:52 PM
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The cost of the transmitters should be pretty inexpensive and it would be good to include one with every card.  A merchant would buy a card  and have a transmitter for their store.  The early buyers will really need a transmitter to do anything at all anyhow.

The cost of rice is inexpensive and you don't see anyone buying it to save the poor and starving.

Convenience is key. No one wants to buy repeaters to help nerds except other nerds..

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