[ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | Non-Deprecated Thread

[iCEBREAKER]

[iCEBREAKER]

Since the original thread has been "deprecated" I've made a new one.

Here we are allowed to say things besides the cheerleading that Synechist demands on his still-maintained but somehow "deprecated" post.

[S4VV4S]

Possibly hacked account.

Posted the following feedback on my account: "Constantly posts lies about TECSHARE in an effort to have him removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis. Not trustworthy."

TECSHARE isn't on the default trust list. Not sure why this user would be lying about me in this way.

Care to shed some light here?

Nice trust you have there....

I know the trust system is broken but Vod is a respected member here and wouldn't lie about such things....

EDIT: Could you also give more info on what the hell Blocknet is?
Is it a side-chain that holds block-chains? 

[iCEBREAKER]

Possibly hacked account.

Posted the following feedback on my account: "Constantly posts lies about TECSHARE in an effort to have him removed from the default trust list. Honest discussion is one thing, but he just posts BS with absolutely no basis. Not trustworthy."

TECSHARE isn't on the default trust list. Not sure why this user would be lying about me in this way.

Care to shed some light here?

Nice trust you have there....

I know the trust system is broken but Vod is a respected member here and wouldn't lie about such things....

EDIT: Could you also give more info on what the hell Blocknet is?
Is it a side-chain that holds block-chains? 

A "blocknet" is a framework to enable interoperability between blockchains.  It has nothing to do with sidechains (although sidechains may make it obsolete).

Fiat lux:

Hmmm, I would say this is probably not appropriate. He claims that it is a possibly hacked account, however his password was not changed in the last 30 days.

I think that Icebreaker's trust left for Vod is probably a misunderstanding of the entire situation, however he is entitled to his opinion about Vod's left feedback for TECHSHARE.

I think Vod should remove his trust for Icebreaker as this is more of an example of him trying to silence critics.

I would say this is somewhat of an example of leaving trust because of "trust abuse" and anyone who leaves those kinds of reports should not have any of their trust reports relied upon 

My account has not been hacked.

I've been here longer than Vod.

This is clearly an abuse of his default trust, which isn't supposed to be used for petulant tit-for-tat retaliation.

Like I said it is probably not appropiate. If you can provide a signed message from an address from an old unedited post then it would squash any hacking claim and if he wants to remain reputable then he will need to remove the trust. Although I do not think that should be necessary.

I do think this is essentially leaving trust because they are engaging in "trust abuse" and any trust left for this reason makes the person's trust left be unreliable

Vod didn't make the refutable claim that my account was in fact hacked.  He used the slimey, non-refutable "possibly hacked account" wording instead.

Every account on this board is "possibly hacked."  Even if I signed an old address, he could still weasel around that by claiming my private key was also "possibly hacked."

Look at my recent posts; they are written with the same pompous bombast they always have been.   

Vod is just being a dick, not making an honest accusation that he could reasonably believe to be true.

[S4VV4S]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

[infinitechaos]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

The OP here is just trolling the Blocknet project by copying the official thread into his own un-moderated thread.

You may find the official thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0

You may also wish to follow Blocknet on Slack:

http://goo.gl/forms/UkViMl2fKn

And, yes, when the project is completed you will be able to send coin A and have it arrive as coin B.

[S4VV4S]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

The OP here is just trolling the Blocknet project by copying the official thread into his own un-moderated thread.

You may find the official thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0

You may also wish to follow Blocknet on Slack:

http://goo.gl/forms/UkViMl2fKn

And, yes, when the project is completed you will be able to send coin A and have it arrive as coin B.

Thanks bro.
Checking the official thread now 

[synechist]

Please make it clear that this thread is non-official.

I also object to your copying my work for your OP, because it looks like you're trying to impersonate the official thread. I'd appreciate it if you'd remove it.

[iCEBREAKER]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

Blocknet doesn't work with real coins like BTC and LTC.

It's just a way to send ScamCoins and receive ShitCoins.

[Xaltotun]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

Blocknet doesn't work with real coins like BTC and LTC.

It's just a way to send ScamCoins and receive ShitCoins.

No way! You mean a coin under development doesn't have full functionality yet?

[UNO_owner]

This was deleted from the moderated thread, so I thought I'd post it here.

There is simply no question UNITY is the far superior product at this point in time but there is plenty of room for solid competition in the space, so I monitor what is going on here - and if BlockNET ever shows something besides PR of every minor step along the way to a functional release, I might actually buy some.  There is no doubt in my mind that this was designed as a pump and dump scheme that backfired to the detriment of actual investors, but as certain storyteller recently shared with all of us, scam coins can actually turn into real coins on occasion.  If this is one that does, I will be interested in participating.

