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January 31, 2015, 11:15:53 AM

#1101

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 11:01:50 AM

I'm making an exception for you SnarlPill

. The trust isn't a necessary factor.

0.04BTC has been sent to your BIT-X address: https://blockchain.info/tx/9c1d8a591bc6ae702288f21fd5ef7341098d67e8d367396346b1dea4e4a033fa

If you'd like, you can keep the signature and re-enrol at a later date when you can post again.

Thanks marco, you're a good & fair guy.

The Bit-X platform is an interesting one with a variety of cool features, and I will definitely be keeping tabs on it.

I appreciate the offer, and I will keep the Bit-X sig. up for free until I add another signature. I will probably add a personal signature next, but I will definitely reach out to you & the Bit-X campaign first if I join another organized campaign.

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January 31, 2015, 03:15:21 PM
Last edit: January 31, 2015, 07:34:37 PM by findftp

#1102

First of all, I never expect to have all my posts accepted.
There is no rule which says single image posts are not allowed.

Some links you quote contains a single image which I made to point out to other people points in the trend where we currently are.
95% or more of the pictures I post are made by myself.
Some are only ment to be funny (and could be rejected, I kind of understand, but if they are on topic, why?), some are trend forecasts of which I am right once in a while.
It happens a lot in that thread that people give trend forecasts with or without pictures.
Some people even thank me for that.
You cannot call that a low quality post. A correct forecast in a speculation thread is a high quality post, whether it is text or image doesn't matter, the rules don't require text.
I can go and discuss all the quoted links but we will probably end up in an endless discussion so first I want to point another very important issue.

It is a measurable rule in the OP where you say: "Do not post the majority of your posts in a few days, post consistently. Those who post the majority of their posts in a few days then stop posting will be denied payment."

This rule was greatly breached by number 1 poster LOBSTER. He posted 466 posts in 6 days Shocked

He started at 28 December 2014 and made NO posts after 04 January 2015

But he still was paid for almost all, and also got the 0,1 btc extra. Please explain.

You can say anything about my posts, and it's all personal judgement (I don't want to go there yet), but you cannot say this fits into the rules. it just cannot.
Therefor I really feel the rules are NOT followed and are different from person to person.
This is unacceptable. Angry

I don't like to talk about other people but I just want to point out the that rules are taken with a grain of salt. Undecided

This feeling became even stronger when you say two different things just right after each other Undecided

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Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 02:52:22 AM

Thus, all posts made in the wall observer thread will not be counted from now.

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 10:50:46 AM

The wall observer thread will still be allowed however I will be keeping an extremely close eye on all posts made there.

So what is the rule? Allowed or not allowed? Huh

I want to do this according the rules, but the rules are changed during the game and that is unfair to say the least.

I'm still butthurt

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January 31, 2015, 05:05:25 PM
Last edit: January 31, 2015, 08:24:59 PM by findftp

#1103

And the problem even becomes worse.

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January 31, 2015, 06:13:43 PM

#1104

Hello! Just a reminder marco
My name hasn't been updated in GoogleDocs yet

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January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

#1105

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).

It is known that marco has a large number of accounts in his control so it is possible that LOBSTER is under marco's own control (meaning he owns it). This would explain his disregard for the rules with this person.

I would personally go to bit-x at this point seeking payment. This is not marco's signature campaign, it is bit-x's and marco is only acting as escrow, bit-x is ultimately responsible if marco does not pay

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January 31, 2015, 06:33:26 PM
Last edit: January 31, 2015, 08:25:42 PM by findftp

#1106

I ultimately will have to I guess. I just give him the chance to correct the issue first

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January 31, 2015, 07:42:25 PM

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Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).

It is known that marco has a large number of accounts in his control so it is possible that LOBSTER is under marco's own control (meaning he owns it). This would explain his disregard for the rules with this person.

I would personally go to bit-x at this point seeking payment. This is not marco's signature campaign, it is bit-x's and marco is only acting as escrow, bit-x is ultimately responsible if marco does not pay

No, they pay Marco because he is trusted and knows how to use his judgment properly. They don't want, nor have the time to deal with payouts and running the campaign, hence the reason for choosing such a qualified, trustworthy individual.
He may make oversights, if so, I'm sure he'd be happy to correct them. But, I highly doubt complaining and nagging and running to the exchange will work out favorably...and if it did, I'd think Marco would more than likely remove such a person from this campaign in future months.

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January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

#1108

Quote from: tins on January 31, 2015, 07:42:25 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).

It is known that marco has a large number of accounts in his control so it is possible that LOBSTER is under marco's own control (meaning he owns it). This would explain his disregard for the rules with this person.

I would personally go to bit-x at this point seeking payment. This is not marco's signature campaign, it is bit-x's and marco is only acting as escrow, bit-x is ultimately responsible if marco does not pay

No, they pay Marco because he is trusted and knows how to use his judgment properly. They don't want, nor have the time to deal with payouts and running the campaign, hence the reason for choosing such a qualified, trustworthy individual.
He may make oversights, if so, I'm sure he'd be happy to correct them. But, I highly doubt complaining and nagging and running to the exchange will work out favorably...and if it did, I'd think Marco would more than likely remove such a person from this campaign in future months.

