Request to have michaeladair removed from BadBears trust list

[DiamondCardz]

In my honest opinion...Quickseller should drop the negative trust.

Just my BTC0.02.

I'd agree with you if he just made it into neutral, but I don't think it should disappear.

That's what I meant. But a negative isn't really warranted.

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[michaeladair]

In my honest opinion...Quickseller should drop the negative trust.

Just my BTC0.02.

I'd agree with you if he just made it into neutral, but I don't think it should disappear.

That's what I meant. But a negative isn't really warranted.

Okay, well thanks for your support... Even though I don't believe he'll change it.

"You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer."
I didn't scam, so I guess that's a point that can be made.

"Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score."
I guess the trust he sent is more like a neutral comment...

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

In my honest opinion...Quickseller should drop the negative trust.

Just my BTC0.02.

I'd agree with you if he just made it into neutral, but I don't think it should disappear.

That's what I meant. But a negative isn't really warranted.

Okay, well thanks for your support... Even though I don't believe he'll change it.

"You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer."
I didn't scam, so I guess that's a point that can be made.

"Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score."
I guess the trust he sent is more like a neutral comment...

[Quickseller]

Where the hell do you get off saying that I hack accounts now, and why would I hack redsnows account... I admire him as an escrow even though he messed up a little.

Both you and Spodermen were actively pushing/promoting bitcoin-stocks. This makes me believe that you are either one and the same or are partners with him. It is confirmed that Spodermen was selling hacked accounts.

I do not know for sure that was your rationale behind blackmailing me into removing my trust left for Redsn0w, however I am fairly confident that it was more then "he is your friend"

If you were to hack his account you would likely use it the same way every other recently hacked account was used for - to try to scam - since it has a decent amount of trust it probably could get a pretty large take

I am Spodermen, thought I should let you know, and I want to express I didn't sell the account. I was reselling the default trust account you were selling.

Stop spreading bullshit because your so called proof meant jack shit.

You fail as "scam detector" with false evidence, i'm going to be working my ass off to prove all of your cases wrong, and when I do i'll be putting you to shame in front of this whole section.

I am glad that I am able to piss off scammers. I am not sure why you aren't posting from your Spodermen account, however you admitting to be one and the same only confirms that you are either the same as michaledair or are partners with him as you both were pushing bitcoin-stocks very hard.

[michaeladair]

Where the hell do you get off saying that I hack accounts now, and why would I hack redsnows account... I admire him as an escrow even though he messed up a little.

Both you and Spodermen were actively pushing/promoting bitcoin-stocks. This makes me believe that you are either one and the same or are partners with him. It is confirmed that Spodermen was selling hacked accounts.

I do not know for sure that was your rationale behind blackmailing me into removing my trust left for Redsn0w, however I am fairly confident that it was more then "he is your friend"

If you were to hack his account you would likely use it the same way every other recently hacked account was used for - to try to scam - since it has a decent amount of trust it probably could get a pretty large take

I am Spodermen, thought I should let you know, and I want to express I didn't sell the account. I was reselling the default trust account you were selling.

Stop spreading bullshit because your so called proof meant jack shit.

You fail as "scam detector" with false evidence, i'm going to be working my ass off to prove all of your cases wrong, and when I do i'll be putting you to shame in front of this whole section.

I am glad that I am able to piss off scammers. I am not sure why you aren't posting from your Spodermen account, however you admitting to be one and the same only confirms that you are either the same as michaledair or are partners with him as you both were pushing bitcoin-stocks very hard.

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

[Quickseller]

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

That person is a long time known scammer and a lier. There is noting he could say that could help you.

[michaeladair]

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

That person is a long time known scammer and a lier. There is noting he could say that could help you.

I don't care if he can help me, I'm just saying that I'm not in cahoots with any of those scammers.

[Quickseller]

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

That person is a long time known scammer and a lier. There is noting he could say that could help you.

I don't care if he can help me, I'm just saying that I'm not in cahoots with any of those scammers.

His MO is even the same as yours. If you look at the feedback dooglas gave him you will see that he blackmailed dooglas into removing his negative trust or he would leave a negative trust on dooglas saying 1000 BTC was risked.

[michaeladair]

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

That person is a long time known scammer and a lier. There is noting he could say that could help you.

