[Closed] Legendaries review party of Spondoolies-Tech's SP20

[MrTeal]

Mine is posted up here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=901771.msg9911121#msg9911121
I locked the thread to help reduce clutter, if you have any questions please continue them here.

[raskul]

very good MrTeal, it's great so see some extra insight into the workings

[Bicknellski]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

Interesting. Does Dogie have to pay for his 30 or so threads where he posts ads inside his guides circumventing the paid ads here in the forums?

Or say the 10 or so Technobit threads?

Consistency?

Have they been urged to collate their threads into a single one?

What about Antminer threads?

[Guy Corem]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

Interesting. Does Dogie have to pay for his 30 or so threads where he posts ads inside his guides circumventing the paid ads here in the forums?

Or say the 10 or so Technobit threads?

Consistency?

Have they been urged to collate their threads into a single one?

What about Antminer threads?

So true.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=898999.msg9937767#msg9937767

[Guy Corem]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=904873.msg9943660#msg9943660

@TECSHARE, thank you for the review (thread was locked, so I replied here)

[bgibso01]

Hopefully I'll receive both my SP20s and S5 units before year end.  Really looking forward to the comparison. "Loud" is so subjective, its the only thing that has ever really been noted as a negative for the SPs.

[Biodom]

Hopefully I'll receive both my SP20s and S5 units before year end.  Really looking forward to the comparison. "Loud" is so subjective, its the only thing that has ever really been noted as a negative for the SPs.

I can post dB values, but most people already know these.
Paradoxically, fan 50 makes subjectively less noise than fan 40 (at least on my miner).
I think that there is some resonance from the metal cage, which makes it sound louder at (in my case) lower setting.

[wpgdeez]

I understand but these should really have all been collated here as it ends up being advertising for spondoolies on the forum that costs spondoolies but did not actually pay the forum. Unfortunately there is no merge function in this forum software which would be the ideal solution. Out of respect for the legendaries I've forgone the locking for now, but can I urge the reviewers themselves to lock their threads and refer back to this one once they have completed whatever they have to say instead then?

Interesting. Does Dogie have to pay for his 30 or so threads where he posts ads inside his guides circumventing the paid ads here in the forums?

Or say the 10 or so Technobit threads?

Consistency?

Have they been urged to collate their threads into a single one?

What about Antminer threads?

So true.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=898999.msg9937767#msg9937767

The other vendors didn't ask that a bunch of reviews be made for the same product then have their shills bump basically the same thing over and over. Same s%# different topic. It is a surprisingly good tactic to buy advertising space on the first page without supporting the forum that has helped bring recognition to your brand.

It's clever but shady, something I would expect more from someone like BFL. But then again Spondoolies tech has never been completely forthright with their product, they like to stretch the truth about their miners and spread fud about their competitors like Bitmain but I guess that is the nature of the beast.

This glorious SP20 should not be advertised as an at home miner due to the noise. Multiple reviews have stated that this is more like a 1.5 thash machine not a 1.7 under normal operating conditions yet it continues to be advertised at that rate.

You should be more honest with your hashrate and efficiency numbers. Do your calculations at 1500 and post the actual watts\ghash for that.

[Guy Corem]

bla bla bla

Thank you for bumping the thread. Please post your opinion in the reviews thread as well.
Dogie salvaged the "Spam" thread from Trash to Meta. You're welcome to post there as well.

[philipma1957]

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This glorious SP20 should not be advertised as an at home miner due to the noise. Multiple reviews have stated that this is more like a 1.5 thash machine not a 1.7 under normal operating conditions yet it continues to be advertised at that rate.

You should be more honest with your hashrate and efficiency numbers. Do your calculations at 1500 and post the actual watts\ghash for that.

I edited the rest out above the ...

  I bolded what I disagree with.

 The noise can work in a home but it is noisy. You need a big enough home to have a space for it.

I really agree on your 1700 gh comment.

Although I have 8 of these and 2  more on order I do agree they are not a 1700gh miner +- (10%)

They are 1625gh on the high side and they use a lot of power to get there.
They are amazing on the 1100gh or less clocks.

 They  beat  just about every home miner there is for watts per gh if you downclock.

I would have sold them at 1500gh with a small overclock possible

[Syke]

I really agree on your 1700 gh comment.

Although I have 8 of these and 2  more on order I do agree they are not a 1700gh miner +- (10%)

They are 1625gh on the high side and they use a lot of power to get there.
They are amazing on the 1100gh or less clocks.

 They  beat  just about every home miner there is for watts per gh if you downclock.

I would have sold them at 1500gh with a small overclock possible

The RockerBox chip is designed as a 200 GH/s chip, and there are 8 in the SP20, so it really is a 1600 GH/s miner.

[philipma1957]

I really agree on your 1700 gh comment.

Although I have 8 of these and 2  more on order I do agree they are not a 1700gh miner +- (10%)

They are 1625gh on the high side and they use a lot of power to get there.
They are amazing on the 1100gh or less clocks.

 They  beat  just about every home miner there is for watts per gh if you downclock.

I would have sold them at 1500gh with a small overclock possible

The RockerBox chip is designed as a 200 GH/s chip, and there are 8 in the SP20, so it really is a 1600 GH/s miner.

yeah every one I have got above 1600 using the evga 1300 g2 psu

and having the fan at 80 but I am in a costly power area and getting the gear down to
1100gh or even 1000gh lowers watts per gh under .5 watts. also allows lower fan speeds.
My power is 13 cents until may 31st  then 16 cents.
Since I can manage the noise and take advantage of the heat in the winter my electrical bill reduces from 13 cents a kwatt to 10 cents a kwatt as the heat gain is worth 3 cents a kwatt. 

