I found out some very bad news in the family

[adamstgBit]

http://www.naturalnews.com/031616_vaccines_Japan.html

[Gareth Nelson]

fine two can play at this game

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/05/19/us-government-concedes-hep-b-vaccine-causes-systemic-lupus-erythematosus.aspx

Vaccines have side effects in a minority of patients - that's true. (Autism isn't one of them by the way)

The diseases they prevent have some rather nastier effects which are far more deadly in a majority of patients.


Do the maths.

[adamstgBit]

You could give a bunch of links - would they be good science or just more conspiracy theories about vaccines?

theirs doctors that actually think about it and come to the conclusion that its not good

and their are some doctors that read books and pass a test

[organofcorti]

Cut that shit out, adamstgBit.


Pekv2 already made it clear he doesn't want off-topic replies and people arguing about science (or in your case, lack thereof) in this thread. Just leave it alone, OK?

[pekv2]

Cut that shit out, adamstgBit.


Pekv2 already made it clear he doesn't want off-topic replies and people arguing about science (or in your case, lack thereof) in this thread. Just leave it alone, OK?

mhmm. +1

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@adamstgBit
If you like to talk about vaccines, create a new thread about vaccines, we'll all chip in over there. Ty.

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On another note, I just got back from the hospital, my pops is doing much better, legs are still swollen and so is his belly, but his breathing is much better than it was.

As for my nephew, no new news on him, his brother just left yesterday for a 25 day ride on the rig. Which is cool, it gets him out for a while, my pops just upgraded his celly n all a few days ago, he was ecstatic to go, as it is a trip around the U.S.A. That gives my sister time alone with my other nephew, we'll see how it all goes.

[pekv2]

Well, today, in two hours, they are gonna perform an angiogram up through his leg artery upto his heart, and check out his stents to make sure they aren't going bad, and or any clots. Afterwards, it could come out either good or bad news. With my nephew and him, gosh. But I will be there, while they perform it. Last time it was him dead on the table I think back in 04, and I seen it all, but they revived him. Becomes nerve racking. But it's gonna be a few family members and I.

[pekv2]

I got back from the hospital, very bad news.


This is very difficult. The cardiologists doctor sat my mother and I down, then he sat down. Which is not a good sign in the first place.

My dads heart keeps growing because the muscle cannot any longer keep tight but to expand, so it keep stretching, resulting in lots of bad things, one is congestive heart failure = fluid build up everywhere, the other is bad regulated blood through out the body.

My mom and I were there for the heart angiogram. It's very bad. Room next to the the room that he was in.

Either.

A) A device that will keep him alive for so long.
B) A heart transplant.

My mom is calling all of my family. The above is pretty much as close as I could get it, from what the doc stated.

My mother and I are still in severe shock atm as for my sister too, even though she is far, far away, but it was worse in person.

Just like to let you all to know. My mind is spinning.

This and about my nephew is just devastating. I'm in limbo when idle.

The tears haven't began yet for me.

[AndrewBUD]

Very hard my man..... I wish you and your family the best of luck..... Keep a positive attitude as much as possible...

[pekv2]

Yea, ian85 and SecurityCult from btc-e chat is gonna help me with a fundraiser when ever I can provide proof of health documents of my father after he gets on a donators list.

Think that sounds safe to send out documents like that?

I don't know these guys, if anyone here that is trusted member and can vouch for them, this would help.

Edit:

Note:
I am not doing it in this thread either as stated in OP, and this thread originally is about my nephew and now it's bout both.

[AndrewBUD]

That is still a very nice offer....


I am in the process of getting a second job to help pay for my sons diabetic supplies.. I really need a drug plan..... Even with a drug plan only insulin is covered... all the Testing strips, lancets and Pen Needle tips are not covered and are the most expensive

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Yea, ian85 and SecurityCult from btc-e chat is gonna help me with a fundraiser when ever I can provide proof of health documents of my father after he gets on a donators list.

Think that sounds safe to send out documents like that?

I don't know these guys, if anyone here that is trusted member and can vouch for them, this would help.

Edit:

Note:
I am not doing it in this thread either as stated in OP, and this thread originally is about my nephew and now it's bout both.

In re. your pop, but may apply to nephew.

If, during their end days and are at home under hospice, be mindful of the morphine issue. My dad was sent home two years ago to the day, given about six months (tumor between lungs and heart), therefore he was planning the last fishing trip to Wisconsin. Once home, hospice was put in place and instructed us (siblings) on how to administer the morphine for pain. A Thursday morning, he was up and about, but the nurse had my next older brother give our dad the first dose due to him claiming to be in a little discomfort. Less than an hour later, he could no longer talk. Later that evening, assuming he was in pain and wanted to comfort him some more, the second and last does was administered. He was gone on Friday.

Please do due diligence on this morphine issue, pekv2, and goes the same for anybody else.

~Bruno~

[pekv2]

I suppose, if you can or know someone, you could get a fundraiser started for him. I'll let you know how this works.

Wow, will do, definitely. If never administered, nothing would have happened. That is a new dirty to me. Prob though not to others.

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I get to the hospital, now a defibrillator guy that will be inplanting a defibrillator, says the cardiologist is wrong.

Now we all are confused in to what is going on. meh at its finest.

Something is facted up over at that hospital.

Messing with my pops life here.

[pekv2]

Well, some good news so far, I woke with my nephew here, not to to stay for 3 months but for a few days while my sister is here as well.

Surprised, my pops at the hospital with my sisters and nephews visit, look on his face, is great.

The doctor had implanted the defibrillator today, it's a three wire, higher than usual power for an individual defibrillator with a 5 year battery that can be changed out at any dockers office that has the supplies to do so. The surgery went well. He has him arm slinged tightly against his body for 24hrs, and possibly be out by tomorrow.

My nephew seen me, gave me a huge ass hug, it was very welcoming.

All in all, today is a good day.

[TECSHARE]

For the Autism, check out EEG neurofeedback therapy. There are some videos about it on youtube. It is showing the best results out of anything I have seen so far. It is clearly turning barely functional nonverbal autistic children into regular happy talkative and playful kids.

[pekv2]

Will do. Thanks.

Yeah, he's been here all week, so far, he's been great, they left last night. I have faith he will be alright if he keeps acting like how he did when he was here. No problems at all, he loves call of duty 2 pc game Lol, not bad at it either, I think he plays a lot of console "360" at his house. Pops is sore from the defibrillator, he is recovering well, he will be seeing a doctor tomorrow to get some more info.

[Taz]

Best wishes pevk2,
Hope it works out as best it can.

[pekv2]

Best wishes pevk2,
Hope it works out as best it can.

  me too, me too.