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May 19, 2011, 09:11:02 AM
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May 19, 2011, 10:18:22 AM
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Shooting you a PM Smiley
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May 19, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
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May 19, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
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what about shipping to Russia?
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May 19, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
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I could ship internationally but it will cost more then listed prices. Send me a pm to discuss details.
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May 19, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
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I could ship internationally but it will cost more then listed prices. Send me a pm to discuss details.

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May 19, 2011, 08:37:29 PM
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I sent you a PM, looking forward to hearing back from you.

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May 19, 2011, 10:43:23 PM
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Well folks, I'd be really careful with this transaction.

I've offered to buy all three through Clearcoin, which was refused unless I release Clearcoin after I received the tracking numbers. Since it's easy to generate tracking numbers and never send anything or send empty boxes, that makes it kind of pointless.

To protect against a scam, I offered to transfer cash via Paypal and then he could refund the Paypal and I would send the BTC after I received the cards.  This offer was refused as well.

He suggested that I send half (105 BTC) through Clearcoin and release that after he provided the tracking numbers and then the other half after receiving the cards.  Again, that leaves me out 105 BTC if nothing is shipped, a sizable amount by any measure.

I then offered to transfer the funds to a trusted third party that we both can agree on, which was refused.  I then offered to just buy them outright on Paypal AND cover the fees, so there would be no cost or hassle to him... this, too, was refused.  One of the replies stated that if he can't find anyone to trust him on here (meaning send him $1400+ in BTC anonymously), he would eBay them or post them on OCN.  So... he is willing to eBay them and pay eBay fees and Paypal fees, but he's not willing to sell for Paypal outright with the fees being covered?  Umm, hello?

Not saying this guy is scamming, but it basically flags every single tickmark in the "This is probably a scam" brochure.

1. Just signed up with the forum today. Check
2. First thread is selling exceptionally desirable equipment for exceptionally good prices. Check
3. Wants payment up front. Check
4. Won't deal with any sort of method that protects the buyer. Check
5. Won't take PPUSD. Check

I even offered up my name, home address and phone number so that he knows I'm legit, but nothing will sway him.  This could be legitimate, but the fact that he's willing to sell on eBay (and consequently Paypal) and have to absorb those fees, but he's not willing to sell with the fees covered basically sealed the fact for me that there is something hinky going on here.

Buyer beware is all I have to say.  Not trying to denigrate anyone or threadcrap, but there's nothing to make me feel comfortable with this deal at all.  Maybe someone will get a smoking deal by taking a chance, but that person is not, apparently, going to be me.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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May 19, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
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@Inaba Thanks you just convinced me to steer clear as well, unless he can be more lenient towards people who can prove their worth.

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May 19, 2011, 11:30:28 PM
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I would also like to say for the record that I have also tried the following with this seller:
-Offered to use clearcoin, he declined saying it's too easy for the buyer to screw over the seller this way
-Offered to have him list them on eBay with a buy-it-now, that way we are both protected, he declined as well
-Offered to use a trusted third party on the forum to mediate, this was also declined

Agreed that this is very suspicious...
Well folks, I'd be really careful with this transaction.

I've offered to buy all three through Clearcoin, which was refused unless I release Clearcoin after I received the tracking numbers. Since it's easy to generate tracking numbers and never send anything or send empty boxes, that makes it kind of pointless.

To protect against a scam, I offered to transfer cash via Paypal and then he could refund the Paypal and I would send the BTC after I received the cards.  This offer was refused as well.

He suggested that I send half (105 BTC) through Clearcoin and release that after he provided the tracking numbers and then the other half after receiving the cards.  Again, that leaves me out 105 BTC if nothing is shipped, a sizable amount by any measure.

I then offered to transfer the funds to a trusted third party that we both can agree on, which was refused.  I then offered to just buy them outright on Paypal AND cover the fees, so there would be no cost or hassle to him... this, too, was refused.  One of the replies stated that if he can't find anyone to trust him on here (meaning send him $1400+ in BTC anonymously), he would eBay them or post them on OCN.  So... he is willing to eBay them and pay eBay fees and Paypal fees, but he's not willing to sell for Paypal outright with the fees being covered?  Umm, hello?

