Little bit suspicious...

[DiamondCardz]

Hi DiamondCardz

first u have a great name 

because im part of DMD Diamond Foundation 

but the reason i contact u is i seek someone from trustlist level who add people who gave me a positiverating to his trusted list

this way they end on beeing used by default list and their rating for me is visible for default setting users

check my posts u will see im a serious longterm member

if u can help me please add

popshot
hallared
pokeytex
TheMightyKnight
chilo
Sampey
cryptonit
danbi
Historical

to ur trust list
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

if i can give u anything for ur helping hand to make my positive rating visible just tell me mate

thx for ur help in advance

br

cryponit

btw check out my linkedin and twitter if u need more info
https://twitter.com/CryptonitDMD
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/helmut-siedl/92/460/586

That's...a tad bit suspicious. Asking me to add all the people who gave him positive trust to DefaultTrust (not that I really can anyway).

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[Quickseller]

You are on default trust, you can negative trust him for trying to solicit/buy trust

[popshot]

Hi DiamondCardz

first u have a great name 

because im part of DMD Diamond Foundation 

but the reason i contact u is i seek someone from trustlist level who add people who gave me a positiverating to his trusted list

this way they end on beeing used by default list and their rating for me is visible for default setting users

check my posts u will see im a serious longterm member

if u can help me please add

popshot
hallared
pokeytex
TheMightyKnight
chilo
Sampey
cryptonit
danbi
Historical

to ur trust list
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

if i can give u anything for ur helping hand to make my positive rating visible just tell me mate

thx for ur help in advance

br

cryponit

btw check out my linkedin and twitter if u need more info
https://twitter.com/CryptonitDMD
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/helmut-siedl/92/460/586

That's...a tad bit suspicious. Asking me to add all the people who gave him positive trust to DefaultTrust (not that I really can anyway).

I beg to differ Sir.

That sort of quick accusation without even checking the motives is ridiculously irresponsible.

The Trust points cryptonit was given were never forced upon the people. Actually the proposal came form one of the users:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg9706088#msg9706088

He's been also collectively voted for the Trusted Award by the exact people you accuse of ingenuity:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg9645113#msg9645113
Cryptonit = Helmut Siedl (Diamond)

He's been providing highly work demanding financial service to many and naturally he deserved some recognition. The problem is the trust system on BTT is broken. Positive feedback points are invisible unless some selected users on this forum (like yourself) have other people added to their own trust list.
This is discriminatory as it lives power to people who suddenly become the judge and the executioner.

I'm sure the above listed people will question your decision in this thread.

I ask you to reverse this damaging decision which doesn't do good to anyone here.

[popshot]

Obvious scammer is obvious.
Do not do it.

And you obviously know nothing so please spare us your uneducated opinions.

[cryptonit]

really this trust system is broken
people who make business with u and reward u positive trust are invisible
people who did never deal with u can make visible negative feedback

i am close to the point leave BTT and move all comunication on our own forum

check the guy who gave me negative feedback
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

if someone abuse the trust system than he
damaging a honorable community member he never exchanges a written or spoken word
he know nothing about me

BUT please none give him a negative rating please
thats not the way we deal with that

we seek for understanding that this time he was wrong

i request honourable members of BTT counter this wrong decision by check out my history
and give me a positive rating if u feel im a positive addition to the community

[paladin281978]

really this trust system is broken
people who make business with u and reward u positive trust are invisible
people who did never deal with u can make visible negative feedback

totally agree
it's not fair!

[zetaray]

Vod gave him negative trust for soliciting trust. The guy must wish he had never sent those PM. Way to go Vod!

[stoody]

cryptonit trust level needs to be put right... hes not a scamer nor did he try to "buy" anyones trust score.. he is an honest guy and a very trustworthy person. PLEASE put this right or it will damage our coin and he has worked so hard to develop and promote it (aswell as the rest of the dev team) if u need some kind of evidence of who he is or how he works just go to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.0      read all 229 pages of the forum and see for ur self

[KWH]

if i can give u anything for ur helping hand to make my positive rating visible just tell me mate

Requesting a mass add to the Default list along with the above message is seen as attempting to purchase an add to the Default Trust list. In short: Buying Trust. This will be given a negative every time and if you need an explanation of why, it only solidifies Vod's reasoning was sound.

[cryptonit]

Are those accounts owned by him, or are they other developers ?

its all real users investors in DMD CLoudmining

it wasnt even my idea to work on our trust rating
a commiunity member asked that people should give me a positive rating

and we did know nothing about this flawed trust system so we read and we found explaination

to be visible a guy with at least level2 on default trust list must have people on his own trusted list then their ratings are visible

and now im target of holly inquisition?