No doubt in your mind?  What have you based that on?

The fact that SuperNET v1 works and is about to be released (not to mention paying about 7% in dividends already) while BlockNET remains vaporware.

You are incorrect. Perhaps you missed this release.

Prototype P2P protocol enabling communication between nodes on different blockchains: https://github.com/atcsecure/xhub

Get with the program sir. Working code. Open source. Non-vaporware project.
And it was NEVER originally conceived as a pump. It was conceived as a B2B-focussed initiative. Look up Dan's posts. He's publicly stated that when Bobsurplus approached him about a pump, he turned him down and protected the Blocknet from him.

Who do you think you are kidding synechist?  I didn't miss your shiny PR there.  You are so far away from a functional product it is laughable.  There are 100,000 problems yet to solve that could destroy this project permanently at any moment.  As I said, PM me when you have something worthwhile and quit trying to pump the price by putting out a press release about every step forward along the way.

And maybe Dan did "protect" the Blocknet from Bob.  But only because he was already working with Prom to the same ends. 

[S4VV4S]

This was deleted from the moderated thread, so I thought I'd post it here.

There is simply no question UNITY is the far superior product at this point in time but there is plenty of room for solid competition in the space, so I monitor what is going on here - and if BlockNET ever shows something besides PR of every minor step along the way to a functional release, I might actually buy some.  There is no doubt in my mind that this was designed as a pump and dump scheme that backfired to the detriment of actual investors, but as certain storyteller recently shared with all of us, scam coins can actually turn into real coins on occasion.  If this is one that does, I will be interested in participating.

No doubt in your mind?  What have you based that on?

The fact that SuperNET v1 works and is about to be released (not to mention paying about 7% in dividends already) while BlockNET remains vaporware.

You are incorrect. Perhaps you missed this release.

Prototype P2P protocol enabling communication between nodes on different blockchains: https://github.com/atcsecure/xhub

Get with the program sir. Working code. Open source. Non-vaporware project.
And it was NEVER originally conceived as a pump. It was conceived as a B2B-focussed initiative. Look up Dan's posts. He's publicly stated that when Bobsurplus approached him about a pump, he turned him down and protected the Blocknet from him.

Who do you think you are kidding synechist?  I didn't miss your shiny PR there.  You are so far away from a functional product it is laughable.  There are 100,000 problems yet to solve that could destroy this project permanently at any moment.  As I said, PM me when you have something worthwhile and quit trying to pump the price by putting out a press release about every step forward along the way.

And maybe Dan did "protect" the Blocknet from Bob.  But only because he was already working with Prom to the same ends.  

Hmmmm....

This is interesting.....

So the dev team didn't do anything yet?

Have they thought about hiring Chinese devs to do the job?  

Oh, and SuperNet has been in BitNet/VPNCoin for a while now.
Check my sig for official thread  

[iCEBREAKER]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

Blocknet doesn't work with real coins like BTC and LTC.

It's just a way to send ScamCoins and receive ShitCoins.

No way! You mean a coin under development doesn't have full functionality yet?

All (non-abandoned) coins are "under development."  If Blocknet intends to include BTC and LTC, they haven't told anyone.

[sugarboy321]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

Blocknet doesn't work with real coins like BTC and LTC.

It's just a way to send ScamCoins and receive ShitCoins.

No way! You mean a coin under development doesn't have full functionality yet?

All (non-abandoned) coins are "under development."  If Blocknet intends to include BTC and LTC, they haven't told anyone.

Nice trust ratings there Ice

[UNO_owner]

Hmmmm....

This is interesting.....

So the dev team didn't do anything yet?

Have they thought about hiring Chinese devs to do the job?  

Oh, and SuperNet has been in BitNet/VPNCoin for a while now.
Check my sig for official thread  

I never said they haven't done anything.  Obviously they are working towards a release.  Here's an analogy:  Picture the english alphabet.  A-Z.  A is the initial idea, Z is the first release.  BlockNET is on E, but spending time, energy, and effort publicizing every letter they hit a long the way.  All while deleting non-trolling valid criticisms from their fanboy run thread. 

[S4VV4S]

Hmmmm....

This is interesting.....

So the dev team didn't do anything yet?

Have they thought about hiring Chinese devs to do the job?  