Not saying this guy is scamming, but it basically flags every single tickmark in the "This is probably a scam" brochure.

1. Just signed up with the forum today. Check
2. First thread is selling exceptionally desirable equipment for exceptionally good prices. Check
3. Wants payment up front. Check
4. Won't deal with any sort of method that protects the buyer. Check
5. Won't take PPUSD. Check

I even offered up my name, home address and phone number so that he knows I'm legit, but nothing will sway him.  This could be legitimate, but the fact that he's willing to sell on eBay (and consequently Paypal) and have to absorb those fees, but he's not willing to sell with the fees covered basically sealed the fact for me that there is something hinky going on here.

Buyer beware is all I have to say.  Not trying to denigrate anyone or threadcrap, but there's nothing to make me feel comfortable with this deal at all.  Maybe someone will get a smoking deal by taking a chance, but that person is not, apparently, going to be me.

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May 19, 2011, 11:54:19 PM
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I'd really like these cards too, but all the effort to avoid all the reasonable offers has me sketched.
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May 19, 2011, 11:58:08 PM
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Sounds fishy. Jump ship everyone!

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May 20, 2011, 01:09:20 AM
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I hope no one falls for this.  Sad

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May 20, 2011, 01:39:50 AM
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Well, I did fall for this.  May be my trusting nature, but we'll see.  I have sent him the 210 BTC as can be seen here:

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1CUkXvEbAgWAqtJockjXyJBu91TY5CHhen

Whether he is honest, or not, I'll report back and let y'all know.

Of course, an immediate confirmation of dishonesty would be if he accepted payment from anyone else as well.  Did anyone else ship him any BTC?  Without someone else buying it as well, I choose to be optimistic for now.  The last time I trusted someone from these forums (gusti), it worked out well.  I hope this one will too.

Jere

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May 20, 2011, 01:41:21 AM
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Well, I did fall for this.  May be my trusting nature, but we'll see.  I have sent him the 210 BTC as can be seen here:

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1CUkXvEbAgWAqtJockjXyJBu91TY5CHhen

Whether he is honest, or not, I'll report back and let y'all know.

Of course, an immediate confirmation of dishonesty would be if he accepted payment from anyone else as well.  Did anyone else ship him any BTC?  Without someone else buying it as well, I choose to be optimistic for now.  The last time I trusted someone from these forums (gusti), it worked out well.  I hope this one will too.

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Gusti has a very good reputation though. Good luck, and keep us posted.

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May 20, 2011, 04:44:46 AM
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Following this, hope you don't get scammed. Pretty trusting.
I hope you at least got verified contact info.

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May 20, 2011, 03:29:11 PM
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The fact that he hasn't posted here to defend himself is a bit strange as well. If I were legit, I'd have said something and kept people posted in this thread to build my rep.  Good luck man, I hope you get your smokin' deal on these cards.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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May 20, 2011, 05:00:41 PM
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Now, I could be wrong but on that block explorer I see that he has been sent 80 btc from one address, and 210 from another address, it looks like he is overselling a supply that I am doubtful he actually has Sad

Here is the shortlink or just click the link above, I personally dont have much experience with block explorer so I don't know for sure.
http://blockexplorer.com/a/5mk53fpmKc

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May 20, 2011, 06:15:59 PM
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Now, I could be wrong but on that block explorer I see that he has been sent 80 btc from one address, and 210 from another address, it looks like he is overselling a supply that I am doubtful he actually has Sad

Here is the shortlink or just click the link above, I personally dont have much experience with block explorer so I don't know for sure.
http://blockexplorer.com/a/5mk53fpmKc

Nope, from the looks of it he received 130 and then 80 in separate transactions.
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May 20, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
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I would not assume this has gone bad quite yet.  He closed the topic and it is not sure that he got more then the total asking price. 

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