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December 31, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
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try running the included fan at 5V without PWM. The noise is managable (slightly louder than s3, but about 30% of the 12V volume), and the board temperatures should be about 54C in cold air or 63C in a warm room. Its still not something for a living room, but a basement or spare bedroom would likely contain the majority of noise

How would this be done?  Direct to +5 on PSU?
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December 31, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
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If you stack them on their side, do they slide around a bit? I was thinking of using some of these in between them (from the gpu rig days): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YOHP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1




4 small pieces of this would work well.  small like ½ by ½ inch or maybe ¾ by ¾ inch

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Mounting-5-Inch-75-Inch/dp/B00004Z498/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420034507&sr=8-1&keywords=double+sided+foam+tape


You could do 3 high by 2 wide.   3 sets of  wires all face out on the left for access 3 sets of wire face out on the right for access

Good idea, thanks!
  yeah the stuff is low cost staples has it.  go small so you can separate them if you need to.

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December 31, 2014, 04:23:33 PM
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back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm  pwm fan

it is now the push fan

noctua push :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

silverstone pull:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon. 

this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod.  there are better fan choices price-wise.

Just put it in and all sound problems are gone. 

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December 31, 2014, 04:36:22 PM
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back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm  pwm fan

it is now the push fan

noctua push :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

silverstone pull:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.  

this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod.  there are better fan choices price-wise.

Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.  

previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?
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December 31, 2014, 04:44:22 PM
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back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm  pwm fan

it is now the push fan

noctua push :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

silverstone pull:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.  

this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod.  there are better fan choices price-wise.

Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.  

previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?


I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks  they are pwm   meaning 4 pin  speed control direct plug into the s-5   

 2 of these would be nice for an s-5.

 I  just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.

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December 31, 2014, 05:13:32 PM
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back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm  pwm fan

it is now the push fan

noctua push :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

silverstone pull:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.  

this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod.  there are better fan choices price-wise.

Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.  

previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?


I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks  they are pwm   meaning 4 pin  speed control direct plug into the s-5   

 2 of these would be nice for an s-5.

 I  just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.


how silent/noisy are these: more or less same as noctua and silverstone? i thought that you used one delta before?
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December 31, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
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Keep in mind those ones are the 150CFM version, not the 240CFM AFB1212GHE. It is a good price though, especially for one ready to go with long leads and the 0.1" 4 pin connector.
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December 31, 2014, 05:34:28 PM
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try running the included fan at 5V without PWM. The noise is managable (slightly louder than s3, but about 30% of the 12V volume), and the board temperatures should be about 54C in cold air or 63C in a warm room. Its still not something for a living room, but a basement or spare bedroom would likely contain the majority of noise

How would this be done?  Direct to +5 on PSU?

yup, feed 5V to the red wire, GND to the black. Even a 7V adapter (yellow and red wires from PSU) helps a lot to drop noise. ideally you should get it as slow as possible while achieving <62C

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December 31, 2014, 05:41:26 PM
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back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm  pwm fan

it is now the push fan

noctua push :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

silverstone pull:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.  

this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod.  there are better fan choices price-wise.

Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.  

previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?


I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks  they are pwm   meaning 4 pin  speed control direct plug into the s-5  

 2 of these would be nice for an s-5.

 I  just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.


how silent/noisy are these: more or less same as noctua and silverstone? i thought that you used one delta before?

I used a 3 pin fixed  speed delta  which was  about 148cfm ran at 2800 to 3000 rpm it was a decent  fan purchased  form the same ebay seller  months ago. it was louder then I liked.  these on ebay will ramp up and down if clocked higher or lower at 8 dollars each two of these would be decent.  they will cool as well or better then the silverstone or the noctua will cool.  they will be not as quiet as the silverstone/noctua

they will be much quieter then the  stock fan.  since I order them from the west coast and I am on the east coast .  I may get them for monday.
I purchased them to help buyers find the best fan compromise ... at  8 bucks each 2 for 16 just clip a tiny piece on the fan connector and they will plug right in.

  I think a lot of people would like this better then the stock fan.  and at 16 bucks an s-5 pretty cheap much cheaper then 2 silverstones or 2 noctua's.

klondike_bar's idea of a fixed speed to the stock fan is a possible work around.   

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December 31, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
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back to fan tests I got the expensive noctua 3000 rpm  pwm fan

it is now the push fan

noctua push :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRATC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

silverstone pull:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


btw the way both noctua and silverstone prices went up on amazon.  

this is now more then 24 + 24 = 48 dollar mod.  there are better fan choices price-wise.

Just put it in and all sound problems are gone.  

previous price silverstone (16.99) is on backorder. Do you rec any other fan , especially for pull?


I found a really good deal on ebay five minutes ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

5 fans for 29 + 12 = 41 bucks  they are pwm   meaning 4 pin  speed control direct plug into the s-5   

 2 of these would be nice for an s-5.

 I  just ordered 1 set of 5 fans.


how silent/noisy are these: more or less same as noctua and silverstone? i thought that you used one delta before?

