Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare.

[BoardGameCoin]

Cant wait for next years snub!     Im excited...

After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique..

I have all the information I need..  Cheers..

teflone: is this sarcastic or not? tone doesn't transfer well on the internetz.

[Mike Jones]

Cant wait for next years snub!     Im excited...

After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique..

I have all the information I need..  Cheers..

teflone: is this sarcastic or not? tone doesn't transfer well on the internetz.

He's upset.

[notme]

Cant wait for next years snub!     Im excited...

After this I will be sure to invest all my money with all of you guys and your businesses, your truly a stand up crowd, and Im glad you ultimately showed your social attitudes to people outside your little clique..

I have all the information I need..  Cheers..

teflone: is this sarcastic or not? tone doesn't transfer well on the internetz.

Why would he seriously be excited to be snubbed?

Hint: yes, it's sarcastic

[Shadow383]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

[finkleshnorts]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK.

[notme]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

I'm affiliated with a pass through and I did not meet him in Vegas.

Does that help?

[BoardGameCoin]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK.

really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not...

[finkleshnorts]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK.

really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not...

Not trying to be rude, sorry.

But it seems like it's only a relevant question if everyone who says they saw him are actually in a massive conspiracy, and Pirate never showed. Which is not the case.

[BoardGameCoin]

More relevant is who he showed to and what kind of environment it was. Conmen are masters at managing their environment, and it seems like he excluded a person (teflone) who wasn't even particularly antagonistic. I'm not arguing that you or giga/etc didn't see pirate in Vegas, I'm just trying to understand if any new information was actually gained. Right now, it seems no.

edit: also, I fail to see how you mentioning a girlfriend being present is at all relevant...

[Shadow383]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK.

really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not...

I think there is a list of everyone that was there up in the thread.  Do you trust any of them?  One of the guys brought his girlfriend with him.  I talked to her a bit.  She was very level headed and very intelligent.  Would you trust her?

It's a very simple question:

"Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?"

Right now I'm forced to assume that the answer is no.

More relevant is who he showed to and what kind of environment it was. Conmen are masters at managing their environment, and it seems like he excluded a person (teflone) who wasn't even particularly antagonistic. I'm not arguing that you or giga/etc didn't see pirate in Vegas, I'm just trying to understand if any new information was actually gained. Right now, it seems no.

edit: also, I fail to see how you mentioning a girlfriend being present is at all relevant...

Also this.
At the end of the day, this guy is handling millions of dollars of other people's money.
I don't see why there should be an issue with a little transparency if everything's on the level.

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

Cmon dude, he was there. This isn't Oliver Stone's JFK.

really honest bob? It seems a relevant question, regardless of whether he was there or not...

Not trying to be rude, sorry.

But it seems like it's only a relevant question if everyone who says they saw him are actually in a massive conspiracy, and Pirate never showed. Which is not the case.

I was looking at it more along the lines of "Did he show his face to anyone who isn't directly involved and profiting from the spread of his scheme?"

[Shadow383]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

I will corroborate the claims of GigaVPS, Burt, etc., that they met me, and transitively, I met a person who may be Pirate and met the reasonable standards of identification of the person most commonly associated with that forum username.  I do not manage a pass-through.

Sweet.
Thankyou for going some way towards answering my question rather than attacking me for practising due diligence 
Well that's something I guess.

Truth is, I'd love to get rates of >5% weekly on my coins, but I have a long-standing policy that if I'm going to give someone serious cash (Let's say, more than a week's pay) then I need enough information that I can either sue them if it all goes wrong or head over to their house with a cricket bat 

[smoothie]

Howdy,

I'll be in Las Vegas July 27th through July 29th with some of the biggest names in Bitcoin.  If you're in the area drop by and we can all chat.  Contact me for details if you're interested.

P.S. Private security will be present so no fishy business.

-pirate

Translation: "I am attempting to show that I am credible by using the biggest names in bitcoin to get people to trust me with their bitcoins."

[finkleshnorts]

Sweet.
Thankyou for going some way towards answering my question rather than attacking me for practising due diligence 
Well that's something I guess.

Truth is, I'd love to get rates of >5% weekly on my coins, but I have a long-standing policy that if I'm going to give someone serious cash (Let's say, more than a week's pay) then I need enough information that I can either sue them if it all goes wrong or head over to their house with a cricket bat 

While neither of those remedies would work in this case, if I were to offer a PPT or subaccounts, the rates would be much, much lower than those offered by other PPTs.  I would only offer insured deposits, which would necessarily incur costs that would have to be taken from the returns.  Competing with PPTs offering 7% (so a rising tide lifts all boats) would not be possible.  With a tiny bit of actuarial math and market analysis, I'd probably offer terms in the 1%-3% range, possibly rising as the 'premium' covers the principal.  Still a fine return, but you can insure yourself just as easily if you're willing to take the "risk" of 7% and pull your initial deposit.

Others have floated the idea of less-exposed debt instruments, and that would be where my interests would lie.

If you fully insure a PPT at 3% a week starting off, I would invest

[LoweryCBS]

Okay, here's a different question:

Has anyone who isn't affiliated with a pirate pass-through of some sort come forward and said that they met him in Vegas?

I will corroborate the claims of GigaVPS, Burt, etc., that they met me, and transitively, I met a person who may be Pirate and met the reasonable standards of identification of the person most commonly associated with that forum username.  I do not manage a pass-through.

The most level-headed and unambiguous statement in this thread thus far. I feel there was some actual effort made to say something useful that can be taken at face value. Thank you, reeses

As Reeses' identity is fairly well known, this statement, and his credibility, carry some substantial weight with me. As such, if he were to offer a 100% insured PPT that offers 3%, I'd be on board.

[Vandroiy]

As Reeses' identity is fairly well known, this statement, and his credibility, carry some substantial weight with me. As such, if he were to offer a 100% insured PPT that offers 3%, I'd be on board.

At least wait until there has been a delay-free payment from BS&T again. For all I can see, this time all interest payments are delayed, as in still missing.

All I can think of when I read reeses is the quote "I will crap in your face and then describe unto you the ways to clean my fundament". I see he deleted it along with a whole set of insulting and derailing posts in that bet thread... just like Goat in this. lol -- the "conversation" looks even weirder now, if that's possible.

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

As Reeses' identity is fairly well known, this statement, and his credibility, carry some substantial weight with me. As such, if he were to offer a 100% insured PPT that offers 3%, I'd be on board.

At least wait until there has been a delay-free payment from BS&T again. For all I can see, this time all interest payments are delayed, as in still missing.

All I can think of when I read reeses is the quote "I will crappy in your face and then describe unto you the ways to clean my fundament". I see he deleted it along with a whole set of insulting and derailing posts in that bet thread... just like Goat in this. lol -- the "conversation" looks even weirder now, if that's possible.

Aw, diddums.     

[koin]

And you are still a muckraking asshole.

shoot the messenger!

[bb113]

If they were at defcon the info is in their badge. Ask for proof.

[vokain]

If they were at defcon the info is in their badge. Ask for proof.

+1

[notme]

What is defcon?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=defcon