2015 is THE year of bitcoin am I right guys?

[Dafar]

Let's face it, most of 2014 was depressing.. but it's the odd years that bring all the luck!


I think it's also a good sign that people don't have ridiculous expectations this year like they did for 2014. Bitcoin does the opposite of what most people expect... and right now it seems like a lot of people expect doom. lol

[1Referee]

"The year of Bitcoin" sounds quite like a short term thought.

What happens after that "year of Bitcoin" ?? Falling back in old habits??

[Dafar]

"The year of Bitcoin" sounds quite like a short term thought.

What happens after that "year of Bitcoin" ?? Falling back in old habits??

Once the "year of Bitcoin" happens, its fall will still be higher than old habits

[Amph]

more like 2016 with the block halving, or maybe later this year

[Dafar]

more like 2016 with the block halving, or maybe later this year

I don't think we'll see much action til late 2015 or 2016 either.... we are currently in what I think will be the longest "despair phase" we have ever seen. It should shake off a lot of weaker hands currently holding

[redhawk979]

[CURRENT_YEAR + 1] is THE year of bitcoin am I right guys?

Repeat every year.

[Pecunia non olet]

should be the year of altcoins.

[LOBSTER]

Let's face it, most of 2014 was depressing.. but it's the odd years that bring all the luck!


I think it's also a good sign that people don't have ridiculous expectations this year like they did for 2014. Bitcoin does the opposite of what most people expect... and right now it seems like a lot of people expect doom. lol

2015 -> 20:15 -> prime-time! Bitcoin will go up to 85,000$!

[arieq]

Many people waiting for a new year bubble but I think we will be still <350 for long. I smell tears

[gentlemand]

Many people waiting for a new year bubble but I think we will be still <350 for long. I smell tears

Anyone sitting around betting everything on a bubble will have learnt their lesson over the course of the last few months.

It's a lovely idea, but reality shoud've beaten some sense into most.

[screwUdriver]

Many people waiting for a new year bubble but I think we will be still <350 for long. I smell tears

We do have significant resistance around the $350-$380 level however I do think we will punch through it in the somewhat near future. I would say the next catalyst for bicoin to move in either direction would be the SR/ross ulbright trial

[Ibian]

I suspect the big money that have played the market this past year are just waiting for regular adoption to bump the price. This could easily take a year or more. They might pump it enough to keep mining profitable past the block halving, but probably no more than that.

Whatever. The generous bearwhale has allowed me to get a stash 3 times as big as I originally set out for. I will either be richer than expected, or I will have lost a relatively small amount in the big scheme of life. It's a good bet.

[waaat?]

pump a good altcoin until bitcoin is ready ...

I suspect the big money that have played the market this past year are just waiting for regular adoption to bump the price. This could easily take a year or more. They might pump it enough to keep mining profitable past the block halving, but probably no more than that.

thing is: falling prices and stagnation hinder adoption. Would it be rising it would be adopted fast - get the  idea?


it's not rising because it's not adopted - and it's not adopted because it's not rising
the loop
it was and still is too profitable for miners (and will still be that for much too long) and there was no incentive for investors because all the incentive went to the miners. So now you have a strong network but investors aren't interested a lot anymore - they burned their money already, miners took it. So now it's stuck.
Inflation was never in history a good thing ever.

Next try: favour miners less

crypto is a good idea but bitcoin burned all the enthusiasm away with this kind of inflation.

Should be rising next 6 to 12 weeks and not dump afterwards considerably or it's really done imo.

[dragonseer]

Around six months ago I made a prediction of bitcoin around $1200 US in November 2015. In other words, I was predicting a bit of a rush on bitcoin as a response to another financial collapse, as 2001 -> 2008 -> 2015 on a seven year cycle. I still stand by that, I don't expect much joy in the first half of the year though.

[Amph]

more like 2016 with the block halving, or maybe later this year

I don't think we'll see much action til late 2015 or 2016 either.... we are currently in what I think will be the longest "despair phase" we have ever seen. It should shake off a lot of weaker hands currently holding

actually it's not that bad, it's accumulation time i like it, tons of bitcoin now, and tons of value later

[asdlolciterquit]

[CURRENT_YEAR + 1] is THE year of bitcoin am I right guys?

