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September 20, 2012, 04:27:40 AM |
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Raoul Duke
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September 20, 2012, 09:39:43 AM |
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They also admitted on their whitelisting request to have another forum account.
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Sethenes
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September 20, 2012, 10:53:14 AM |
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TORwallet : "You probably want to know why you should trust us. Our answer is don't. Only deposit as many coins as you are willing to lose while we build trust in the community."
Glad I only put a very small amount in there on Monday evening. Still can't get them out. So, how long before they're officially a scammer?
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kokojie
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September 20, 2012, 01:07:48 PM |
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TORwallet : "You probably want to know why you should trust us. Our answer is don't. Only deposit as many coins as you are willing to lose while we build trust in the community."
Glad I only put a very small amount in there on Monday evening. Still can't get them out. So, how long before they're officially a scammer?
The problem is they are not putting up verified identity information online, this is always a sign of scammer. Doesn't matter how "trusted" their forum id becomes, pirateat40 was a highly reputable BTC trader, highly trusted forum account with thousands of posts, he's more reputable than 99% of users on this forum. This is until he decided to scam people millions of dollars. He never provided his true identity though, a sign of scammer.
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btc: 15sFnThw58hiGHYXyUAasgfauifTEB1ZF6
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mb300sd
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Drunk Posts
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September 20, 2012, 04:40:36 PM |
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I have 2 deposits of approx 10BTC from a couple days ago, and neither has moved... They normally get moved to a large wallet within a day or so, and it seemed like part of the normal mixing process, it possible the owner might have abandoned the site or died or something.
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marcus_of_augustus
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Eadem mutata resurgo
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September 21, 2012, 02:01:33 AM |
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I have 2 deposits of approx 10BTC from a couple days ago, and neither has moved... They normally get moved to a large wallet within a day or so, and it seemed like part of the normal mixing process, it possible the owner might have abandoned the site or died or something.
Presidential order drone strike?
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gildedtophat
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September 21, 2012, 02:20:56 AM |
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Would be nice to get my 1.5 BTC back, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Dabs
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The Concierge of Crypto
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September 22, 2012, 04:06:12 AM |
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For example, I put some bitcoins in Mt. Gox. I traded them for USD. Then I traded them back for bitcoins after a day. I lost in the spread and the difference, but I'm still close to the original bitcoins. Then I withdraw the bitcoins back to my own wallet on my computer.
Is that mixed enough? I mean, for less than 200 bitcoins per day its something you could use and you'd be essentially anonymous even to Mt. Gox because you don't use a verified account, although you can't use TOR on it.
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davout
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September 22, 2012, 07:40:47 AM |
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For example, I put some bitcoins in Mt. Gox. I traded them for USD. Then I traded them back for bitcoins after a day. I lost in the spread and the difference, but I'm still close to the original bitcoins. Then I withdraw the bitcoins back to my own wallet on my computer.
You don't understand hox shared wallets like mtgox work. You don't even need to trade your coins for them to get mixed.
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Tweaked
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September 23, 2012, 01:42:38 PM |
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Finally I can post in this section!! I thought everyone should know that I have setup a site dedicated to keeping everyone updated with the current status of TORWallet http://torwalletstatus.com/Basically the back-end is just a bash script running a constant post to https://torwallet.com and http://nci2szjrwjqw2zbi.onion. Attempting to send coins out from a wallet. The status site will be updated if there is any change that affects the sending of bitcoins out of TORWallet. while : do curl --insecure -A "Give Me My Coins Back" -d "addr=1SexvYkJNPmDhkaxn5QDzfMEPtgu9p6cr&amt=1&pass=PASSWORD" "https://torwallet.net/send/c7cc9c381827e71e64c601716041d121c02ef556dfcf039fb6f90783a911ddb8 " sleep 10 done https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112201.0
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Mr. Coinman
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September 23, 2012, 08:09:59 PM |
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Finally I can post in this section!! I thought everyone should know that I have setup a site dedicated to keeping everyone updated with the current status of TORWallet http://torwalletstatus.com/Basically the back-end is just a bash script running a constant post to https://torwallet.com and http://nci2szjrwjqw2zbi.onion. Attempting to send coins out from a wallet. The status site will be updated if there is any change that affects the sending of bitcoins out of TORWallet. while : do curl --insecure -A "Give Me My Coins Back" -d "addr=1SexvYkJNPmDhkaxn5QDzfMEPtgu9p6cr&amt=1&pass=PASSWORD" "https://torwallet.net/send/c7cc9c381827e71e64c601716041d121c02ef556dfcf039fb6f90783a911ddb8 " sleep 10 done https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112201.0Unfortunately my entire wallet has been deleted so these scripts are no use for me, but thank you for creating it for others!
