Did the police fuck up here?

[Bizmark13]

Sometimes the police do good things. When terrorists kidnapped the Jewish athletes in the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, it was the police officers who risked their lives to save them. They failed to save them, but I think most people would agree that the fact they tried makes their actions good and heroic.

But then, I see stuff like this:



"Waiuku Police went to an address looking for someone in relation to not completing community work. As a result we arrested a 44 year old male for having drug related pipes on him in the bedroom. This was not the person we were after, but I suppose you could say was a bonus."

What do you think? Do you think they were justified in this occasion? If someone has a couple of marijuana pipes and isn't causing anyone harm then I see no reason why they should be harassed like this.

[cryptocoiner]

[JLynn171]

I could go on and on with the corruption that i have personally seen in the United states police state of america...

the fact that they would lock anyone way like a dog in a a concrete hole over a plant that is grown from seeds and water is beyond any comprehensive thought i cant try to make.

[TheButterZone]

No victim, no crime.

[TECSHARE]

Strictly speaking this should not be admissible in court in the US. When a warrant is issued it is supposed to outline the evidence to be seized, the crime, and the persons targeted in the raid. It could have been that the paraphernalia was out in the open and therefore did not constitute a search even though they were already in the dwelling. Unfortunately often things police just stumble upon become a bigger deal than what they showed up there for, and 3rd parties get wrapped up in lots of legal troubles as a result of someone else's actions. On a side note, where is this located? That cop looks like as if he is from the U.K.

[exoton]

Strictly speaking this should not be admissible in court in the US. When a warrant is issued it is supposed to outline the evidence to be seized, the crime, and the persons targeted in the raid. It could have been that the paraphernalia was out in the open and therefore did not constitute a search even though they were already in the dwelling. Unfortunately often things police just stumble upon become a bigger deal than what they showed up there for, and 3rd parties get wrapped up in lots of legal troubles as a result of someone else's actions. On a side note, where is this located? That cop looks like as if he is from the U.K.

When a warrant is issued, it is to outline both what can be seized and where the police can look. If the police are looking in places that are outlined in the warrant and stumble upon evidence of a crime they were not previously aware of then, they can investigate and arrest people for such crimes.

The moral of this is that it is advisable to not be involved with people who are doing other illegal activity

[Candystripes]

Yes, they fucked up. Definitely.

F*** the police.

[LiberyOrDeath]

Sometimes the police do good things. When terrorists kidnapped the Jewish athletes in the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, it was the police officers who risked their lives to save them. They failed to save them, but I think most people would agree that the fact they tried makes their actions good and heroic.

But then, I see stuff like this:



"Waiuku Police went to an address looking for someone in relation to not completing community work. As a result we arrested a 44 year old male for having drug related pipes on him in the bedroom. This was not the person we were after, but I suppose you could say was a bonus."

What do you think? Do you think they were justified in this occasion? If someone has a couple of marijuana pipes and isn't causing anyone harm then I see no reason why they should be harassed like this.

Police always fuck up

[Dogtanian]

Obviously it shouldn't be an arrestable offense to take drugs or own drug paraphernalia, but if the cops spot something illegal going on wherever they are then they're going to act on it. But yeah, fuck cops  .

[cryptocoiner]

I SAY

[cryptocoiner]

No victim, no crime.

totally agree

[cryptocoiner]

[BRE]

I dont believe all police are bad people.
Actually, I believe the majority of people in general to be good, and therefore would expect the same ratio in the police profession.
However I feel police are misled via their training and due to the requirements of their jobs, into bad decisions, which reflects upon them as people.

[Spendulus]

No victim, no crime.

totally agree

Find a crime, create victim, jail victim.

Wait...

[sobitcoin]

Sometimes the police do good things. When terrorists kidnapped the Jewish athletes in the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, it was the police officers who risked their lives to save them. They failed to save them, but I think most people would agree that the fact they tried makes their actions good and heroic.

But then, I see stuff like this:



"Waiuku Police went to an address looking for someone in relation to not completing community work. As a result we arrested a 44 year old male for having drug related pipes on him in the bedroom. This was not the person we were after, but I suppose you could say was a bonus."

What do you think? Do you think they were justified in this occasion? If someone has a couple of marijuana pipes and isn't causing anyone harm then I see no reason why they should be harassed like this.

Police always fuck up

Fact. Source from my town - http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/10/05/lethbridge-pot-bust-daisies_n_1943328.html

[JLynn171]

Firemen dont drive around looking for fires... Ambulance dont drive around looking for hurt people...
Fireman go out when someone or something is on fire... Ambulance go out when some one is sick and need fast ride to hospital...

Cop drives around looking for victimless crimes... Cops should only be dispatched when a crime has been commited against someone or someones property.

[Possum577]

If it's illegal to have possession of the pipes, then yes the cops did the right thing. It's like getting busted for speeding...cops aren't looking for YOU speeding but you if you drive right past them speeding you should get pulled over.

Why so much tolerance for the criminals these days?

The US Garner (Staten Island) and Cleveland incidents excluded...Ferguson though, that guy assaulted an officer, was looking for confrontation.

[Possum577]

Firemen dont drive around looking for fires... Ambulance dont drive around looking for hurt people...
Fireman go out when someone or something is on fire... Ambulance go out when some one is sick and need fast ride to hospital...

Cop drives around looking for victimless crimes... Cops should only be dispatched when a crime has been commited against someone or someones property.

The cop's job is to go around looking for people breaking the law. The people that come around after someone has broken the law are the paramedics and the insurance adjusters. If cops are only dispatched after a crime has been committed every crime would be able to be committed without being caught in the act.

[TheButterZone]

Firemen dont drive around looking for fires... Ambulance dont drive around looking for hurt people...
Fireman go out when someone or something is on fire... Ambulance go out when some one is sick and need fast ride to hospital...

Cop drives around looking for victimless crimes... Cops should only be dispatched when a crime has been commited against someone or someones property.

The cop's job is to go around looking for people breaking the law. The people that come around after someone has broken the law are the paramedics and the insurance adjusters. If cops are only dispatched after a crime has been committed every crime would be able to be committed without being caught in the act.

Who is going to knowingly commit a crime in front of a cop? Nobody; the theory of a uniform and marked vehicle patrol is deterrence via identification. Almost every crime lasting fewer than 5 minutes is committed without being caught, by uniformed police (who take minutes to arrive because we cannot afford to pay for a 1:1 cop:civilian ratio in any society), in the act.

If cops were plainclothed (and law-abiding sane civilians were armed), criminals with self-preservation instincts (99.9% of them) would have to view everyone as a possible threat, and only risk targeting victims who don't seem to be able to conceal a carry weapon, when nobody else is around.

[Balthazar]

Real police officer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z883vZRCpsA