So the .46 or .47 watts per gh is really the single most important feature for me in my setup. at my net of10 cents a kwatt until may these miners work better then any other on the market.



I get other miners wanted 1700 or 1750 gh.
I even get wanting to do 1600 and a fast fan setting. Spondoolies should have listed 1500 with 1600 upclocked. Would have been an easier point to defend.

Besides the way I see it home miner choice will be s-5 and or sp20 very soon.

[bgibso01]

Besides the way I see it home miner choice will be s-5 and or sp20 very soon.

That's what I'm banking on.  I'll have both in here next week to decide which I like better. I've got a 220v 30a circuit just waiting for them.

[philipma1957]

Besides the way I see it home miner choice will be s-5 and or sp20 very soon.

That's what I'm banking on.  I'll have both in here next week to decide which I like better. I've got a 220v 30a circuit just waiting for them.

that is the way to go.

 I have tons of sp20's  but I flex and will switch out on a dime to the s-5 if it is tons better.

My guess is in my home I will have 7 -10 sp20s and 2 or 3 s-5's and run the for the next 3 months.

[wh00per]

My guess is in my home I will have 7 -10 sp20s and 2 or 3 s-5's and run the for the next 3 months.

You Phil, .. are officially addicted.

[jjiimm_64]

Besides the way I see it home miner choice will be s-5 and or sp20 very soon.

That's what I'm banking on.  I'll have both in here next week to decide which I like better. I've got a 220v 30a circuit just waiting for them.

that is the way to go.

 I have tons of sp20's  but I flex and will switch out on a dime to the s-5 if it is tons better.

My guess is in my home I will have 7 -10 sp20s and 2 or 3 s-5's and run the for the next 3 months.

I am also thinking sp20 or s5.

after reviewing the sp20 (thxs spoon).  I and a partner made a 30 sp20 purchase.  I currently have the sp20 running at 1187gh on 625watts. But the ability to run at 1640gh is a nice to have if the diff starts growing fast.

I just purchased a S5 to evaluate.

I have about 20 S2's I need to replace.  It will be the sp20 or the S5 depending on the comparison.

[notlist3d]

Besides the way I see it home miner choice will be s-5 and or sp20 very soon.

That's what I'm banking on.  I'll have both in here next week to decide which I like better. I've got a 220v 30a circuit just waiting for them.

that is the way to go.

 I have tons of sp20's  but I flex and will switch out on a dime to the s-5 if it is tons better.

My guess is in my home I will have 7 -10 sp20s and 2 or 3 s-5's and run the for the next 3 months.

I am also thinking sp20 or s5.

after reviewing the sp20 (thxs spoon).  I and a partner made a 30 sp20 purchase.  I currently have the sp20 running at 1187gh on 625watts. But the ability to run at 1640gh is a nice to have if the diff starts growing fast.

I just purchased a S5 to evaluate.

I have about 20 S2's I need to replace.  It will be the sp20 or the S5 depending on the comparison.

The SP20 has been very well tested and put through the ringer.  It is a quality miner.   I know the SP team earned some loyalty from me.  Their customer service was top notch.

I won't bash the other company again just say doing a certain water cooled miner has me not to anxious to order from the other company, I want to stick with SP products.  I never thought I would be told a pump that was dry tested by the seller dying was my fault, and it was my fault a wiring harness had crossed wires and started fires..... for this quality became a serious factor in my future purchases.  And SP gear is quality.

[philipma1957]

Besides the way I see it home miner choice will be s-5 and or sp20 very soon.

That's what I'm banking on.  I'll have both in here next week to decide which I like better. I've got a 220v 30a circuit just waiting for them.

that is the way to go.

 I have tons of sp20's  but I flex and will switch out on a dime to the s-5 if it is tons better.

My guess is in my home I will have 7 -10 sp20s and 2 or 3 s-5's and run the for the next 3 months.

I am also thinking sp20 or s5.

after reviewing the sp20 (thxs spoon).  I and a partner made a 30 sp20 purchase.  I currently have the sp20 running at 1187gh on 625watts. But the ability to run at 1640gh is a nice to have if the diff starts growing fast.

I just purchased a S5 to evaluate.

I have about 20 S2's I need to replace.  It will be the sp20 or the S5 depending on the comparison.

The SP20 has been very well tested and put through the ringer.  It is a quality miner.   I know the SP team earned some loyalty from me.  Their customer service was top notch.

I won't bash the other company again just say doing a certain water cooled miner has me not to anxious to order from the other company, I want to stick with SP products.  I never thought I would be told a pump that was dry tested by the seller dying was my fault, and it was my fault a wiring harness had crossed wires and started fires..... for this quality became a serious factor in my future purchases.  And SP gear is quality.

I won't speak against s-2 s-4 or c-1.  I never owned them.

I will speak for the s-1 and s-3 > I had lots of them. 30 good 1 bad.  The controller was doa. I got an rma for it.

 I still have 2x s-3's running non stop 24/7/365  since Late July.  0 issues they just run. 
They are in a low power place  my friend's office power cost is 3 cents a kwatt.
I did clock them at freq 212 so I get 425+425 gh = 850gh

As much as I like the sp20 it would be too noisy in his office.

  I may replace the pair of s-3s with a s-5.
hash would go up from 850 to 1100
power would drop from 650 to 600

[jimmothy]

As much as I like the sp20 it would be too noisy in his office.

The noise doesn't have to be an issue. See my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897053.msg9931911#msg9931911

[Guy Corem]

As much as I like the sp20 it would be too noisy in his office.

The noise doesn't have to be an issue. See my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897053.msg9931911#msg9931911

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