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January 05, 2015, 06:34:12 PM
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Here's to hoping bitstamp bucks the exchange "oh no our site was hacked. .your burnt" scenario.
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January 05, 2015, 06:34:41 PM
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Twitter blocked by work proxy.. can someone please repost on here?
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January 05, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
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Twitter blocked by work proxy.. can someone please repost on here?

"To restate: the bulk of our bitcoin are in cold storage, and remain completely safe."

There is also:

"Thank you all for your patience, we are working diligently to restore service and hope to have an ETA later today."
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January 05, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
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Twitter blocked by work proxy.. can someone please repost on here?

Yes of course :


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January 05, 2015, 06:52:55 PM
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I love it when people who know nothing about a problem speculate about what it can or cannnot be.
It's funny when it happens on a forum.
It's pathetic when it gets published : http://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/id/102309754

My link is not suspicious...
It's on cnbc dot com
then /id/102309754
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January 05, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
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i think this is the reason behind recent bitcoin price drop
still bitcoin needs a lot of work to be done before most merchants accepts this
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January 05, 2015, 07:06:42 PM
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My link is not suspicious...
It's on cnbc dot com


Yes it is. I suspect it is full of crap Smiley

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January 05, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
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i think this is the reason behind recent bitcoin price drop
still bitcoin needs a lot of work to be done before most merchants accepts this

Usually, the cause precedes the conséquences...


My link is not suspicious...
It's on cnbc dot com


Yes it is. I suspect it is full of crap Smiley

OK, that's true... Cheesy
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January 05, 2015, 07:08:54 PM
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I wanted to get this suggestion to Bitstamp:

If you publish the btc addresses that were in the operational wallet that was compromised, then everyone running a mining rig with a client that has an exclusion list file can avoid providing confirmations to the thief until and unless Bitstamp publishes a solution. Some exclusion lists might also feature the ability to allow exceptions when a transaction spends an output into a specified set of addresses, which would allow Bitstamp to request of all interested miners to allow only those transactions that move the bitcoin from their compromised operational wallet into a new protected address.

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January 05, 2015, 07:12:38 PM
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And this is why bitcoin is dropping. Totally insecure. Can't use it, only store it. Else its susceptible to hackers

FUD. Bitcoin is not bitstamp. Saying Bitcoin is insecure is just ignorant.

No, it's fact. It's extremely insecure at the consumer level.
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January 05, 2015, 07:19:32 PM
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135k address sent 5k in December

https://blockchain.info/tx/9d25b5eaa65de602fe6a11ba9db83f3b1105899b12664f3302a5ccf1cff955d8

here
https://blockchain.info/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew

which sent this today to the 'hack address'
https://blockchain.info/tx/bd1182f6b676c13dfc0ab28097dc43eac43554006854ab785b20b4a6bb307b73

interesting...
or I got something wrong?
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January 05, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
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And this is why bitcoin is dropping. Totally insecure. Can't use it, only store it. Else its susceptible to hackers



i remember when browsing the internet before windows 3.1 was released and we even knew what a graphical web browser was.
i had a hella time trying to bank in that insecure environment let alone try to buy something on the internet.
hell back in 1990's companies actually thought that adding a DSL modem as your ISP was happen thing to do.
it sure beat the slow 14.4k modem dial-ups which were actually more secure than a DSL modem.
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January 05, 2015, 07:48:40 PM
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don't make panics and misinformation

MY ACCOUNT WAS HACKED, BUT THIS ASSHOLE DIDN'T CHANGE THE PASSWORD. I DON'T USED THIS FORUM FOR AGES. YOU COULD SEE IT FROM MY ACTIVITY. I USED THIS FORUM FOR FUN AND TO GET SOME BTC FROM SIGNATURES.. NOW I SEE TERRIBLE POSTS AND CRIMINAL OFFENSE FROM MY ACCOUNT. I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR ALL WHO HARMED FROM THIS LAYER ASSHOLE.. I exported my outbox when he was doing dirty jobs.. OUTBOX HERE FOR DOWNLOAD
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January 05, 2015, 08:07:32 PM
Last edit: January 05, 2015, 08:18:39 PM by spacecakes
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"Bitcoin Protocol is so secure guysh!!"



























"You just can't use a computer attached the internet, your phone, or any other communication device, a online service, online wallet, or any other 3rd party service in which trust is required, always use MULTI-SIG!!! and 2FA, ESCROW, and make your buyer take a picture with a shoe on his head and ID next to his face (only so he can still default on the loan)!" "Bitcoin is the future, hold onto your hats! Moon ahead!"

-Bitcoin proceeds to crash for 1 straight year, bagholders unite-

"It doesn't count till they sell guysh!" "Look at all them weak hands selling" "Pssh noobs, don't understand the market!"

TL:DR, Yes the protocol is secure, its the idiots around bitcoin that have the problem.

So many people's futures are dependent on the next bitcoin bubble, its almost a self fulfilling prophecy.
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January 05, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
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if one plans to steal big from an exchange like stamp, why would he collect all stolen coins in ONE address? it would be much more confusing to use tons of addresses and keep switching the coins around.


edit:
well, guess i was wrong:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-claims-roughly-19000-btc-lost-hot-wallet-hack/
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January 05, 2015, 10:47:57 PM
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https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F33c0uuq.jpg&t=548&c=WaZbS3U4mk6cbg
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January 05, 2015, 10:49:40 PM
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if one plans to steal big from an exchange like stamp, why would he collect all stolen coins in ONE address? it would be much more confusing to use tons of addresses and keep switching the coins around.

 - one or tons of addresses -> it does not matter, it is recorded in blockchain.
 - maybe it is only manipulation  or it is insider job
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January 05, 2015, 10:49:46 PM
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If it was an RNG attack - then it could be used on their cold storage as well as on their hot wallet. If the attacker can predict the private keys - then the fact that these keys are stored on something detached from the internet does not make any difference.
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January 05, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
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Who knows where this statement was made: http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-claims-roughly-19000-btc-lost-hot-wallet-hack/
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January 05, 2015, 10:53:14 PM
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If it was an RNG attack - then it could be used on their cold storage as well as on their hot wallet. If the attacker can predict the private keys - then the fact that these keys are stored on something detached from the internet does not make any difference.

I think the same  , it was not an attack to their how wallet but  a problem with the generation of the various addresses.




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