I don't care if he can help me, I'm just saying that I'm not in cahoots with any of those scammers.

His MO is even the same as yours. If you look at the feedback dooglas gave him you will see that he blackmailed dooglas into removing his negative trust or he would leave a negative trust on dooglas saying 1000 BTC was risked.

I never gave you negative trust with any value to it + Exortionist does not mean i scam. So that shouldnt be red trust (Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.).

Also, there is no hard evidence that I am aligned with those accounts or the bitcoinstocks scam.

No offense but your claims are empty and you have no proof that I am related to any of those claimed alts or that I work with them.
I tried playing fair and being nice with you, so as to avoid these accusations. I even consented to an IP check, but you still go on and blame me.

[Quickseller]

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

That person is a long time known scammer and a lier. There is noting he could say that could help you.

I don't care if he can help me, I'm just saying that I'm not in cahoots with any of those scammers.

His MO is even the same as yours. If you look at the feedback dooglas gave him you will see that he blackmailed dooglas into removing his negative trust or he would leave a negative trust on dooglas saying 1000 BTC was risked.

I never gave you negative trust with any value to it + Exortionist does not mean i scam. So that shouldnt be red trust (Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.).

Also, there is no hard evidence that I am aligned with those accounts or the bitcoinstocks scam.

(n)the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

In trying to extort me into not giving negative trust to the ponzi scams you were trying to scam. When I leave negative trust on someone's account it takes away value from their account. By trying to get me to stop giving negative trust to those scams you were essentially trying to get me to give value to the accounts that they do not deserve. This is important because you were planning on starting a ponzi scam under your own name and did not want to get negative trust when you started it (not to mention the fact that you are likely behind some of the other ponzi scams out there that created new accounts based on how hard you were pushing several of them). This is probably why both you are moreia have been taking out so many loans - because you want to build up trust so people will quickly "invest" in your scam.

There is evidence that you are partners with the other accounts and the bitcoin-stocks scam as outlined above. Like I said you were pushing the bitcoin-stocks scam very hard, and were pushing another one very hard (I forget which one) that also ran away with investor money. A very highly trusted and respected member of the community even said

It's possible, its difficult to say whether he's simply an idiot or apart of that ring of ponzis though....

The reason I put the trust back on to reflect my belief that you are associated with bitcoin-stocks et el is because you opened a new loan request ~18 hours after you canceled your previous one when I stated I still strongly believe you are associated with them. You also happened to cancel your loan request minutes after you said it was still needed. This makes me believe that you were trying to hide the fact that I believe you are part of the ring of scammers

[michaeladair]

If I was the same or even in cahoots with this guy then don't you think I would have gotten him to help me a lot earlier?

That person is a long time known scammer and a lier. There is noting he could say that could help you.

I don't care if he can help me, I'm just saying that I'm not in cahoots with any of those scammers.

His MO is even the same as yours. If you look at the feedback dooglas gave him you will see that he blackmailed dooglas into removing his negative trust or he would leave a negative trust on dooglas saying 1000 BTC was risked.

I never gave you negative trust with any value to it + Exortionist does not mean i scam. So that shouldnt be red trust (Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.).

Also, there is no hard evidence that I am aligned with those accounts or the bitcoinstocks scam.

(n)the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

In trying to extort me into not giving negative trust to the ponzi scams you were trying to scam. When I leave negative trust on someone's account it takes away value from their account. By trying to get me to stop giving negative trust to those scams you were essentially trying to get me to give value to the accounts that they do not deserve. This is important because you were planning on starting a ponzi scam under your own name and did not want to get negative trust when you started it (not to mention the fact that you are likely behind some of the other ponzi scams out there that created new accounts based on how hard you were pushing several of them). This is probably why both you are moreia have been taking out so many loans - because you want to build up trust so people will quickly "invest" in your scam.

There is evidence that you are partners with the other accounts and the bitcoin-stocks scam as outlined above. Like I said you were pushing the bitcoin-stocks scam very hard, and were pushing another one very hard (I forget which one) that also ran away with investor money. A very highly trusted and respected member of the community even said

It's possible, its difficult to say whether he's simply an idiot or apart of that ring of ponzis though....