You are wrong here. Marco is essentially acting as an employee in managing and paying out for their signature campaign. Going to bit-x would be very similar to to someone escalating a dispute to someone's boss. If he did escalate to bit-x, got payment from them and them marco were to remove him from the signature campaign he could simply do the same thing again, which would likely result in him being reinstated back in the campaign.

Most of marco's trust feedback is either from trading gift cards in small amounts or because he lent people bitcoin without collateral (this is probably not appropriate for him to receive trust). If you were to exclude these ratings, along with the ratings he received from paying out on the signature deal then he would have a trade with caution warning because he sold his signature twice.

If there are a lot of disputes that escalate to bit-x then the more likely scenario is that marco would be removed from his position of managing the signature campaign

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January 31, 2015, 08:17:44 PM

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Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).
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Doesn't matter whether it's a text, single image, gif or whatever. Posts must be constructive. Period.

What is constructive and what isn't is subjective, and in every sig campaign (that pays for post) it's down to campaign manager to decide.

You shouldn't expect the manager to go through every single post of every participant and evaluate on its constructiveness every time someone feels mistreated. That's practically impossible and not gonna happen.

If you don't feel your input is appreciated, switch campaigns. It's that simple.

I personally think that a lot of posts from some of the top 10 posters (don't want to point fingers) are far from being 'constructive', and if those were excluded I would likely made it to the top 10. But I do realise that it's close to impossible to evaluate every post in proper context.

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January 31, 2015, 08:21:56 PM
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#1110

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 31, 2015, 08:17:44 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).
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Doesn't matter whether it's a text, single image, gif or whatever. Posts must be constructive. Period.
What is constructive and what isn't is subjective, and in every sig campaign (that pays for post) it's down to campaign manager to decide.

True, and therefor I made the discussion easier because it would end up in an endless discussion otherwise:

One of the rules:
Those who post the majority of their posts in a few days then stop posting will be denied payment

Number 1 poster LOBSTER did not the majority but all 466 posts in the first 6 days. Period.

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January 31, 2015, 08:41:31 PM

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Quote from: findftp on January 31, 2015, 08:21:56 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 31, 2015, 08:17:44 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).
...

Doesn't matter whether it's a text, single image, gif or whatever. Posts must be constructive. Period.
What is constructive and what isn't is subjective, and in every sig campaign (that pays for post) it's down to campaign manager to decide.

True, and therefor I made the discussion easier because it would end up in an endless discussion otherwise:

One of the rules:
Those who post the majority of their posts in a few days then stop posting will be denied payment

Number 1 poster LOBSTER did 466 in the first 6 days. Period.

So to make it clear. You've accepted that some of your posts were not counted and now your goal is to get Lobster kicked out from campaign or get his earning reduced?

Do I get this right? Is this what you're trying to do?

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January 31, 2015, 09:52:00 PM

#1112

Quote from: findftp on January 31, 2015, 03:15:21 PM

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 02:52:22 AM

Thus, all posts made in the wall observer thread will not be counted from now.

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 10:50:46 AM

The wall observer thread will still be allowed however I will be keeping an extremely close eye on all posts made there.

So what is the rule? Allowed or not allowed? Huh

I want to do this according the rules, but the rules are changed during the game and that is unfair to say the least.

This rule wasn't changed during the term. It just happened that the posts that weren't counted were in that thread mostly.

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January 31, 2015, 09:55:20 PM

#1113

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).

It is known that marco has a large number of accounts in his control so it is possible that LOBSTER is under marco's own control (meaning he owns it). This would explain his disregard for the rules with this person.

I would personally go to bit-x at this point seeking payment. This is not marco's signature campaign, it is bit-x's and marco is only acting as escrow, bit-x is ultimately responsible if marco does not pay

I have never been in nor am I in control of the account 'LOBSTER'.

Single image posts unless somehow relevant and helpful to the discussion are regarded as spam and won't be counted (there weren't any useful ones in this case).

Of course, as can be expected, I have missed some disqualified posts in all members' posting (finftp most likely has many more disqualified as with LOBSTER).

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January 31, 2015, 09:55:41 PM

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Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).

It is known that marco has a large number of accounts in his control so it is possible that LOBSTER is under marco's own control (meaning he owns it). This would explain his disregard for the rules with this person.

I would personally go to bit-x at this point seeking payment. This is not marco's signature campaign, it is bit-x's and marco is only acting as escrow, bit-x is ultimately responsible if marco does not pay

you need to provide proofs what you are saying without proofs its pizza without cheese and even tho having multiple accounts is not aggainest this forums rules and even i dont think so that account is own by marco

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January 31, 2015, 09:59:35 PM

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Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

You are wrong here. Marco is essentially acting as an employee in managing and paying out for their signature campaign. Going to bit-x would be very similar to to someone escalating a dispute to someone's boss. If he did escalate to bit-x, got payment from them and them marco were to remove him from the signature campaign he could simply do the same thing again, which would likely result in him being reinstated back in the campaign.

Wrong, what I say in this campaign goes. If I decide a user will not be allowed in, they will not be allowed in.