Oh, and SuperNet has been in BitNet/VPNCoin for a while now.
Check my sig for official thread  

I never said they haven't done anything.  Obviously they are working towards a release.  Here's an analogy:  Picture the english alphabet.  A-Z.  A is the initial idea, Z is the first release.  BlockNET is on E, but spending time, energy, and effort publicizing every letter they hit a long the way.  All while deleting non-trolling valid criticisms from their fanboy run thread. 

Gotcha! 

[iCEBREAKER]

OK, so is inter-coin transactions possible with this?

I mean, can I use my LTC wallet to sent LTC yet arrive as BTC to the receiver?

Blocknet doesn't work with real coins like BTC and LTC.

It's just a way to send ScamCoins and receive ShitCoins.

No way! You mean a coin under development doesn't have full functionality yet?

All (non-abandoned) coins are "under development."  If Blocknet intends to include BTC and LTC, they haven't told anyone.

Nice trust ratings there Ice

Thanks for your concern.  Vod apologized to me for abusing his default trust status and removed the negative feedback.

Meanwhile, XC continues its death spiral on all of $1k volume.   

[sugarboy321]

Oh yeah, here is Supernets SLACK account.

SuperNET Slack log (open channels): http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs/
Get a SuperNET Slack invite by sending a mail to info@supernet.org or a PM to noashh or jl777.

To paraphrase icebreakers own words anyone any team who uses slack are a bunch of cultist cheerleaders.

And let me remind you that this is a Supernet and Blocknet thread. It is not a XC thread.

I do not need to remind you since you are the one who made it Icebreaker.

[iCEBREAKER]

Oh yeah, here is Supernets SLACK account.

SuperNET Slack log (open channels): http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs/
Get a SuperNET Slack invite by sending a mail to info@supernet.org or a PM to noashh or jl777.

To paraphrase icebreakers own words anyone any team who uses slack are a bunch of cultist cheerleaders.

No more comments about my trust level?   

Slack is fine as an appendix to this forum.

What is suspicious is refusing to participate here, except to delete non-cheerleading comments in a supposedly "deprecated" [ANN].

[sugarboy321]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inacX37Ix8g&feature=youtu.be

Blocknet starts at 12:35.

Boy, these guys are working hard on this so called scam.

[sugarboy321]

http://newsbtc.com/2015/01/06/xcurrency-release-mobile-app-cross-block-chain-messaging/

[sugarboy321]

http://bitcoinist.net/interview-dan-metcalf-lead-developer-blocknet/

[Hollowman338]

Is this like the poor man's SuperNET or something?

[iCEBREAKER]

Is this like the poor man's SuperNET or something?

If you invested in XC or Blocknet, you are now a poor man.

But no, this is more like the cheap version of Paycoin.

[brooklynbtc]

Is this like the poor man's SuperNET or something?

If you invested in XC or Blocknet, you are now a poor man.

But no, this is more like the cheap version of Paycoin.

cheaper than XPY? RUN!

[gagalady]

Is this like the poor man's SuperNET or something?

If you invested in XC or Blocknet, you are now a poor man.

But no, this is more like the cheap version of Paycoin.

cheaper than XPY? RUN!

When will it pump ??

[digit]

Is this like the poor man's SuperNET or something?

If you invested in XC or Blocknet, you are now a poor man.

But no, this is more like the cheap version of Paycoin.

cheaper than XPY? RUN!

When will it pump ??

let this scam die, devs have swindled enough btc out of people with this and the scamcoins associated with it 

[iCEBREAKER]

Is this like the poor man's SuperNET or something?

If you invested in XC or Blocknet, you are now a poor man.

But no, this is more like the cheap version of Paycoin.

cheaper than XPY? RUN!

When will it pump ??

Six months ago.   

[sugarboy321]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112782/blocknet-is-like-the-mega-man-of-altcoins

[sugarboy321]

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/18830/bitcoin-alternative-fibrecoin-launches-fibrelock-anonymous-zerotrust-secure-operating-system-fibre-os/

[sugarboy321]

http://www.satoshis.guru/home/coin-info/blocknet/

[sugarboy321]

http://newsbtc.com/2015/01/06/xcurrency-release-mobile-app-cross-block-chain-messaging/

[iCEBREAKER]

How's the decentralized exchange coming along?

Anyone know the status of the decentralized exchange?

It's still vaporware.

Too bad it's not open source, or we could simply check the github to see the status, and maybe even help code/debug/test.

Oh well.   

It is open source. Everything is with the Blocknet.

I'm away and don't have the link, but search for it and see if you can find it.

And now try avoid loading your posts with negative terms like "vaporware" and rhetorical phrases like "too bad it's...". It makes you come across like a troll.

