JLynn171
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December 09, 2014, 04:09:05 PM |
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If it's illegal to have possession of the pipes, then yes the cops did the right thing. It's like getting busted for speeding...cops aren't looking for YOU speeding but you if you drive right past them speeding you should get pulled over.
Why so much tolerance for the criminals these days?
The US Garner (Staten Island) and Cleveland incidents excluded...Ferguson though, that guy assaulted an officer, was looking for confrontation.
If the cops arent looking for you speeding why are they sitting on the side of the highway with a radar gun checkking to see if you are speeding? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNA18Aba.jpg&t=665&c=N9OBlU98negL7w)
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December 09, 2014, 04:17:53 PM |
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No victim, no crime.
totally agree Depends on your definition of victim though. To be clear what I mean: Yes, if you murder someone then obviously the victim is the person you killed. However, if you're high on drugs (not necessarily weed, I'll give you that) aren't you more likely to harass someone, or commit some other crime to feed your addiction? Or how about the fact that drug addicts usually don't have jobs, so they financially harm the rest of society.
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malaimult
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December 10, 2014, 06:48:27 AM |
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Strictly speaking this should not be admissible in court in the US. When a warrant is issued it is supposed to outline the evidence to be seized, the crime, and the persons targeted in the raid. It could have been that the paraphernalia was out in the open and therefore did not constitute a search even though they were already in the dwelling. Unfortunately often things police just stumble upon become a bigger deal than what they showed up there for, and 3rd parties get wrapped up in lots of legal troubles as a result of someone else's actions. On a side note, where is this located? That cop looks like as if he is from the U.K.
The police will often identify anyone they encounter in a residence they are executing a warrant on. If they encounter someone who has an outstanding warrant then they will arrest such person. When someone is arrested, it has been accepted by the US supreme court that their immediate person can be searched.
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December 10, 2014, 02:15:04 PM |
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I don't know why you people are still surprised by this kind of "news", police do anything they like to at this point, someone in good faith thinks his serving a greater good by picking every small infraction to the law, others just like to see people suffer I guess.
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December 10, 2014, 02:17:48 PM |
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I dont believe all police are bad people. Actually, I believe the majority of people in general to be good, and therefore would expect the same ratio in the police profession. However I feel police are misled via their training and due to the requirements of their jobs, into bad decisions, which reflects upon them as people.
thx captain obvious
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exoton
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December 11, 2014, 12:37:39 AM |
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No victim, no crime.
For many crimes, it is "society" who suffers from a particular crime. This is why most (if not all) states will try most cases as "the people vs [the defendant]" or "the commonwealth vs [the defendant]" as something happened that causes society as a whole to deteriorate. This will result in one particular person being victimized however a crime would still occur
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December 11, 2014, 03:52:33 PM |
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No victim, no crime.
For many crimes, it is "society" who suffers from a particular crime. This is why most (if not all) states will try most cases as "the people vs [the defendant]" or "the commonwealth vs [the defendant]" as something happened that causes society as a whole to deteriorate. This will result in one particular person being victimized however a crime would still occur The only thing that makes society suffer is politics....
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cryptocoiner
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December 11, 2014, 04:28:28 PM |
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No victim, no crime.
For many crimes, it is "society" who suffers from a particular crime. This is why most (if not all) states will try most cases as "the people vs [the defendant]" or "the commonwealth vs [the defendant]" as something happened that causes society as a whole to deteriorate. This will result in one particular person being victimized however a crime would still occur The only thing that makes society suffer is politics.... bankers... not politics
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December 11, 2014, 04:46:28 PM |
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On a side note, where is this located? That cop looks like as if he is from the U.K.
Pretty sure it's New Zealand. And no, the police didn't fuck up... they entered the property legally and, in so doing, observed something that either led to suspicion of an offence (which gives grounds for arrest / search) and/or items were in plain sight... The would have fucked up if they'd simply ignored the drugs paraphernalia as 'unrelated' to the person they were looking for.
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December 11, 2014, 10:16:10 PM |
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Holy shit. Was this guy in the Russian version of Terminator?
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exoton
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December 16, 2014, 04:38:35 AM |
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No victim, no crime.
For many crimes, it is "society" who suffers from a particular crime. This is why most (if not all) states will try most cases as "the people vs [the defendant]" or "the commonwealth vs [the defendant]" as something happened that causes society as a whole to deteriorate. This will result in one particular person being victimized however a crime would still occur The only thing that makes society suffer is politics.... I would really disagree with that. You have violent crimes against people that makes whole communities suffer. When you have people doing things like speeding at reckless speeds, it puts other drivers in danger
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