The reason I put the trust back on to reflect my belief that you are associated with bitcoin-stocks et el is because you opened a new loan request ~18 hours after you canceled your previous one when I stated I still strongly believe you are associated with them. You also happened to cancel your loan request minutes after you said it was still needed. This makes me believe that you were trying to hide the fact that I believe you are part of the ring of scammers

I did not know that they were going to scam in the end, I didn't see anything wrong in what they were doing at the time because they were obviously paying back. I too got hurt in there scam and won't be making all my money back. You have no hard evidence that I was a part of any of those scams because, it'd be impossible to gather. Being that I was never a part of them...

I started a new loan request because I plan on buying an alt coin that I noticed will go up soon, I do this activity a lot. I always have money in my pocket in order to pay back the loan if things go wrong.

FYI: I removed the past loan request because I didn't need it, I don't need any more of a reason other than that.

[Quickseller]

I did not know that they were going to scam in the end, I didn't see anything wrong in what they were doing at the time because they were obviously paying back. I too got hurt in there scam and won't be making all my money back. You have no hard evidence that I was a part of any of those scams because, it'd be impossible to gather. Being that I was never a part of them...

Like you said it would be impossible to gather hard evidence that you were part of the scam. However I believe the evidence that I have is conclusive enough for me to reasonably believe that you are one and the same. I included reference links so anyone looking at you trust can look at the evidence and judge for themselves.

I started a new loan request because I plan on buying an alt coin that I noticed will go up soon, I do this activity a lot. I always have money in my pocket in order to pay back the loan if things go wrong.

If you really have money in your pocket then you should use that instead of borrowing bitcoin. You will save a lot on interest.


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[michaeladair]

Like you said it would be impossible to gather hard evidence that you were part of the scam. However I believe the evidence that I have is conclusive enough for me to reasonably believe that you are one and the same. I included reference links so anyone looking at you trust can look at the evidence and judge for themselves.

Why not just make it neutral trust then, if you do that then I'll just post under every loan request that my Trust list includes a scam accusation and that I am an extortionist. If you want people to judge the trust themselves then this will be best. Because, usually when people look at accounts and see red trust they just walk over it.

If you really have money in your pocket then you should use that instead of borrowing bitcoin. You will save a lot on interest.

I only take loans for higher risk investments, and only at a fraction of what I can actually handle to lose. This method works well for me and I don't really care if I save on interest, it's what I do.

[Quickseller]

Like you said it would be impossible to gather hard evidence that you were part of the scam. However I believe the evidence that I have is conclusive enough for me to reasonably believe that you are one and the same. I included reference links so anyone looking at you trust can look at the evidence and judge for themselves.

Why not just make it neutral trust then, if you do that then I'll just post under every loan request that my Trust list includes a scam accusation and that I am an extortionist. If you want people to judge the trust themselves then this will be best. Because, usually when people look at accounts and see red trust they just walk over it.

1 - because it is not appropriate to be neutral. I do highly believe that you are a scammer. 2 - even if I changed it to neutral then the extortionist rating would remain as negative so your trust score would remain the same.

If you really have money in your pocket then you should use that instead of borrowing bitcoin. You will save a lot on interest.

I only take loans for higher risk investments, and only at a fraction of what I can actually handle to lose. This method works well for me and I don't really care if I save on interest, it's what I do.

If you are taking high risk investments then chances are, over time you are going to lose. Like I said you would be better off outright buying bitcoin, it would improve your ROI

[michaeladair]

I'm not a scammer, and I haven't been since day one where I posted my free to use bot for peerbet.
I don't know what else I can tell you to get through to you that I have nothing to do with those scams.

[Quickseller]

I'm not a scammer, and I haven't been since day one where I posted my free to use bot for peerbet.
I don't know what else I can tell you to get through to you that I have nothing to do with those scams.

It was mentioned before that you could produce PM's between yourself and the bitcoin-stocks guy showing actual communication

[michaeladair]

I'm not a scammer, and I haven't been since day one where I posted my free to use bot for peerbet.
I don't know what else I can tell you to get through to you that I have nothing to do with those scams.

It was mentioned before that you could produce PM's between yourself and the bitcoin-stocks guy showing actual communication

I already told you before that those were deleted because I was afraid any link at all to those accounts would make it seem like I had the ability to persuade him. I mean, dude... even though Badbear wouldn't pull through with an IP test, you can still see that I wouldn't consent to it had I actually been an alt to those accounts.