I used a 3 pin fixed  speed delta  which was  about 148cfm ran at 2800 to 3000 rpm it was a decent  fan purchased  form the same ebay seller  months ago. it was louder then I liked.  these on ebay will ramp up and down if clocked higher or lower at 8 dollars each two of these would be decent.  they will cool as well or better then the silverstone or the noctua will cool.  they will be not as quiet as the silverstone/noctua

they will be much quieter then the  stock fan.  since I order them from the west coast and I am on the east coast .  I may get them for monday.
I purchased them to help buyers find the best fan compromise ... at  8 bucks each 2 for 16 just clip a tiny piece on the fan connector and they will plug right in.

  I think a lot of people would like this better then the stock fan.  and at 16 bucks an s-5 pretty cheap much cheaper then 2 silverstones or 2 noctua's

thanks, much appreciated. in the end, I ordered this set and two noctuas, which have a very fast shipment using prime (will be here on Fri).
silversones were either backordered or shipping mid next week, so I cancelled those.
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December 31, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
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If anyone's interested in really pushing it, I have a pile of these TFC1212DE 250CFM monsters (or their Nidec equivalents), along with a bunch of the 25mm deep 150CFM FFB1212SH Deltas that I don't need anymore. Not all have the 4pin ends.
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December 31, 2014, 06:34:05 PM
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Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

 So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

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December 31, 2014, 07:04:50 PM
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It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.

Personally I think the Tube was a great, great layout to remove 900W with 1 fan. And that was coming from the Cube which again, raised the bar of what you can do with a silent 120mm fan (350W).
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It sounds as though Bitmain and the s5 followed AM's one fan option to dump a lot of heat. We know that didn't work out too well long term.

Personally I think the Tube was a great, great layout to remove 900W with 1 fan. And that was coming from the Cube which again, raised the bar of what you can do with a silent 120mm fan (350W).
Not professional.  Can't get paid to represent a supplier and dabble in forum skirmishes without losing some credibility. Unbecoming.
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December 31, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
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no wars over the gear please.

be nice to one another. 

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December 31, 2014, 07:16:27 PM
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Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

 So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.

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December 31, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
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Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

 So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.

Thanks for your answer! I have read your review of the Sp20 and definitely it's a close call. I can find an adapter, so i an try that.   

In matter of prices the best option it's the sp20 group@500$ each w/free shipping but its no longer available. So my i'll see my chances with S5. It cost about 510$ w/shipping to my country.

I'll Keep looking for mod, i think that 60 dB it's fine for me.

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December 31, 2014, 08:03:51 PM
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Hi i'm new on this. I have a real interest to bring a couple of S5 home but i have a concern about the no íes issue. I have read the thread and see that it's possible to reduce the noise lowering the fan volts or changing the fan but i don't now so much about cooling systems.

 So can i get any recomendation? I plan to put it in my living room and i my home temp is about 20c whole year, Thank you!

The PWM configuration of the S5 is not good for home use, but if you have a molex-3/4pin adapter that can provide 5V or 7V, it becomes managable.
The SP20 is a similar volume when set to similar specs, but has room to run much faster if you are okay with noise, or slower if you want better efficiency.

Its a close call, and I think the deciding factor is price. AT $500 w/ shipping the SP20 groupbuy is a better deal, but the 3/$1900 pack (~$630 each) loses to the S5.

Thanks for your answer! I have read your review of the Sp20 and definitely it's a close call. I can find an adapter, so i an try that.  

In matter of prices the best option it's the sp20 group@500$ each w/free shipping but its no longer available. So my i'll see my chances with S5. It cost about 510$ w/shipping to my country.

I'll Keep looking for mod, i think that 60 dB it's fine for me.

See if you can find this fan in your country

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-AFB1212SHE-Computer-Case-Power-Fan-120X120mm-Lot-of-5-/191443200211?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2c92e768d3

note it is a four pin pwm model.  I mentioned this  sale  a few post back right here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907219.msg9994638#msg9994638



and the seller is really  selling them quickly here on usa ebay.

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December 31, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
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 With the noctua + silverstone  cooling is a little better then 2 silverstones.

I now have the gear running at freq 381  hashing at 1251 power is 621 watts or .496 watts a gh   sound is decent.

 I opened a bedroom window to let in some cooler air.  

 the 381 freq stat are below

they are pretty good….

 now if the cheaper delta's from here:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/191443200211?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


do the trick sound and cooling wise. I hope they cool better then the noctua/silverstone's cool.  I hope the sound is decent.


  I would then rate the s-5 tied with the sp20

my ratings now are made with:

 2 s-5's shipped to my home for 900 + 74  to mod fans = 974-----note the fans I picked went up to 74 for two machines.

 hmmm I wonder if amazon reads this ?

2 sp20's shipped to my home for 1000 + 0 no mod = 1000 .  

 this would change if the price of the fan mod was dropped to 32 not  74 .  making 2 cost  932 not 974

  any way you look at this it is very close and your setup in home will matter.



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December 31, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
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Weve ordered 24 of these, should be here next week.

Phillip, a tremendous thanks for all the insight and noise fixes. Much appreciated.

Im assuming yes, but I take it there would be no issues running (2) of these off a single EVGA 1300G2 PSU?

Were adding this to our S3+ Farm, and we have a bunch of extra 1300s we'd like to put to use.

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