Cryptolator silver 1BTC graded MS-69 (auction ends Nov. 23 @ 5:00PM EST)

[master-P]

Status updated on ANACS website to "Shipping" so I will have grades tomorrow before they leave to me. I can not wait to see some MS-67/68's and score a free Silver!

So.. what are the results?

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[Blazed]

Status updated on ANACS website to "Shipping" so I will have grades tomorrow before they leave to me. I can not wait to see some MS-67/68's and score a free Silver!

So.. what are the results?

They are teasing us    Should be posted tomorrow right before they ship I hope...

[Blazed]

Grades are in, and expected they got lower. I sent in those 2 x Silvers, 2 x Copper, and 1 Goldline



I am guessing the coppers are the 2 66's.

[Blazed]

Damn no edits.. the Silvers are the 1BTC so 66 and a 67 

[monkeynuts]

Depends on who grades them...ICG hands out higher grades than ANACS would for these. So a MS-69 ICG is probably an MS-67 ANACS wise. Also ANACS is a more respected company #3 of the big four. ICG being #4, but the top 2 will not grade physical cryptos 

Blazed I bow down to your wisdom. You were pretty much spot on.

Really good to have a direct comparison like this though. Thanks everyone for doing this, and for doing it so openly. Really helps us all.

[LitcoinCollector]

Thanks for clearing this up!

[Blazed]

Well I am working with ANACS right now on a guide for grading physical crypto coins. I will have a "how to" guide with a template form supplied by them and some other info soon.

[Pistachio]

Depends on who grades them...ICG hands out higher grades than ANACS would for these. So a MS-69 ICG is probably an MS-67 ANACS wise. Also ANACS is a more respected company #3 of the big four. ICG being #4, but the top 2 will not grade physical cryptos 

Blazed I bow down to your wisdom. You were pretty much spot on.

Really good to have a direct comparison like this though. Thanks everyone for doing this, and for doing it so openly. Really helps us all.

It's not a complete lose on my side either. Keep in mind these were originally MS68 from ICG. So, the MS67 is still with in +/-1 grade. So, I still get one of them back  .

I do concede that ICG looks to be one to two grades higher than ANACS on these coins.

[Pistachio]

Depends on who grades them...ICG hands out higher grades than ANACS would for these. So a MS-69 ICG is probably an MS-67 ANACS wise. Also ANACS is a more respected company #3 of the big four. ICG being #4, but the top 2 will not grade physical cryptos 

Blazed I bow down to your wisdom. You were pretty much spot on.

Really good to have a direct comparison like this though. Thanks everyone for doing this, and for doing it so openly. Really helps us all.

It's not a complete lose on my side either. Keep in mind these were originally MS68 from ICG. The MS67 is still with in +/-1 grade. So, I still get one of them back  .

I do concede that ICG looks to be one to two grades higher than ANACS on these coins.

[Pistachio]

It's time to update this comparison between ICG and ANACS. I just got back 8 Cryptolator silver 1btc coins as crossovers from ICG to ANACS. They ALL received the same grade within one grade (all MS68 or MS69).

Here is a list of the coins that received the same exact grade from ANACS and ICG. <<5 total>>
#30 MS69 identical 4952876 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952876
#56 MS69 identical 4952877 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952877
#67 MS68 identical 4952878 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952878
#57 MS69 identical 4952881 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952881
#53 MS69 identical 4952883 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952883

Here is a list of the coins that received one grade lower from ANACS: <<3 total>>
#65 MS68 drop down 1 – 4952879 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952879
#54 MS68 drop down 1 – 4952880 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952880
#58 MS68 drop down 1 – 4952882 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952882

I hope this will put an end to this nonsense that ICG is not as good as ANACS.

Here is one more crossover I had graded and it happened to also received the exact same grade from both ICG and ANACS.

Lealana Silver/Gold 1btc MS68 identical 4952886 http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=4952886

[minerjones]

Do you break out the coin from the grading capsule to send it to the other company??
or do they accept pre-slabbed??

And nice to see some consistency in grading between the 2 companies!!

[Pistachio]

Do you break out the coin from the grading capsule to send it to the other company??
or do they accept pre-slabbed??

And nice to see some consistency in grading between the 2 companies!!

I left them in their slabs. I read on their site that they cover up the previous grade when grading crossovers, so the grader does not know the old grade. I see no reason to believe they would lie. I sent in an ANACS slabbed Casascius coin and it was regraded two points higher, so I think they really do cover up the old grades when grading them. It would have been easier for them to just say it's the right grade and send it back. I would have had to pay the same anyway.

[Pistachio]

Wait ... I did crack open one graded Cryptolator. It was that **** ANACS slabbed Cryptolator that I got back from Blazedout419. I sent it in naked and it received the exact same grade as before, MS66  . So, ANACS does seem to maintain some consistency.