Repeat every year.

well, expcet 2014, in the past years btc have done very well!

[crazyearner]

I think that 2015 will be the year for bitcoin to tank down in price more considering that many prices other than bitcoin are falling apart and coming down. Maybe this year alone will have some cheap BTC under $100 as theirs nothing to stop it falling down as theirs been  no mega news of bitcoin doing anything new lately other than bigger corporate company's accepting it as payment even tho bigger company's are accepting it as payment their still needs to be costumes using it. If the big guns accept it and don't see enough transactions with it then as some have already done removed it will case a  bigger impact on price. For Bitcoin to go up it needs more supply and more demands. Needs more people educated about it and to know what it is and how it can improve their business for payments. Not only that but bigger things like less fees to worries about though the BANKS. If Bitcoin can get to a point that 1 in 10 people have it and know something about it then am sure prices will be a lot better as more people would be using it in some way.

[Pecunia non olet]

Running Bitcoin still costs 1 million Dollars each and every day. I think it's still too expensive. It'll have to come down maybe 90% more.

I know alts which would be much cheaper to run... Bitcoin is too expensive. No incentive for investors. Only incentive for miners. We need a coin that provides an incentive for investors too.

Bitcoin strikes no balance between miners and investors. It favours miners too much on the expense of the investors. I don't like investing in bitcoin at all right now.

8% to 12% inflation is a rippoff - it'll still be a rippoff after the halving.
More than 3% annual inflation this far into it is idiotic. Let's be honest: bitcoin is idiotic with the inflation. We've been witnessing miners dumping all year. There will be no end to the bleeding. The bleeding is infinite...

[LOBSTER]

Running Bitcoin still costs 1 million Dollars each and every day. I think it's still too expensive. It'll have to come down maybe 90% more.

I know alts which would be much cheaper to run... Bitcoin is too expensive. No incentive for investors. Only incentive for miners. We need a coin that provides an incentive for investors too.

Bitcoin strikes no balance between miners and investors. It favours miners too much on the expense of the investors. I don't like investing in bitcoin at all right now.

8% to 12% inflation is a rippoff - it'll still be a rippoff after the halving.
More than 3% annual inflation this far into it is idiotic. Let's be honest: bitcoin is idiotic with the inflation. We've been witnessing miners dumping all year. There will be no end to the bleeding. The bleeding is infinite...

What is your source of this number? 1 Million seems a little bit high...are you sure?

And what is your solution? A more efficient Altcoin?

Please remember the costs for our current Fiat-money system...you have to print money, the huge amount of employees etc.

[Pecunia non olet]

What is your source of this number? 1 Million seems a little bit high...are you sure?

And what is your solution? A more efficient Altcoin?

Please remember the costs for our current Fiat-money system...you have to print money, the huge amount of employees etc.

3600 new coins emission per day at a price of 300$ is 1080000 USD - every day what's being created in new coins.

Of course it's high - way too high. The higher the price of the bitcoin the higher the cost will be to run it.
Bitcoin will keep going down until we meet a point where daily inflation matches with inflow of new money - i would estimate that between 50k$ and 200k$ is realistic of new money for a day (every day - every 24 hours). I hate to spell it out but this would mean sub 100$ coins in case my estimate of new money per day is correct.
Right now we need to burn 1 million USD every 24 hours only to hold this price. I don't know what the real demand is - so could be 1 million every day new money comes in, i don't know. But these are the numbers ...

Solution is a coin with lower inflation. Something like 0,5% to 3% per year inflation would be reasonable not 8% to 12% like bitcoin because inflation needs to be paid every day - constantly. New coins created equals cost of running the network. So less dilution of coinsupply with new coins means less costs to run the network.

A coin with less than 1% inflation in a year can really rally and STAY UP! Bitcoin can rally but NOT STAY UP!

i wouldn't want to compare to cost of fiat-system ... that's an entirely different game.

Less inflation also means less volatility for that matter and better properties in preserving value. Crypto could be used to store value theoretically but 5%+ inflation isn't particularly good properties for a store of value.

All this calculations doesn't include the rampant shortselling which adds on top of it...