So now you're Officer Tone of the Rhetoric Police's Happiness Patrol, here to scold me for insufficient enthusiasm?   

You sure spend a lot of time deleting posts and responding to the "deprecated" thread.

And search is disabled.

[sugarboy321]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113644/governance-moves-forward-via-bitnation-blocknet-horizon-partnership

[iCEBREAKER]

silent again

There is activity daily on slack.  Why don't you join?

I think he was talking about the market:

Blocknet volume = $16
XC volume =  $258

After the March 6 pump, both are dead again.

I expect more exchanges to de-list these zombie coins soon.

Don't worry, you can trade amongst yourselves OTC on slack!   

[sugarboy321]

http://themerkle.com/news/harnassing-blockchain-technology-create-diy-governance-2-0/

[sugarboy321]

https://twitter.com/The_Blocknet/status/588094975226830848

[sugarboy321]

Decentralized exchange   

http://cryptonewsday.com/blocknet-releases-decentralized-exchange-alpha-forms-inter-blockchain-think-tank/

[sugarboy321]

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/blocknet-internet-blockchains-launches-think-tank/

[illodin]

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/blocknet-internet-blockchains-launches-think-tank/

A think-tank that is trying to figure out how to generate value to the ITO investors should've been scheduled before the ITO? Better late than never I suppose.

[sugarboy321]

https://plus.google.com/events/ce0c82vkb50fm2fp97m6unnek0k

[sugarboy321]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114228/blocknet-adding-ethereum-to-suite-of-supported-currencies

[digit]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114228/blocknet-adding-ethereum-to-suite-of-supported-currencies

blocknet may have overreached making this claim, highly unlikely ethereum would associate itself with blocknet scam if they have looked into its history.  hopefully they notice and disassociate themselves from it before any damage is done to the Ethereum brand. 

[Levole11]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114228/blocknet-adding-ethereum-to-suite-of-supported-currencies

blocknet may have overreached making this claim, highly unlikely ethereum would associate itself with blocknet scam if they have looked into its history.  hopefully they notice and disassociate themselves from it before any damage is done to the Ethereum brand.  

Yeah, why dont you go tell'em?.. iam sure they are a bunch of retards who dont do their research themselves..

[digit]

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114228/blocknet-adding-ethereum-to-suite-of-supported-currencies

blocknet may have overreached making this claim, highly unlikely ethereum would associate itself with blocknet scam if they have looked into its history.  hopefully they notice and disassociate themselves from it before any damage is done to the Ethereum brand.  

Yeah, why dont you go tell'em?.. iam sure they are a bunch of retards who dont do their research themselves..

looks like yet another marketing attempt from blocknet to ride ethereum name, it would be more believable if their was something official from the ethereum side like here https://blog.ethereum.org/
as it is its just more attempts to pump blocknet coin with misleading articles.  :\

anyway article was updated form earlier, its an Etherium devgrant that the blocknet devs applied for and is funding(aka free money) for any project that applies to etherium and manages to pass itself off as something for public benefit and provide some value to etherium core.  Doesnt say they won it yet so even if they do what do they need the extra money for? Already suckered a huge amount of BTC from their ICO, why would it be necessary to apply for more funding?

[sugarboy321]

Unlike the paid shrills on BTCtalk, the Ethereum group can actually read code. When Ethereum releases the statement then all of you supernet fanboys will be coming out of the woodwork to cry foul.

[mav137]

As far as the facts go; the funds are accounted for, there is a github with code, there is a functional cross blockchain bridge

Yes, this scene lives and eats of the image of coins, that's pretty much 90% of the game.. at least until the tech proves it's validity. Until then it's mostly promises on technology that is going to be build. Ask yourself, are you truly a crypto believer? Or does you personal financial interest moves your actions?
We can ask ourselves if we are truly a community if all we do is invest, hype and speculate. At least people producing code are doing something real!
Supporting a project financially means one should believe it may actually make a difference in the real world. It means being part of a supportive community and putting in your own energy and skills in order to help build those solutions.

Asking critical questions, sure! Developers and teammembers should stay sharp on their goals and promises.
Many projects have moved to other platforms because of the nature of these boards have been totally destructive.
These boards are for speculators, not for community members.

You're welcome to join the blocknet Slack if you are interested in a constructive talk.
And yes, very critical questions are asked by community members about how we deal with PR

[iCEBREAKER]

Unlike the paid shrills on BTCtalk, the Ethereum group can actually read code. When Ethereum releases the statement then all of you supernet fanboys will be coming out of the woodwork to cry foul.

I heard Dash is joining SuperNET.