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

Most of marco's trust feedback is either from trading gift cards in small amounts or because he lent people bitcoin without collateral (this is probably not appropriate for him to receive trust). If you were to exclude these ratings, along with the ratings he received from paying out on the signature deal then he would have a trade with caution warning because he sold his signature twice.

So you're basically asking to ignore all positive trust, got it.

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

If there are a lot of disputes that escalate to bit-x then the more likely scenario is that marco would be removed from his position of managing the signature campaign

There is one 'dispute' due to one user not being happy with his supposed lower payout and his jealously of another user ("why didn't you do this to that user and only me.." type stuff)

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January 31, 2015, 10:02:12 PM

#1116

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 31, 2015, 08:17:44 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

In reference to the single image posts, there is currently nothing in the rules that state that single image posts are not allowed. Therefore there is no reason why single image posts should be excluded (unless they are in a thread that is otherwise excluded).
...

Doesn't matter whether it's a text, single image, gif or whatever. Posts must be constructive. Period.

What is constructive and what isn't is subjective, and in every sig campaign (that pays for post) it's down to campaign manager to decide.

You shouldn't expect the manager to go through every single post of every participant and evaluate on its constructiveness every time someone feels mistreated. That's practically impossible and not gonna happen.

If you don't feel your input is appreciated, switch campaigns. It's that simple.

I personally think that a lot of posts from some of the top 10 posters (don't want to point fingers) are far from being 'constructive', and if those were excluded I would likely made it to the top 10. But I do realise that it's close to impossible to evaluate every post in proper context.

Thank you for writing this out, I would have said something like this too.

This month I will try my best to make things fair and either be tough on everyone or allow all posts (even spam ones) through (which I don't want).

As I have said, there will be users who get past and may get a few more posts counted while others might be caught and their post count reduced. This should serve as a lesson to not spam.

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January 31, 2015, 10:47:00 PM
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#1117

I have gotten a bot developed and will be using this to check and count user posts.

Check the google doc just for your name.

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January 31, 2015, 10:49:37 PM

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Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 09:59:35 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

You are wrong here. Marco is essentially acting as an employee in managing and paying out for their signature campaign. Going to bit-x would be very similar to to someone escalating a dispute to someone's boss. If he did escalate to bit-x, got payment from them and them marco were to remove him from the signature campaign he could simply do the same thing again, which would likely result in him being reinstated back in the campaign.

Wrong, what I say in this campaign goes. If I decide a user will not be allowed in, they will not be allowed in.

If someone has a valid concern and brings it to the attention of the owner of bit-x then the owner of bit-x is going to have the final say. It is their money right?

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 09:59:35 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

Most of marco's trust feedback is either from trading gift cards in small amounts or because he lent people bitcoin without collateral (this is probably not appropriate for him to receive trust). If you were to exclude these ratings, along with the ratings he received from paying out on the signature deal then he would have a trade with caution warning because he sold his signature twice.

So you're basically asking to ignore all positive trust, got it.

I am saying to ignore insubstantial trades Wink

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Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

If there are a lot of disputes that escalate to bit-x then the more likely scenario is that marco would be removed from his position of managing the signature campaign

There is one 'dispute' due to one user not being happy with his supposed lower payout and his jealously of another user ("why didn't you do this to that user and only me.." type stuff)

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January 31, 2015, 10:50:34 PM

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Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 10:49:37 PM

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 09:59:35 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

You are wrong here. Marco is essentially acting as an employee in managing and paying out for their signature campaign. Going to bit-x would be very similar to to someone escalating a dispute to someone's boss. If he did escalate to bit-x, got payment from them and them marco were to remove him from the signature campaign he could simply do the same thing again, which would likely result in him being reinstated back in the campaign.

Wrong, what I say in this campaign goes. If I decide a user will not be allowed in, they will not be allowed in.

If someone has a valid concern and brings it to the attention of the owner of bit-x then the owner of bit-x is going to have the final say. It is their money right?

I have been given full permission to have the final say in all matters regarding the signature campaign.

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Re: [BIT-X.com] [NEW RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign

January 31, 2015, 10:52:35 PM

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Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 10:50:34 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 10:49:37 PM

Quote from: marcotheminer on January 31, 2015, 09:59:35 PM

Quote from: needFREElunch on January 31, 2015, 08:07:15 PM

You are wrong here. Marco is essentially acting as an employee in managing and paying out for their signature campaign. Going to bit-x would be very similar to to someone escalating a dispute to someone's boss. If he did escalate to bit-x, got payment from them and them marco were to remove him from the signature campaign he could simply do the same thing again, which would likely result in him being reinstated back in the campaign.

Wrong, what I say in this campaign goes. If I decide a user will not be allowed in, they will not be allowed in.

If someone has a valid concern and brings it to the attention of the owner of bit-x then the owner of bit-x is going to have the final say. It is their money right?

I have been given full permission to have the final say in all matters regarding the signature campaign.

If someone complains loud enough they will get paid. Trust me on this. It is their reputation at stake, if someone is making a valid point and payment is being with held it will hurt their image and hurt their ability to attract and maintain customers.

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