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SnafuKazoo
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September 23, 2012, 09:46:40 PM |
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We are experienced bitcoiners and developers starting up a new service. 2 members of our team are senior members here with >500 posts. Be nice to get out of here to post a proper announcement and provide any support needed.
It would be nice if TORwallet popped in here to provide the support he/she promised back in June. OP will surely deliver. Let's just wait. /s
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Tweaked
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September 23, 2012, 11:11:35 PM |
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I'm seeing a pattern in the users that have emailed the link to TORWallet seem to be the ones that have lost there coins straight away.
Mr. Coinman what was your original coin address?
Did you email TORWallet your link?
Thanks
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Mr. Coinman
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September 24, 2012, 01:17:06 AM |
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Oddly enough, I didn't include my wallet link in my address in my email. I contacted them just a few minutes after I first encountered the issue, so I'm sure they were able to pinpoint which wallet was mine. My wallet address was 1XpiVTC5MR2LMwk5Xrh3waC1Ynmo4jAqa.
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timmah
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September 24, 2012, 03:01:24 AM |
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I'm re-posting here because I've been white-listed but I've been screwed out of 200+ coins too. I emailed them shortly after it happened and no reply. They took over 200 coins from me with an error message just saying "database error!" it's been over 2 weeks. http://blockchain.info/address/182NaP96cptwjxNgpzxwYJ9uLxxZMhMFXvthey moved my coins already but no way for me to get access to them and they haven't replied to my emails. I think they are SCAMMERS holding my 200+ coins hostage! Your coins where moved to the address 1NfsP7ABs94KGHfTaC94nJGU84CvjHJhmD after 5 hours, was this done by you or do you think the TORWallet service performed this action? That was them, I have not had access to my coins since I first sent them, even before the transaction had 3 confirmations I received a nice message that says: "Database Error!" on their website. All blank but just that message. I basically sent the coins waited about 5 minutes, clicked on the refresh balance button and BAM got that error. It has the same error in onion or on clearnet. I've emailed them with the link and they have done nothing at all. I would think that this kind of error would be simple for them to fix or at least send my coins to a wallet that I can access, even if their website shows this error it's obvious that the coins are still accessible from their backend. I would post the link even just to prove that it shows "Database Error!" but I don't really see the point in that as there is no other information I can get from doing that and if they do eventually fix it someone could get to it before me and send my coins to themselves . I hope they see this and get themselves together, this is very unprofessional and a 100% scam if they don't get my coins back to me. So much for testing a new service... BTW, I followed the rest of the coins, after they merged into a larger wallet it seams that the pattern continues to merge into wallets with 2 transactions at a time, a small and big transfer. I followed the big transfer which continued the pattern (all being spent of course) until it split by almost half into smaller amounts then all of a sudden to http://blockchain.info/address/1BLitZGYgERqp1NUgnHLBSfEng6QmZaWKe which has 804 transactions, of course this could have just been someone else who used the service as I'm not sure how they actually mix the coins because I don't see where my coins went to a larger wallet with just a balance... I have a feeling they spent my coins or are using other people's money to gamble and they lost the bitcoins causing a shortage.
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SysRun
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September 24, 2012, 03:11:34 AM |
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Where's the scammer tag? last active over a week ago??!!
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Mr. Coinman
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September 24, 2012, 06:14:36 AM |
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Where's the scammer tag? last active over a week ago??!!
I think it's fair that if we don't hear back from them by Friday, they get one. Anyone disagree?
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flower1024
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September 24, 2012, 06:18:31 AM |
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Where's the scammer tag? last active over a week ago??!!
I think it's fair that if we don't hear back from them by Friday, they get one. Anyone disagree? pm maged or open a thread in scam accusations if you want him a scammer tag. otherwise it wont happen
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Tweaked
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September 24, 2012, 06:37:57 AM |
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Where's the scammer tag? last active over a week ago??!!
I think it's fair that if we don't hear back from them by Friday, they get one. Anyone disagree? pm maged or open a thread in scam accusations if you want him a scammer tag. otherwise it wont happen The moderators must be doing a good job... Posted here now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112327.0
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