[cryptonit]

if i can give u anything for ur helping hand to make my positive rating visible just tell me mate

Requesting a mass add to the Default list along with the above message is seen as attempting to purchase an add to the Default Trust list. In short: Buying Trust. This will be given a negative every time and if you need an explanation of why, it only solidifies Vod's reasoning was sound.

i didnt want to pay him


i started the to ask him for a helping hand

which include study who i am who the people are who did gave a positive rating and if he think they are trustworthy add them to his trusted list


and i offered to give him a helping hand

nowhere i was meaning to pay him for blind approve positive rating

im non native english speaker if it was written in a way possible missunderstanding im sorry

[KWH]

Are those accounts owned by him, or are they other developers ?

its all real users investors in DMD CLoudmining

it want even my idea to work on our trust rating
a comiunity member asked that people should give me a positive rating

and we did know nothing about this flawed trust system so we read and we found explaination

to be visible a guy with at least level2 on default trust list must have people on his own trusted list then their ratings are visible

and no im target of holly inquisition?

Claiming ignorance is no defense. You have been around long enough to know what you were attempting was wrong, why you chose to PM the offer instead of making a thread. Jumping on the "Flawed Trust System" excuse is just as bad.

[cryptonit]

You have been around long enough to know what you were attempting was wrong, why you chose to PM the offer instead of making a thread. Jumping on the "Flawed Trust System" excuse is just as bad.

its the user who is wrong never the system correct?
its like a mirracle to find out how this trust system works and when we try get good intended use of it
(make real people positive ratings visible) we are evil?

a single guy can damage so much who didnt spend a minuted to research

and there is no way to counter that

where are the times when people did act friendly to each other?

why no one said to me "cryptonit the way u think it work is wrong"
and point me to the correct way it works

[KWH]

You have been around long enough to know what you were attempting was wrong, why you chose to PM the offer instead of making a thread. Jumping on the "Flawed Trust System" excuse is just as bad.

its the user who is wrong never the system correct?
its like a mirracle to find out how this trust system works and when we try get good intended use of it
(make real people positive ratings visible) we are evil?

a single guy can damage so much who didnt spend a minuted to research

and there is no way to counter that

where are the times when people did act friendly to each other?

why no one said to me "cryptonit the way u think it work is wrong"
and point me to the correct way it works

why no one said to me "cryptonit the way u think it work is wrong"
and point me to the correct way it works

Common sense?


Had you made a public thread asking for this then I could have seen this differently but you didn't.
Funny how you now rag on the same Trust system as "broken" and "unfair" that you tried to buy your way onto. People are funny that way.

I would suggest this:
Make a public thread, apologize for your mistake and once this is done, ask vod to reconsider.
Remember there are no guarantees he will but worth a shot.

[cryptonit]

2 days before i contacted diamondcardz

i wrote a PM to the trustsystem inventor (at least i think he is)

its not like i didnt try follow a way by contact the moderators/admins

but they didnt reply

i always asked for them same as with diamondcardz to check me out if i am trustworthy in their opinion

i never asked for being blind classified as trustworthy

[cryptonit]

I would suggest this:
Make a public thread, apologize for your mistake and once this is done, ask vod to reconsider.
Remember there are no guarantees he will but worth a shot.

this here is the thread
i already said im sorry if my pm was missunderstanding and someone could belive because of bad english i want to pay for votes

that was never intended

i just see lot time is involved analyze me and then rate if i am trustworthy

and i am willing invest time too for someone who invest time for me

thats what i call a helping hand

i have to say sorry to diamondcardz for confuse him up to a degree he was thinking there is a scam atempt....

and i cant understand how something like give a bad rating can be done without invest time to analyze the man

just check the responce in out thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg9756239#msg9756239
u wont find any bad word there written about me

[Bitcoins101]

2 days before i contacted diamondcardz

i wrote a PM to the trustsystem inventor (at least i think he is)

its not like i didnt try follow a way by contact the moderators/admins

but they didnt reply

i always asked for them same as with diamondcardz to check me out if i am trustworthy in their opinion

i never asked for being blind classified as trustworthy

That's not how it works. You do not "apply" for someone's trust - someone will leave you positive trust if they deem you trustworthy, but you don't request it.

The ignorance is real here. That's kind of a ridiculous PM, especially to theymos of all people. cryptonit seems very unaccustomed to this type of community.

[redsn0w]

My opinion :


I think we need a decentralized trust sistem (I mean in the new forum software) , I know it will be difficult to do but this is the solution.  If you don't trade for 3 months you lose  your status of defaultTrust "user" ( If is it not right , propose something better). Thanks for the attention .

[paladin281978]

unambiguously voting system is not perfect and needs some work

[hallared]

I just want to state that the trust feedback I gave Helmut Siedl (aka Cryptonit) is my own true words. He has proven his reliability several times and have earned my trust. I have invested twice in the DMD Cloudmining and he has always acted with professionalism and handled my investment according to our agreements. There is no scam involved in this whatsoever.

My personal opinion about Helmut Siedl is that he is a valuable member of DMD Foundation and is an honorable person with high morale and good intentions.

Finally I want to make one thing clear, this account is my personal account here on Bitcointalk. If someone thinks otherwise, that person should contact me prior to making any statements.