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Author Topic: [ANN] The Epic 420 Alliance Joint Force - United we stand!  (Read 122791 times)
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December 02, 2014, 03:42:37 AM
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I posted this on PotCoins reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/potcoin/comments/2nzj8h/420_joint_alliance_any_initial_thoughts/

If anyone wants to go upvote it then we can see if a PotCoin devs message on this thread. It would be nice to know they know about this idea.

Good idea. Upvoted on this end. Lets see what they have to say !  Grin

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December 02, 2014, 05:51:24 AM
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I don't really understand what this alliance hopes to achieve. For example if a person from one coin talks to a headshop owner who wants to accept crypto then there is no incentive to get other coins involved. What would be the purpose of 420alliance.info? Rather than splitting effort across multiple coins would it not benefit everyone involved to focus on one? If you are bagholding an ICO coin where the developer left it would make more sense IMO to cut the losses and focus effort on something that everyone can truly work together on. This isn't criticism of the idea, it's just that I don't understand it.

Very good points indeed.

Edit: You posted the answer while I was typing

Perfect. =D

To re-iterate, the mission of the alliance would be the stabilization of the price and overall enhancement of credibility of all of the participating coins. The coins would still exist as separate projects with their own niches, tactics, developers and fans.

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SMoKeMon here

I think deemington has a very important point, its about focusing everyone's energy in one direction. How that is going to happen will take some brainstorming and discussion.

I don't see how trying to stabilize all the coins will help, its simply keeping everything spread thin.

Every coin has its own individual ideas, but in the end they will all be used for the same thing. Buying Cannabis and products related to it.
Why wouldn't you take the best of each coins idea and combine them together. But then the question do you make a new coin or use an existing one and which one would it be.

Adoption is the name of the game and getting as many people using it in the real world will bring stability and an increase in price, if not its just people playing the market to make money.

The main issues PotCoin has faced

1. Getting coins into the hands of regular people easily without having to use an exchange, selling them directly to them.  Requires being registered as a money transmitter with fincen and fintrack = lots of money and legal issues.  our solution was creating localpot to decentralize it, then we built directly into the wallet to make it easier for everyone.

2. Converting the coins back into cash for merchants instantly or with 24-48hrs. Same issues being considered a money transmitter and having to be registered and bonded which costs lots of money and legal issues.   Solution was to make a transparent way of converting PotCoin to Bitcoin then to cash to be deposited into a bank account seamlessly... you would need to use a 3rd party exchange and the merchant would need have and account and be registered which requires them to show id etc so this is another issue.

Before any coin can be used easily these problems need to be solved. I believe we can do it, it's just going to take time and money and effort from a bunch of smart driven people working together.

Making a clear plan so that everyone is on the same page is the first step in any kind of alliance before anyone can agree to join something.




 







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December 02, 2014, 06:06:11 AM
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Hi there, SMoKeMon!

Great to have you around! =)

All very good and valid questions, although I do have slightly different perspectives regarding some of the key points.

I'm in a super hectic situation right now but will respond ASAP.

Thanks for the contribution - let's keep the discussion going!

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December 02, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
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Hi, I was told to check out this thread...

Very interesting project.


If you think Grow and the GrowShop could be of some use in the project. Just send me a pm Wink

I can accept more marijuana related coins in our growshop. However, I dont want my own project to fail. So I have to think about this first Wink
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December 02, 2014, 11:06:13 AM
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Hi!

Hi, I was told to check out this thread...

Excellent! Wink

Very interesting project.

Thank you - and I agree! =D

If you think Grow and the GrowShop could be of some use in the project. Just send me a pm Wink

I'd definitely love to see you aboard! Will PM you in a moment!

I can accept more marijuana related coins in our growshop. However, I dont want my own project to fail. So I have to think about this first Wink

That would be absolutely perfect! I appreciate your attempt to avoid any failures - we have the same goal here. Grin

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December 02, 2014, 05:29:47 PM
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How about starting by burning all the coins with no developers into one new coin.

I am in favor of this. I think burning all the weed related coins that have no active development to one coin is a good idea.
Also cooperation with other coins is important. United we stand, divided we fall.  Grin

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December 02, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2014, 02:46:04 AM by altcoin.center
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How about starting by burning all the coins with no developers into one new coin.