[Quickseller]

I'm not a scammer, and I haven't been since day one where I posted my free to use bot for peerbet.
I don't know what else I can tell you to get through to you that I have nothing to do with those scams.

It was mentioned before that you could produce PM's between yourself and the bitcoin-stocks guy showing actual communication

I already told you before that those were deleted because I was afraid any link at all to those accounts would make it seem like I had the ability to persuade him. I mean, dude... even though Badbear wouldn't pull through with an IP test, you can still see that I wouldn't consent to it had I actually been an alt to those accounts.

You left up the posts that connected you to him which gives more evidence that you are connected then your PM's (aka private messages). I don't see how having any PM's in your inbox would connect you to them anyway.

You would consent to an IP check because you logged in from different computers that connected to the forum via different VPNs/IP addresses it really wouldn't be hard to do. Like I said before it is more likely that you are partners with them, not the same person.

I don't want to put words in BadBears mouth however I would say that he believes the evidence shows you are associated with them.

[michaeladair]

I'm not a scammer, and I haven't been since day one where I posted my free to use bot for peerbet.
I don't know what else I can tell you to get through to you that I have nothing to do with those scams.

It was mentioned before that you could produce PM's between yourself and the bitcoin-stocks guy showing actual communication

I already told you before that those were deleted because I was afraid any link at all to those accounts would make it seem like I had the ability to persuade him. I mean, dude... even though Badbear wouldn't pull through with an IP test, you can still see that I wouldn't consent to it had I actually been an alt to those accounts.

You left up the posts that connected you to him which gives more evidence that you are connected then your PM's (aka private messages). I don't see how having any PM's in your inbox would connect you to them anyway.

You would consent to an IP check because you logged in from different computers that connected to the forum via different VPNs/IP addresses it really wouldn't be hard to do. Like I said before it is more likely that you are partners with them, not the same person.

I don't want to put words in BadBears mouth however I would say that he believes the evidence shows you are associated with them.

I could see how anyone would believe the evidence that you put against me because there is nothing that I have to show you that I am not connected to him. It's as simple as that.

Theoretically, if you were to support some random exchange, say that you trade there all the time and suggest to many people to use it. It's a pretty great exchange. Then one day, boom... all goes to hell, the exchange runs with the money. You find yourself trapped in the same situation that I am in, with some ass on your back about you being in cahoots with them. You're fucked, you have no evidence proving that you aren't with them and all the opposition has is a bunch of posts of you supporting them because you utilized their services.

[Quickseller]

I'm not a scammer, and I haven't been since day one where I posted my free to use bot for peerbet.
I don't know what else I can tell you to get through to you that I have nothing to do with those scams.

It was mentioned before that you could produce PM's between yourself and the bitcoin-stocks guy showing actual communication

I already told you before that those were deleted because I was afraid any link at all to those accounts would make it seem like I had the ability to persuade him. I mean, dude... even though Badbear wouldn't pull through with an IP test, you can still see that I wouldn't consent to it had I actually been an alt to those accounts.

You left up the posts that connected you to him which gives more evidence that you are connected then your PM's (aka private messages). I don't see how having any PM's in your inbox would connect you to them anyway.

You would consent to an IP check because you logged in from different computers that connected to the forum via different VPNs/IP addresses it really wouldn't be hard to do. Like I said before it is more likely that you are partners with them, not the same person.

I don't want to put words in BadBears mouth however I would say that he believes the evidence shows you are associated with them.

I could see how anyone would believe the evidence that you put against me because there is nothing that I have to show you that I am not connected to him. It's as simple as that.

Theoretically, if you were to support some random exchange, say that you trade there all the time and suggest to many people to use it. It's a pretty great exchange. Then one day, boom... all goes to hell, the exchange runs with the money. You find yourself trapped in the same situation that I am in, with some ass on your back about you being in cahoots with them. You're fucked, you have no evidence proving that you aren't with them and all the opposition has is a bunch of posts of you supporting them because you utilized their services.

I already told you how you could prove you are not connected to him but you gave a very flimsy explanation as to why you cannot.

As mentioned above you were staking your reputation by supporting that scam

You did a lot more then advertise that you used their services. You were answering questions and deflecting fears that they were not a scam.