This could lead to some kind of trippy scam-ception paradox, where jl777 has to travel back in time to scam Duffield out of his insta-pre-mine.   

[iCEBREAKER]

Why BLOCK price has fallen so much recently?

Not a clue I'm afraid.

Personally it looks rather nuts to me. Sell before the decentralised exchange is released? Crazy.

At least it's actually a very low volume. Perhaps it's just a couple of people who need the BTC or something.

I think it probably has something to do with all your links dying on the main post:

Now that's what I call deprecated stealth mode.

[illodin]

Unlike the paid shrills on BTCtalk, the Ethereum group can actually read code. When Ethereum releases the statement then all of you supernet fanboys will be coming out of the woodwork to cry foul.

Is there a link to this statement yet?

[iCEBREAKER]

Why BLOCK price has fallen so much recently?

Probably people finally figuring out what BLOCK is really worth, and selling before everybody else figures it out.

BLOCK will be the first asset delisted from a decentralized exchange.

[iCEBREAKER]

Both the Blocknet's block explorers' hosting services have expired. Not cool!

More like "Not surprised!"

The block explorers aren't deprecated.  They are just in Stealth Mode^®.

If you want to know where the real ones are, you must join the Slack.

[iCEBREAKER]

Blocknet is backed with several high reputed devs. That`s why I entered in this token recently. It`s true that my favorite coin - XST - participates only technically in the this tech, but the tech itself is a new step forward in crypto universe. I believe in BLOCK.

Yeah i believed in XC too and the project seems to be now officially dead. As the same dev was responsible for this i wouldn't count on BLOCK to get finished in near future. Hopefully they don't change direction again and start with a new project and leave BLOCK like they left XC

XC is not dead.

The Blocknet is very much alive.

Please refrain from posting without supplying any kind of evidence.

//

Re. news, yes we have some. Publicity materials are ready too, but there's no release date as yet. Stay tuned. Join Slack too.

What nonsense.  You hide (oh sorry, I mean stay in "stealth mode") in your self-moderated thread, where you "ban" anyone who fails to cheer and clap for your abandonware scam.

Your extraordinary claim that BlockScam is alive requires extraordinary evidence, yet you provide nothing except hand-waving excuses and mysterious teaser references to ever-receding doors behind doors.

Too bad your XC/Blocknet con isn't as successful as the Dash scam.  Maybe you should add Masternodes!   

[iCEBREAKER]

It's amazing that Blocknet's supposedly "deprecated" thread is so assiduously moderated to ensure only cheerleading is allowed and scam warnings are removed.

I cannot announce anything at this stage but I expect to be able to very soon.

Finally, BLOCK's price is tied intrinsically to the use of the DX. It's fundamentally not dependent on speculators on Polo. While I value Polo as a gateway, it's not part of our business model.

End of statement.

Two things I love in this "statement."

1.  Says "I cannot announce anything" then immediately proceeds to announce an upcoming announcement "very soon."   

2.  The sniffy put down of "speculators" who were dumb enough to become bagholding investors in Dan's failed "business model."

To think XC was once a rival for dash is terrible when you view the MC now. The XC holders (of which i have a tiny amount of) must feel gross disappointment at this stage.

ATCsecure needs to stop being scared of this board just because he got a hard time before. Man up and get back here and regroup you've stuck around long enough to prove it was not a total scam so come back on the board and get discussion and interest picking up here.

What do cockroaches do when you shine a light on them?  That's right, they scurry away to hide in some dark place.

That's why this scam hides in places where people can't ask important questions, nor express dissenting, ie non-cheerleading, opinions.

Polo should have never listed the XC and Blocknet scams to begin with.  Doing so brings the exchange additional technical risk from bad code and legal risk from facilitating the scam(s).

[iCEBREAKER]

QFT in case of censorship:

That horse has been beaten to death already.
Most funds where in alt coins that lost value to the market. Expenses has been accounted for and critiqued/scrutinized by the community. The software has been delivered and all extra expenses has been covered personally by AtcSecure.

This.  

thats no explaination. if it was put into alts why wasn't it stated here? http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Record_of_Accounts - this feels like back in the xc days, where it was promised to keep expenses of the premine public and then atcsecure "forgot" about it.
this is no FUD at all. if you invest in something you should inform yourself, and doing the same thing two times, promise A and do B is a showstopper. btw XC didn't loose value because of mintpal. It lost value because development stopped and promissed stuff was never delivered

[Coin_trader]

it's almost a year for this thread, gonna say, Happy anniversary, may the year ahead gives more progress for this project.