I am in favor of this. I think burning all the weed related coins that have no active development to one coin is a good idea.
Also cooperation with other coins is important. United we stand, divided we fall.  Grin

I too am leaning towards the burning option, with the exception of Sativa - and with the option that if the communities of other abandoned weed coins clearly express their wish for the coin to survive and if a trustworthy developer can be found, then they are of course free to live on.

CannabisDarkcoin has suffered severe damage due to the block chain forking and would need at least a hard fork if not a full restart. I still haven't made any final decisions though and will have to consult with the community first.

Ganjacoin does not seem to have active supporters - when I made the announcement of the takeover in the thread, the only few comments I had were in the lines of "it's a crap coin - let it die". With Ganja the status seems to be "ready to burn".

EDIT: Situation update regarding Ganja: Burning plans canceled for now. There is a community and I will have a meeting with them regarding the future of the coin. As I explain in the Ganja thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874058.msg9723635#msg9723635) I do not consider it a problem that there are several weed coins out there. The scene is big enough to have room for many different styles and coins to bloom. Cool

The Sativa community seems to be well alive and they have expressed their will to support the coin in the future as well. Sativa has no technical troubles and I have personally agreed to make sure a capable developer will be searched and assigned for it.

Are there any other dumped weed coins I should know about?

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P.S. If it comes to the burning option, those who have invested in the to-be-burned coins will of course be granted some means to switch over to other weed coins. No reason for panic. Wink

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December 02, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
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Maybe you could make a new coin, with a swap system for the other ones  Wink So you only have to take care of one coin in the end Wink
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December 02, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
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Maybe you could make a new coin, with a swap system for the other ones  Wink So you only have to take care of one coin in the end Wink

That is indeed one of the options on the table. =)

Note that this only applies to the coins that are going to be burned though; not those participating in the Alliance as sovereign projects.

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December 02, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
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It's really good to see smokemon from PotCoin leave message on here. I believe he's Nick Iverson as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQmUDf1tSU


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December 02, 2014, 08:38:34 PM
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It's really good to see smokemon from PotCoin leave message on here. I believe he's Nick Iverson as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQmUDf1tSU



I agree it is a good sign for sure. Yes, that is Nick Iverson.

It is here folks. DopeCoinGOLD . The #1 Crypto-Weed Coin.
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December 02, 2014, 08:45:55 PM
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It's really good to see smokemon from PotCoin leave message on here. I believe he's Nick Iverson as seen in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQmUDf1tSU

I totally agree!

And I'm sorry for not being able to provide proper full length replies to almost anyone. The hassle is going to continue until the end of this week, when we should have a basic web site with decent communications tools available for the initiative. =)

Thank you everyone for your comments, critique and support! Although many details are still unknown, something very good is about to be born from all this...

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December 02, 2014, 08:52:06 PM
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I am still here watching Smiley dont forget about me lol.

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December 02, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
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I am still here watching Smiley dont forget about me lol.

Certainly won't! =D

There's so much to do right now, but things will calm down and get more organized in just a few days... =)

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December 03, 2014, 03:53:02 AM
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thanks for not just burnin ganja coin

and thanks for the coin trade offer

i just like the name Ganja is very good name

suprising its not big in jamaica its homeland Cool
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December 03, 2014, 02:14:50 PM
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Hi Jyri thanks for the invite. This looks like a great group and with great ideas. Bongger is in!!!!!  Grin
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December 03, 2014, 07:40:37 PM
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I can't believe I didn't know about BGR until today.
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December 03, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
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I can't believe I didn't know about BGR until today.

I had some great laughs when I found out about bgr and reading their threads Grin... Mined myself quitte a few of them tbh  Smiley Just because the dev is such a positive person  Smiley
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December 03, 2014, 09:53:22 PM
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I can't believe I didn't know about BGR until today.

I had some great laughs when I found out about bgr and reading their threads Grin... Mined myself quitte a few of them tbh  Smiley Just because the dev is such a positive person  Smiley

I would mine it if it were x11 or some other GPU algo. I wish there was an x11 weed coin to mine. A cryptonote/cryptonight weed coin would be really cool also.

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December 03, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
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I can't believe I didn't know about BGR until today.

I had some great laughs when I found out about bgr and reading their threads Grin... Mined myself quitte a few of them tbh  Smiley Just because the dev is such a positive person  Smiley

I would mine it if it were x11 or some other GPU algo. I wish there was an x11 weed coin to mine. A cryptonote/cryptonight weed coin would be really cool also.

CannabisCoin is x11 but I wouldn't really call x11 GPU minable
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